First of all, thanks Nels! Without you, none of this could have ever been possible.

We approached everything we are doing from a logic point of view, it started with an Ecu flash. It has grown into something so much more.

We have data logged and confirmed every aspect of the Cblast flash. We challenged ourselves to take it further than it has ever been taken. The results speak for themselves. We have no problem with video or pictures in the dyno room. We have the sheets from pulls absolutely showing exact AFR in the dyno room and minutes later logged runs to WOT at 200 mph in the real world with data files showing identical AFR with consistent 0.0 trim values necessary. The trim values suggested using the latest most state of the art data logging tech available are so minute as to be the difference between morning coffee and evening scotch. When tuning using any previous conventional methods trim values are adjusted down to blocks of 5%. This data logging and tuning with its application correctly has allowed absolute confirmation of tune down to a level of .1% This is unheard of accuracy translating to superlative smoothness under all load conditions.

I want to help convey what is going on here in a logical and helpful fashion. The Cblast flash that Nels and I have worked tirelessly to perfect is providing the maximum potential of the machine. No piggyback or powercommander of any kind is necessary to access the absolute pinnacle of performance. This year it has proven itself at the circuit track where absolute smoothness and quality power is crucial. it has proven itself at the dragstrip where big power and torque and the ability to lay it down are the keys to success. It has proven itself at a groundbreaking top speed event. It proves itself on the street every single day in the hands of some of the finest riders I have ever had the privilege of riding with and calling friend!

Fact: This flash is capable of 9.0 1/4 mile times at 155mph on a SWB 14R
Fact: This flash makes over 100 ft. lbs. of torque from 5300 rpm to 11000 rpm. That is a MASSIVE powerband.
Fact: This flash makes 118+ ft. lbs. of peak Torque
Fact: This flash makes over 202hp
Fact: This flash is capable of 208MPH and 14 runs over 200mph in the real world in a single day.

Fact: If the map in the ECU is smoothed by a FACTOR of 9 (!!!!), and so precise that wideband data suggests 0.0 trim adjustments... Then Nels and I developed your flash.

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207.7 MPH

That first linked video is THE fastest trip from 1st gear to the top of 5th that we have ever recorded. Over 8000 trips to redline, 26000+ miles of unadulterated performance development with Priscilla, literally hundreds of pulls on the dyno. Many many hours of data logged on the street and at the track. Performance tuning at the absolute highest level. The product and the results speak for themselves.
After our last session of tuning and testing, I had the honor of Nels taking Priscilla for a little ride. Seeing you hit that 3rd gear, 90-100 mile an hour power wheelie and then evaporate into the distance was AWESOME. After the ride and talking, hearing your feedback, well, that's been some of the greatest joys of tuning! Sharing it with a true friend and comrade in always seeking perfection in performance. Priscilla is an absolute monster, that's the finest most refined level of massive power and torque I have ever ridden. Perfection. The awesome thing about all the work and the hours that we have put in, anyone that wants the same thing, wants that level of refined fury, wants that dyno sheet to be theirs, can actually have it. Right now. That's just cool.
Thanks to all that have been a part of the Cblasted family this past year, and thanks again to Nels for helping me bring forth this level of tuning performance and teaching me so much. Your friendship and partnership with motorcycles and tuning has been some of the finest times of my life brother! Here's to a higher level of performance for every rider!

* Last updated by: Cblast on 10/12/2014 @ 3:58 PM *

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Cblast, I'm not trying to kill or steal your thunder, but has your flash gone head to head with other flashes? Where is yours if there was a pc mapped to it? Those slips show a 10mph difference. Granted, one was pigged to run 165 and in the under 8.5 ET.

If you took the pc off that bike, where would the flash maps land? Any data? Just curious.

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Where is yours if there was a pc mapped to it? Those slips show a 10mph difference. Granted, one was pigged to run 165 and in the under 8.5 ET.

Nope, those slips do not show a 10mph difference. you are again trying to compare a stretched vs. a SWB bike. But you knew that. As to where it would be with a pig hooked to it, it would be less. That's where.
The fuel mapping is showing trim adjustments of .0 and .1 that means the mapping is flawless. No need for a piggyback. And as for going head to head against other flashes, all the customers that have had us flash over a guhl, or brocks, or Ivan's flash have been 100% satisfied. Piggybacks aren't necessary. And there isn't a single piggyback out there that can provide the finite adjustments and seemless creamy power that a real time data logged, proven flash can produce. The quality of the power is better. The maps are cleaner. Suggested and adjusted trim levels down to a tenth of a percent. Smoothing by a factor of 9.

