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Thread: help me, short of the throttle at 4000 rpm

Created on: 09/14/13 04:11 AM

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tungcb1



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help me, short of the throttle at 4000 rpm
09/14/13 4:11 AM

Thank you everyone! I did find out the cause. It's broken throttle sensor 3187A. I do not see for sale on eBay. Hope you find me! The black

videoclip :http://youtu.be/l88ev08S8BU

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Hub


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RE: help me, short of the throttle at 4000 rpm
09/14/13 6:24 AM

No codes, no sensor needs to be moved. If you move a sensor, it codes, see how the sensor is good? You move it back within its own position and the code goes out? That says there are no sensors that are giving you a problem.

Is the throttle cable opening the plates far enough open? How about hygiene to the air cleaner? What is compression? Get that out of the way is a compression check. I want a compression test number(s) or chase your tail and not me.

Air cleaner and compression check.



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RE: help me, short of the throttle at 4000 rpm
09/14/13 7:12 AM

I've been cleaning air filters, nozzles, it looks like it has a few problems in the sensor. but tune in a position offset from the position error Fi, I do not understand the principles of their operation like? we can remove the toilet is not? and self-adjust the sensor 2 is not it? thank you!

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RE: help me, short of the throttle at 4000 rpm
09/14/13 11:01 AM

When there is a code, it acts like the same thing almost. So it will still rev, but not with all horsepower available.

Look at the throttle cable bell crank on the left side of the bike. That should show you if your cables are pulling all the plates open?

So air cleaner is what? Clean or clogged? Pull the air cleaner out, start the bike. Make sure nothing gets sucked in, you are going to try this for a second or less is to rev the engine up.

Where are the compression numbers? You do not bring those forward... You are on your own!



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tungcb1



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RE: help me, short of the throttle at 4000 rpm
09/14/13 5:28 PM

I removed the air filter out, the result is still the same, the gap Ga to be enemies, looked left and saw the gas line winds are not open. I will record a video for you to see.

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RE: help me, short of the throttle at 4000 rpm
09/14/13 5:36 PM


This division affects the operation does not? It was broken and I had reconnected wires.

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RE: help me, short of the throttle at 4000 rpm
09/14/13 6:08 PM

That is the sub-throttle actuator.



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tungcb1



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RE: help me, short of the throttle at 4000 rpm
09/14/13 9:09 PM

This phenomenon I have not found a solution. Around me there is no auto mechanic zx14r. a huge motorcycle enthusiast's me!
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RE: help me, short of the throttle at 4000 rpm
09/14/13 9:13 PM

http://youtu.be/l88ev08S8BU


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tungcb1



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RE: help me, short of the throttle at 4000 rpm
09/15/13 12:34 AM


If I remove this, the motor has to work well? because I see the wind itself makes no weak enough to make the machine.

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RE: help me, short of the throttle at 4000 rpm
09/15/13 1:08 AM

Yes.



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tungcb1



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RE: help me, short of the throttle at 4000 rpm
09/15/13 2:08 AM

thanhks hagres

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tungcb1



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RE: help me, short of the throttle at 4000 rpm
09/15/13 8:08 AM

B?n d?ch
I took off the throttle burst results are still the same! bored. I have to do now. please help me!

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RE: help me, short of the throttle at 4000 rpm
09/15/13 9:01 AM

Fuel pump and filter.



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RE: help me, short of the throttle at 4000 rpm
09/15/13 10:07 AM

Check your cylinder compression like hub said. After you have done that then move on to the fuel and spark.



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RE: help me, short of the throttle at 4000 rpm
09/15/13 10:09 AM

The fuel pump should pump out 67mL of fuel in 3 seconds.



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RE: help me, short of the throttle at 4000 rpm
09/16/13 12:18 AM

Thank you everyone! I did find out the cause. It's broken throttle sensor 3187A. I do not see for sale on eBay. Hope you find me! The black

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RE: help me, short of the throttle at 4000 rpm
09/16/13 5:09 AM

Your are not likely to find one because that sensor was calibrated as the factory for that throttle body. You will need a whole new throttle body assembly.
Unless you can find a used sensor.



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RE: help me, short of the throttle at 4000 rpm
09/16/13 11:31 AM

tung, did you see how the bike revved up, no code? Then you moved the sensor to code it, then ran bad. Look, the bike is fine compression wise. Without that video and some noise, it sounds like you induced the bike to run bad.

Do not mess with any sensors if the dash does not blink a code FI, right? Make sense? You are going all squid touching everything in sight. That's how you look like you do LOL!

Now, turn the key on, move that sensor back each little bit so you wait a few seconds, the FI goes out. Listen one more time. Key on and do not turn off. Move sensor ever so slight and count off 15 seconds real slow. Then move the sensor again ever so much and wait out the time. Once that goes out, she is set like factory.

You ever so slight again, she FI's again. If you say you need a sensor and now you moved it back and the light did not go out? See how much you do not want to move that sensor again once FI goes out? And you tighten up the sensor, the light comes on again? Move it ever so much again till you can button down that 'anti tamper bolt' or seal it like you did the actuator with that silicone.



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tungcb1



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RE: help me, short of the throttle at 4000 rpm
09/17/13 1:45 AM

I have removed the sensor from a car that concours14 2008. installed on my car and it works perfectly! not like the situation any more? help me fix my son's sensor. thanks

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tungcb1



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RE: help me, short of the throttle at 4000 rpm
09/17/13 5:30 AM

hup :This phenomenon occurs when my car Fi error, and when I unplug the sensor that when it was inserted in pu error and position error correction offset Fi car anymore. But the car still short of speed range 4000j

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tungcb1



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RE: help me, short of the throttle at 4000 rpm
09/17/13 9:00 AM

this can be fitted into the car I was not zx14r?
http://item.mobileweb.ebay.com/viewitem?sbk=1&nav=SEARCH&itemId=280991313597

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RE: help me, short of the throttle at 4000 rpm
09/17/13 10:25 AM

What is the voltage at the battery? Watt is the output when running?

My battery should have a static 12.6v ~ 12.8v is ideal.
My charging system at idle should read 14.1v and if I rev the engine I should see about 14.3v.

I own a fuel injected engine. If no codes are present with the 14 (that I know of somewhat) there is no problem.
I neglect the air cleaner, this will effect the running of 'bulletproof.'
I need over 12v of current to make the bike perform so it has the ability to rev out. What do my battery posts look like? I live in a damp area so my enemy is air against the lead posts I make electricity move out of a storage unit (battery).



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