What are your thoughts about these topics?
1. Trump relieving decorated soldier and Purple Heart recipient Col Vindman and his brother from their posts at the NSC
2. Trump making Jessie Liu a US Attorney and nominating her for a post at the Treasury Department, then pulling her nomination this week, apparently miffed because she did her job.
3. Tweeting that Roger Stone's sentence was too harsh and threatening a pardon, after which Barr rescinded the sentence causing 4 US goverment Attorneys to resign.
I know the right in this country like to crow about supporting our military and the Rule of Law.
I'd like to understand your position on these things.

Mad

This guy wants to lecture others about the law and patriotism. They work at his discretion and pleasure, would have thought that maybe thats clear by now. Do you honestly think Stone deserves 9 years while the dems are getting off Scott free on so much proven grifting? But don't worry, things are about to change after the presidents second term starts and he can really go to town cleaning up the flagrant corruption that is the liberal party. C'mon friend Dont be such a hypocrite. Thats lt. Colonel by the way. What do you think about the current state of the demo party? Im curious. Who ya a votin for come super Tuesday and why? Answered yours now answer mine. By the way he broke no law whatsoever so dont know what you mean by that. Guess you missed where he went to Dover afb when the coffins of our dead soldiers arrived the other day. Probably didnt have that on cnn. You guys are something else lol. Look on the good side, your gonna have a bonofied communist as your candidate, good luck with that comrade!

* Last updated by: Backinblack on 2/12/2020 @ 8:37 PM *

"I know the right in this country like to crow about supporting our military and the Rule of Law"...it's NOT a 'Right' thing.Geez.It's the right thing to do.You don't think being top military dog in this world is important?You're saying that money could be spent 'on us' or something?There won't BE an 'us' if we fail to maintain superiority over the world.Bet on that.You won't be able to criticize any of that when they're linin ya up against the wall.But I guess you've forgotten the past already.You scoff an say 'that can't happen today'...that's what Jews and Germans said in the 30's.
Just vote for more wack job Democratic Socialist and prepare.They won't be sparing any critics.They'd be doin it right now if they could.

"Trump relieving decorated soldier and Purple Heart recipient Col Vindman and his brother from their posts at the NSC"...tell ya this.YOU gotta quit thinkin ya know all the answers.You're a kid.So I get it.But try and look beyond the tunnel vision of you friends and such.He knows something's up with these two.And he aint about to keep em around with sensitive info goin back and forth all the time.You don't think he does,but he DOES know what he's doing.YOU my young friend know ZERO about what's going on in Washinton and the Admin.Virtually NO ONE does.The inner circle for protecting this nation IS an inner circle.They don't blab everything being done.

"apparently miffed because she did her job"...and just how do you assume this?Cause he changed his mind?Can't you change your mind without being angry?God I hope so.He KNOWS when someone's able to do a job.And it isn't always right up front that someone CAN'T do it correctly.She obviously can't.He's not playin with American lives.

"Tweeting that Roger Stone's sentence was too harsh and threatening a pardon, after which Barr rescinded the sentence causing 4 US goverment Attorneys to resign".He for one DIDN'T cause ANYONE to resign.So let's get that straight.No more than you neighbor MADE you move.He's not God.He doesn't make people do anything.
Secondly.What do you know about Stone?Maybe you could enlighten me on what he's done.

And I hope you're getting some good rides in Mad.I'm still waiting for the ice to clear!

* Last updated by: Grn14 on 2/12/2020 @ 8:48 PM *

1. Only what I heard on the news. Seems Vindman was at that post since the shovel ready days. And what I heard was a job at that country once he leaves the service. So my guess is he had an interest in his future job and well, bias.
2. Again, where Jessie Liu did not get deeply involved with these high profile cases so she saw the writing on the wall and she stepped down before the fan hit the shit for some new job she was nominated for. A job slacker IMO. Not what donny wants around him. I get it.
3.I want to hear the other side, where Stone had to do what he did. Tied up on a sham trial anyway, but 9 years lying and whatever else he did, no one landed in the hospital, or died. Manslaughter has less time, so I see 4 judges taking it out on donny. Then they reversed the next day was it? So they look deep state and am glad they bowed out.

JMO

B in B you have definitely sniffed too many fumes you are brain dead, Get back on the porch. Hub I guess lying and cheating is the only way you made it through life. Grn 14 you are in never never land, get back in the silver mine and stay there till we call you.

If no one believes in the dumbing down of America, just read anything big red posts. His name must be a reflection of the party he blindly follows. For christs sake man, leave the plantation and seek enlightenment before its too late.

So, I tried to ask a question respectfully to you guys and, once again, here come the personal attacks. That is exactly why talking with some of you is a complete waste of time. Every time you are challenged you reply with" Yeah BUT..." and " Answer MY qustions!"
None of you know me. And that's best for me.
I've had a disagreement with a couple guys here but they can actually act like adults and avoid the childish bullshit too many of you like to pull. ( Thank you Yannih)
I kind of expected this kind of response. I'm disappointed that you proved me right.

Mad

Big, I'm going to come up with a same-same scenario and see if there is a difference or it's no big thing.