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Again, C, there is somewhat of a challenge to your flash lately and its performance factor. The numbers look great, but how does that compute in the real 1320 world? See what I'm trying to get at, is if you do not need the flash as you say, then a pig would show it broke even is how I see it.

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Great Pics C....I for one LOVE my flashed bike....you're doing most excellent;)

Not to change this topic...but I have a question here.With EVERY flash I've tried...there is ONE teensy spot that happens.IDK if it's normal,or what.It happens shifting into second with normal clutching and mild throttle application.There is a split second where the engine feels(and sounds)like it's misfiring.Only when adding throttle mildly at the very first move after clutching.IF I add throttle more aggressively,it isn't there.It's so quick when it occurs...probably most would say...'it's nothing...ride yer bike'.But it does this EVERY time I take off as I described,switching from 1st to 2nd.Mildly accelerating.Doesn't do this in any other gears or gear changes regardless of throttle app.For the life of me...IDK WHAT it is.It feels like a tiny stumble...but it doesn't 'persist'.And as far as I can tell...it feels like it may be in just ONE total revolution of the firing order.That's about how quick it is.Almost like the power shuts off to the motor.

I have NOT noticed it with a stock ECU.I should try that and see if it happens with that....

* Last updated by: Grn14 on 10/12/2014 @ 8:03 PM *

Again, C, there is somewhat of a challenge to your flash lately and its performance factor. The numbers look great, but how does that compute in the real 1320 world? See what I'm trying to get at, is if you do not need the flash as you say, then a pig would show it broke even is how I see it.

What challenge? Where? From whom? You haven't ridden it. You have zero frame of reference. As to how it handles the 1320, see Mavs timeslips. And as to me saying you don't need a flash, where did I say that?? I said ya do. Done right. And a pig can't show breakin even, a pig is just a pig. We don't use them on the 14R because we can adjust fueling in the ecu mapping WAYY more efficiently without it. Then we data logged our adjustments in the real world. Real time. Then we checked them against the dyno. AFR from the dyno showing the same results as the AFR from our logged data. Afr ratios adjusted and confirmed. Real world and dyno room with no room for equivocation. We never used a pig for a single thing, it wasn't useful nor necessary. You can ask the same questions as many ways as you like. But the facts don't change. Ass dynos and ten differnt afr meters spliced into your bike can't provide the results given by producing a flash properly on a dyno and verified with data logged via wideband sensor. Pigs don't help. They get in the way.

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What challenge? Where? From whom? You haven't ridden it. You have zero frame of reference.

True. I have not ridden your flash. The challenge is lets pick one. Don's vs. Neils is the straight up flash for flash challenge.

As to how it handles the 1320, see Mavs timeslips.

I rather use Smoke's ET and mph. Mav may have broken into the 8's, but we are talking under 8.5 seconds. And that is flash for flash minus one pig to see if really, Don can clip the faster time/mph.

And a pig can't show breakin even, a pig is just a pig.

That was more like a pig is just a pig if we break even. Technically, we use the same pig-maps, yours should outperform the other flash, true or false? That's more or less it does or we break even, 'you can't get any more out of your flash' was the concept if we used a pig.

We don't use them on the 14R because we can adjust fueling in the ecu mapping WAYY more efficiently without it.

Without the accel maps, you need to convince me an accel is not efficient and the flash takes care of that... True or false you did not match the map for the accel change and vice verse.

Then we data logged our adjustments in the real world. Real time. Then we checked them against the dyno. AFR from the dyno showing the same results as the AFR from our logged data.

I would think so is data in is data out.

We never used a pig for a single thing, it wasn't useful nor necessary. You can ask the same questions as many ways as you like. But the facts don't change.

Please explain how the bike has 10mph on the bike and 1/2 a second difference nothing else is necessary. And believe me, C, that's huge in the 1320 world.

Ass dynos and ten differnt afr meters spliced into your bike can't provide the results given by producing a flash properly on a dyno and verified with data logged via wideband sensor.

That is true, you cannot see the grid line from 0 to 100 and all that.

Pigs don't help. They get in the way.

What I'm acting as, C, is JoeA squid that is going to hear this 'happy hype' of customers asspeaking and no real results you go up against a pc/flash. Here is JoeA heading out to the races as if to think the flash is all that is needed. Here comes the local kid like "The Hand" handing the trophy and purse money to the flashing pig bike. JoeA came up one map short.

