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I'm putting up the cell phone videos of the dyno runs (not very good) and pics of the dyno charts. You may need a hotmail account to access this more than once i'm told.

Yeah I told Bug that if he beat me on the Dyno he would have to ride home.(we trailered there).Haha He brought his jacket and helmet! lol

* Last updated by: Pete on 4/22/2010 @ 10:35 AM *

Make sure you have a proper coolant mixture :)

Thanks Ninja Ray, I added more kaw coolant (about 70% now) to raise the boilover temp. So far no problems. I talked to a kaw dealer and he said to run more water, it would run cooler. I would guess running 2 or 3 degrees cooler wouldn't be as much help as running more coolant an raising the boilover temp 20 or 30 degrees?
I'm learning not to shut it off after riding in slow traffic.

Ive never had the boil over condition but has always run hotter than i thought it should, when i changed exhaust I emptied cooling system and replaced with engine ice. Bike does run cooler now but hard to tell what the determining factor was cause I got rid of the header cat and have a full ti exhaust now. guess i'll know more once we get some 80 degree weather how much these changes helped lol

Yeah I figure changing out my exhaust (getting rid of the heatsink converter) would make mine cooler too. I try not to shut it off after riding in slow traffic if it's +4 bars. Mine has only done it twice in 2200 miles.
Looks like all that rubber sound deadner they put around the head would hold in a lot of heat?

Loadedid say: I'm just under 2k miles on my '09 and already need to change the rear tire...

I'm just about to call you a squid, you do not see how tight that engine in under 2K miles. There is your heat. Ripping that tire down so soon at high speeds, I just hooked the bait. "Simmer down, Johnny." Here comes another parts thrower, I might as well set the hook and yank out the belly, what a fishing hole! Less than 9seconds... he-he-ha-ha, yeah right, it's the crack... Crack me up!

You ever see a bunch of mentally challenged kids all taking a walk with their handlers, and you can't tell who is walking whom? You have a group of chatters like that, discussing heat, then discussing, hea, then forget about the he, and now what was I talking about? That's what I feel like, hearing the newbie with a tight engine, having the manual explain in no uncertain terms, not to exceed said rpm; then make even more heat on the tight bearings, zipping skirts [geeshe's fast] watering up your dash blocks, crying about tire wear.

If anything, loaded, you have a nice tight, long lasting, back off on the throttle so you do not bar it or bar the crap out of it like you have. The bike is way too new! The whoever left the building, the bike is way too new! Save your money whipping a metal fan at it. Ride it. The more you ride it, the looser it becomes, the less heat or the less close friction than is happening now, it has to crush and set. No, it's not the rubber blanket. If anything, it's a helper.

Slap the squid on the deck is like slap the pistons till they seat from banging so tight. The soft bearing inserts compress by the oil pressure and the float of the crank floating over high spots, compress the parts is a slow process. It sure is not tearing it out, or you would score something like metal-rip, right? It compacts, not tears and sheers like that is spinning and about to weld itself up, send itself out the front case. Call that kind of damage vs. lubed, are two metals spinning on each other... For argument sake. Not some crank spitting out parts, but banging high spots down is that friction float break-in the book warns you about, but does not explain it that way as if now get out of that argument I just sucked you into. Tell me you have a problem bike, or need an extra fan.

Press your stomach or any part of your body. Did your finger go through the other side? Did you compact the slap at the forehead? Get it? Cut, slice, dice, the squid thinking right out of you, you got every hubbish word I said.

I worked on CHP cars. Rear ends and transmissions. I could tell by the car's tires and who drove what car, rather than the number on the roof. One set of tires looked like they came off the track at Indy. You gonna hide the forensics, then you better not say much about the bike. I walk that bike, look out! I'll make you team leader of the dash watchers. Put your apron on...

That bucket is LOADED with SQUIDrippings boiling over. Anyone you know? Whatever you do, do not complain to Kawi customer relations. They'll hang up on you in 9seconds, thinking you are on crack [me UP!

I looked at a concours 14 last weekend. I wondered how a touring bike that's meant to be driven slow with our Zx14 motor could keep from overheating. Well I was shocked to see a radiator that looked a lot bigger than mine. Why would kawasaki put a bigger radiator in a bike that has a detuned 14 motor, that surely doesn't make as much heat as our high hp 14? (Even if it were new with all those tight tolerances and clearances that older bikes don't have ;-)
So I looked at the motor side of the radiator saw TWO fans!. Hmmm I'd have to guess these detuned motors must make more heat or kawasaki wouldn't put extra fans an bigger radiators on em?

The Concours notoriously runs hot.Hotter than ours...that's for sure.Never had mine boil over either.Had er up to the "hot" range almost every ride while sitting in traffic.Cools down fine after moving a bit.2,000 miles-not broke in yet me thinks.It's hard for me to visualize the coolant blowing out of the reservoir.HOW does that happen.There's plenty of room for overflow.I have heard of this happening though on a few 14's-on this forum.Maybe start over and replace your coolant,and mix per the Kawi manual?Perhaps a couple ounces of water wetter in there as well.Hope you get it sorted out.I'm moving when I get to my house,and I go straight into the garage,no sitting there idling...at least not for long.Fan will often come on before I shut er down though.But she's never boiled over.

Well I hate the idea that my bike's coolant temp must be spiking to its boiling point, which isn't a good thing. But the last (2nd ) time it did it, I lost over a quart. That leaves the rad to low to ride to get more coolant.
My brother an I took our bikes to the Daytona bike week a couple years back. He had a 954 Honda and I was on my Busa. They got hot enough in traffic that his wouldn't crank with the starter. I had to push him off in front of the worlds largest Harley dealer! And my busa was making a lot of new engine noises.

Pete, This whole boil over thing is crazy to me. I ride mine in the Arizona heat sometimes up to 112 deg. temps and some times wait at long lights, I have never even spit out a drop of coolant. Hub might have some thing there, are you whipping the shit out of a new motor, If not I suspect its your cap. I hope you broke it in per the manual!

* Last updated by: buck20 on 5/17/2010 @ 6:28 AM *

I broke it in by varing the rpm's up to 4-5k. 99% of my riding is under 4k. It hardley ever gets over 4 bars while riding. It has only boiled over twice. It's after a slow ride in town, letting the engine get soaked with heat then shutting it off. The temp rises to the point of spewing. Riding fast or above 50mph will keep the motor cooler least by the temp gauge. (about 3 bars). I ride with my brother on his 07 zx-14 and our temp gauges show the same.(his has never spewed)
I just worry about getting stuck in heavy traffic on a hot day and having to call for a ride to the parts house for some antifreeze after i shut it off. Not to mention what the heat does to your motor & oil.
I've got 2200 miles on it now, Maybe like Hub says, it will loosen up enough it might not do it again. But if it does, I'll check with the dealer again. I have rode it on 400 mile trips with no problems..