Biden and son go to some corrupt country. Now, insert Trump and son. So basically, the prez and son go to Ukraine, gets his son a high paying job. Since nothing came of this with the biden family, does donny and son get a pass too?

Let's see how corrupt you think.

If you're phishing for some sort of 'response'...then asking questions geared to get that is not genuine.Hub's got more common sense in his toenail than you guys criticizing answers.At least be open enough to read something you might not agree with,or like.It's okay.You're not gonna melt away.
Some of you make it sound like Trump's said things and done things ya'll would never think of doing.THAT's total BS.No one's above the law lol.Except nan of course,and schiff.

* Last updated by: Grn14 on 2/13/2020 @ 12:57 PM *

Here is how distorted the info is. Donny says sanders got married in russia. Then someone corrected him and said they honeymooned there. Now I watched a clip where sanders said he went over there for some cause and said the info is wrong. So for me to get involved on any political subject, who are you going to believe if both sources couldn't get right? You parrot the traffic of the media and you're facts are wrong, basically. Seems now donny is not what they say he is. It's all lies.

That's why I question the events and stand on the centerline and watch what both sides have to say. If mayor pete has a platform, I don't care if I see the 'first gentleman' as our president's partner? That's the upside.

The downside is me standing in line with the other flock of comedian wannabe's, trying to get in the comedy store with a steamer trunk full of jokes to try. I'd bring Cody and it's all over.

I'm always circling around here to see whats going on so here's my opinion and two cents worth.

Of course Mad is correct.
All here have their points of view and we are all old and ugly enough to know we will never change the next guys minds on religion, politics and gun laws.
Go hard on points and rebuttals but leave the personal stuff out of it.
And before you come back hard at me, yes I know I am as guilty as anyone else on this forum of getting negatively personal with guys here that I respect such as Hub, Mad, Green and Kofla. I don't agree with some of their views and I will always say so and why, but I need to work harder at leaving the personal stuff out.
After all, we all ride 14's and thats a pretty strong common bond!

Avenatti.
Unfortunately it doesn't always happen but sometimes the stars align and people get exactly what they deserve.
With a guilty verdict in the first case against him and more allegations still to be heard, Avanatti can now start getting use to the jail cell back door shuffle. All he has going for him now is that he is so slimy it just might assist the process somewhat!
However don't worry too much Michael. As it is well known you are used to a certain level of luxury from the millions of dollars defrauded from your clients, there will be male maids making up your room daily for you.
By hosing it out!
And all those media commentators who backed him as the next great thing such as The View and Brian Stelter would now be feeling mighty embarrassed.
But I doubt they'll be acknowledging their mistake anytime soon...

Next, I just didn't know all you Trump supporters out there were all red neck rubes and uneducated simpletons who can't read, use a map to find a country or spell.
I mean it must be true.
Don Lemon told me so!
And he would never be bias or act with the height of hypocrisy with his presented points of view right?

Lastly, the Golden Globes, The Emmys and The Oscars are now just a platform for the rich and famous to get up and preach their unwanted political and woke opinions to a dwindling global viewer base.
Relevant to this, I use to like Ricky Gervais but after the Golden Globes I fucking love him!!!
He smashed all those elitists sitting in that room so hard they weren't even aware it was happening.

"If you do win an award tonight, don't use it as a platform to make a political speech right. You're in no position to lecture the public about anything. You know nothing about the real world."
and
"So if you win right, accept your little award, thank your agent and your God, and fuck off!"

And they were so ignorant and unaware they laughed, cheered and clapped!
The great thing is after Gervais's bravery and brilliance, every time an elitist got up and took the stage to spout their personal dribble, it had far less meaning than ever before and they just looked foolish.
People are just sick to death of messages being dispersed in this manner from those who have zero comprehension of the real world, and hopefully the producers of these types of programs realise the only way to regain viewers is to limit acceptance speeches to a very short timeframe and also ban political and woke statements and opinions.
But I won't hold my breath...

Wow, got carried away there.
Got started and couldn't stop.
Sorry about that.

What was I talking about?
Oh yeah.
Lets just go easy on the personal stuff against each other here...

* Last updated by: yannih on 2/15/2020 @ 12:15 AM *

Mad, I'm curious what you think about, and I'm just saying a what-if... what if you owned ocean front property, the rain is about to fall come March time, you have floating human excrement washing up on your beach. A bare foot drops into the sand, you step on a squish and you can see a corn kernel between your toes lodged in this brown... who's fault is this? Can you narrow down if it's the free society and this is what you have to live with, or the representatives of a party in power? Something else you might think of?

Would still living in this environment be healthy, let alone the property beginning to be roped off because of the trash, needles, feces washing up on shore? Ever take a trip out to Catalina from a boat? Ever see the beach water being so filthy until you are a few hundred yards out and it clears up? It kind of hangs off the beach in other words. You'd be swimming in it for those few yards out.

Surfers have a lot of ear problems due to so much debris mixed out in that muck. I pee dick March Mud due to corn is going to reset the vote in your state. If not...