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Your theories are just theories hub. As I said in the past. I don't know whom told you a fairy tale about the accel pump feature. But it does absolutely nothing to ADD to your tune or to your power. It dumps in a percentage of fuel extra based upon throttle input. If your machine is tuned correctly, it doesn't need fuel dumped in 'extra'. That's a bullshit bandaid for a condition I don't have. We tuned her right from bottom to top. The accel pump feature was okay if your gen I busa that has an off idle stumble. Does absolutely ZERO on any power chart or in the real world to improve performance if your machine is tuned correctly. And you of all people should understand what a stretched swingarm does for launch, which then translates to et and trap speed. This separate categories for stretched and non stretched bikes. Comparing the numbers on two completely different chassis setups, then trying to attribute it to the tune isn't valid, it's just self serving and misleading to those actually seeking knowledge.

* Last updated by: Cblast on 10/12/2014 @ 10:57 PM *

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a stretched swingarm does for launch, which then translates to et and trap speed. This separate categories for stretched and non stretched bikes.

OK, we have that out of the way. Again, stretch for stretch, arm for stock arm, who brings the numbers?

Comparing the numbers on two completely different chassis setups, then trying to attribute it to the tune isn't valid, it's just self serving and misleading to those actually seeking knowledge.

I figure with an average rider on the good flash and the better rider on the 2nd flash, someone has to come in second, where are the numbers so we are no misled flash for flash arm for arm.

I know it's going to take a while to sink in as to what I am asking. It's very simple. In the ET and MPH of it, who clocks the other? Where are your numbers and now where are the second flashed numbers? Like I said, one or 2 miles and a few hundreds to a few tenth is a stock arm vs stretch and that is a guess. But here we are talking a 1/2 a second and 10mph and I'm saying that's pig also. Is it that huge @ 10 mph? How much HP is that preset putting out? Book is 120tq and this shows 118. So the preset is still 2 pounds to go.

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Mav got into the 8s and it wasn't with your flash . Case in point I know of one ZX14r at stock wheel base with no ECU flash that runs 8.80 @ 159 .. Two more that run 8.70s with a Guhl flash and Brocks tune at stock wheel base , one more that ran 8.60s .. As far as top speed Shanes bike was faster same day same track .. So what did you Prove ?
I'm really at a loss here with all this chest pumping and post after post from Cblast about a flash that has set no records and broken no records ..I'd still like to try it and see if I can break my record but that got shot down by Cblast ..

* Last updated by: Smokinzx14 on 10/13/2014 @ 8:58 AM *

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Hey Smoking and Hub, once you both stop thumb sucking and refer to the charts and video's posted then you can sling arrows. You both make me laugh.

No offense but where are your dyno sheeys and videos? "Crickets"... that's right. C has presented some quantifiable evidence, meanwhile back at the ranch all I read is "whaa whaa whaa!"

PS Hubs my 10 over arm is matched with Penski shock valved to my weight. If I launched a stock 14r and my stretch and I raced myself on the stock length. Simple physics says the stretched me is drinking victory beers.

Have a great day, I'll let u both get back to....

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Mav got into the 8s and it wasn't with your flash.

C, with all due respect, I thought Mav got into the 8's with your flash. This is a total surprise I did not know and here are my instincts showing. Now I have to assume Mav did try your flash and Smoke seems to be saying Mav tried it? So Mav is up to answer more of my instincts of how the C-flash seems like you have some pony [reading the charts, Wolfy] but why is it not happening?

Case in point I know of one ZX14r at stock wheel base with no ECU flash that runs 8.80 @ 159 ..

Come on C, look at that sentence right there. My halfassed flash feels like a creamy hack in the shorts, but once I go back to the OE, man, that is like you can feel the power is upstairs waiting.

Two more that run 8.70s with a Guhl flash and Brocks tune at stock wheel base , one more that ran 8.60s

See the 10th's of a jump, but not 10mph and 1/2 that second chomped off? More instinct I took a guess at that 10th.

.. As far as top speed Shanes bike was faster same day same track .. So what did you Prove ?

Wait... Was there another bike the same day with a Cflash?

I'm really at a loss here with all this chest pumping and post after post from Cblast about a flash that has set no records and broken no records

Well, when I see the elixir wagons pull thru like a $50 hit over the phone, I have my instincts pop up. I think I'M HAVING ONE.

..I'd still like to try it and see if I can break my record but that got shot down by Cblast ..

C, watt are you waiting for? Comp the Hand with a burn. Lets end this. If you are bringing on a performance flash, then you can at least comp one ECU for testing and I'm sure the price of racing is way more than the price of a flash... Look at all the return from the comp. That's how it works.

This is a perfect meet and greet the WATT slap of "The Hand.' Plug and Play.

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Ok I have a couple of quesions I'm hoping I can get a civil answer to from Cblast. With your flash did you ever find the fuel cut that both Don and Ivan says IS there? secondly, you say you have the flies fully open at 2400rpm? Can we agree that the Don/Brock flash caters to the drag racers/LSr guy but just happens to work great on the stree too? I'd like to know how you got the flies to open 800 rpm sooner than they did.

Again, CIVIL please or jut ignore the question.

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Hey toledo, as to the injector cut off question. Certain machines like the current ZX-10R, kill power to the injectors on closed throttle. This causes a 'back on throttle' jerkiness. This is fixed inside a flash by checkin a box in the programming to stop the injectors from killing power in 0% throttle situations. The zx-14R does not do this. It simply doesn't. If it did I would fix it and be absolutely willing to show how it's done. But the 14R does not kill power to its injectors in 0% throttle situations. That's a fact. I hope that answers your question and I truly am not trying to be curt. It's difficult to prove a negative.
Now as to secondary throttle plates. Within the woolich software, the secondsry throttle plate map is represented as a matrix of numbers that equate to actual percentages of opening. How we got them to open earlier is simply by selecting the portion of the map above the desired rpm range and adjust the numbers to represent fully opened 100% throttle plates. Then beneath that desired range we extrapolate the numbers to represent a smooth opening of those plates to the fully opened or 100% point. Very easily done actually sir. That STP map is then saved and used as a part of the total flash. Along with fuel unification and gear map unification and a host of other small but important parts that make up the total performance of the machine once done sir.

I hope that answers your questions!

* Last updated by: Cblast on 10/13/2014 @ 2:36 PM *

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This is what the matrix walls of numbers look like.

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Wolfman my dyno charts are on Brocks site , the numbers and records are in my sig and videos on youtube ..

Cblast called me today and he is willing as I am to put his flash to the test !!! This makes me very happy !!! The testing will take place over this fall and winter ( spring if necessary ) .. I'm willing to spend as much time as it takes and as many trips to the track to get the Best data possible for you guys as well as Cblast .. I'll be shipping out a ECU to Cblast this week ...We both agreed to post the info ( good or Bad ) here for all to read ..He feels very strongly in his flash and is not worried about the outcome ..I'm hoping to see that 8.30s time slip that have been chasing for over two years ..

Stay tuned ........................ :)

* Last updated by: Smokinzx14 on 10/13/2014 @ 2:51 PM *

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You might need a wheelie bar Smokin!

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I can only tell you the improvement it made for me ! but you all know that already !

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CBlast thank you for the answer.

Cblast called me today and he is willing as I am to put his flash to the test !!! This makes me very happy !!! The testing will take place over this fall and winter ( spring if necessary ) .. I'm willing to spend as much time as it takes and as many trips to the track to get the Best data possible for you guys as well as Cblast .. I'll be shipping out a ECU to Cblast this week ...We both agreed to post the info ( good or Bad ) here for all to read ..He feels very strongly in his flash and is not worried about the outcome ..I'm hoping to see that 8.30s time slip that have been chasing for over two years ..

Stay tuned ........................ :)

Now we're talking.

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Lee the whole "chest pump, yadda yadda" reinforces my belief that you don't know C. I've never heard an arrogant line from him. He got involved with this forum to assist, share findings and educate. He is the CEO of Predator Racing! It's called "predator" for a reason. I've always interpreted his blunt and factual approach as refreshing. Not rib cage thumping just no BS glaring in the eyes approach. But whatever...

No need to keep me posted, I know what I'm running. Others can bow for verification from you, but as the alpha in the pack I'm not interested.

No disrespect or arrogance, just being blunt and a predatorial animal.

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Wolfman thanks , have a great day ..:)

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'a predatorial animal'. Yo Wolf my bro....you did get yer shots,yes?;)Just funnin...hope ya know that.

Hey Lee....you aint got no 'henbane' growing down thar do ya?LOL!!!...watch that full moon!...;)

Truly THIS has become the Classic Drama...TWO power masters rattling the sabre...two agreeing...and the right hand man standing forever at the side of his Lord.persisting.Taunting.Vowing......this is good.The gauntlet has been accepted.The Test is at hand.The winner isn't in HP or times.It's in the hearts of these fearless 14 warriors.THAT's the REAL story.As it always has been...down through time.Continue brave victors....this story is YOURS!Ride safely Lee...with all your heart...bring to pass the destiny of you all.It's now in YOUR hands...the completion of your destinies at this time in eternity!

* Last updated by: Grn14 on 10/13/2014 @ 11:05 PM *

Awesome guys! Glad to hear you came together, for the betterment of all. Good or bad, each will come away with some knowledge of where they stand.

I'm really looking forward to the results. I could be tempted to switch my setup, if it really is an improvement. I stayed with the Brocks package in case something wasn't "up to par" after my exhaust and tune. I simply wanted to be able to go back to them with confidence that I had followed their recommendations and didn't want one part of the equation to be to blame. But now I'm willing to try something else.