Hub,
I'm sorry , but what the fuck are you talking about? Are you saying that only brown people do drugs or litter? Are you saying that if everyone supported Trump the environment would be clean and pristine? I'm really confused.

Mad

I believe he is saying that democratic controlled cities are shitholes with crap/needles/trash and urine lining the streets and that the folks in those cities are fed up with liberal leadership. Its getting worse every day. Whom would you say is responsible for all this degradation in these cities? And these politicians want the country to believe they can clean things up, give us a green new deal. They cant/wont take care of the people that have voted them in time after time. whats pitiful is that some folks are so brainwashed/stupid that they see right past the shitty streets, still holding on to hope that they will get something free. What selfishness would lead to someone believing what they are promised as opposed to what is plain as day to their eyes and noses? I guess its a good for me you cant call me a racist, ya got no leverage there lol. From what I see republican led parts of the countryside dont have the same shame as those led by the he left. Emotional knee jerk reactions get you nowhere mad.

* Last updated by: Backinblack on 2/16/2020 @ 1:56 PM *

^^^^^ 1+

The only colors I brought up were the yellow corn and brown shit. I pretty much rhetorically asked if non-drugged, non-color denomination feces landed up on your beach front property, who would be the blame for this... a free society, or a political entity in charge of a city/state... BnB understood the question... how come you couldn't put it together the same, obvious way?

You're not trying to skirt the question are you? Just curious is all. And the next one would be; the free get out of jail card and the potential rise of the same crimes from the same [freed] perps... turnstile justice they call it. Who signed off on this and do you agree to keep that society free of crime or are you playing the odds with career criminals out in the public?

And then add another social problem like asking you what is your opinion on guns and gun laws, and if there were no guns in citizens hands, the world finds out and boat loads, flattened out footpaths are on the way to your country... how will you stop a million soldiers times 19 countries wanting a piece of your pie by shooting your family and did you know they banned pots and pans as weapons? Nice future without guns... do you agree it's possible under how the amendments are being abused today? Who is the most vocal about destroying these amendments, the dems, republicans, independents, or anyone I left out?

I know BnB will be on the same page reading this. My writing is not that esoteric. He can explain this post for you if you like. But lets get the shit out of town question answered first.

Methinks the suppositions of the left are in their own minds.So naturally they can only believe others think like them.That's why it's so 'easy' for em to throw out these attitudes.That's how they think.If one doesn't see everything as black/white/brown etc.then they're not actually being hypocritical when they say..."I don't see it like that"...which they get accused of all the time.It comes from having a closed mind and tunnel vision.Then convincing oneself that they're right...all the time.In themselves.

Mad, did you hear donny mention he had to 'deal with the comey's of washington' so he assigned rudy to investigate for him? Does FISA sound like they are trustworthy, let alone the feds making 17 mistakes on the report. Would you feel comfortable in that kind of work environment? I heard the paraphrase from donny, but as far as the rest, that's media coverage and I'm now a skeptic of everything but the horses mouth.

Either way, lets assume the fed fiasco is true, was donny up against the system and the system was corrupt? And didn't it show that Page was innocent and now is suing his own gov? Wasn't this more a plot against a president? A coup. How far fetched is this? Just curious as to what your take is on this one?

I couldn't have said it better as to what BnB explained. It's been a whole what say ye? I am just wondering how gathering and assembling a few facts can cause Koflaism.

Bag On

Bag Off

So, you're saying that no republican cities have drug problems or homeless or trash?
Seriously???

Mad

That's what Imma talkin about...;)

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2020/01/23/soft-on-crime_liberals_are_ruining_americas_greatest_cities_142209.html

You asked the question and I researched it.

How can you condone this stuff? It sure is not the republicans letting criminals go free. The article said 'libs are ruining the ciites' not republicans... Are you that naive?! Just curious is all.

Not to the extent of liberal controlled cities, they do not. Deflect, deflect, deflect. Fact, the top ten crime infested cities are all controlled by dems. Fact, the ten cities with the highest murder rates are dem led cities. I can go on and on with statistics if you insist. Truth is you cant justify why it is what it is other than the fact that liberal's are incapable of leading/ governing successfully. Plain as the nose on your face. You are truly naive/out of touch to even make a statement like that.

* Last updated by: Backinblack on 2/17/2020 @ 11:06 AM *

3. Tweeting that Roger Stone's sentence was too harsh and threatening a pardon, after which Barr rescinded the sentence causing 4 US goverment Attorneys to resign.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/02/why-wasnt-andrew-mccabe-charged/

Mad, are you saying you are pro mccabe with that question? Again, I don't know how much I believe, but... any comment on this one?

Come on Mad, I'm not taking this personal. It's just politics. We have no control over what these individuals do, but it just bites them back if it becomes a plot, no? Eventually it falls apart. Stone did not obstruct. McCabe? He stained the FBI. Blamed the ny and dc offices, and then two innocent employees are the fall guys?

As if you sat in the jury box and they both had their day... Got enough evidence?

* Last updated by: Hub on 2/17/2020 @ 11:57 PM *

What are your thoughts about these topics?

Well, he picks his nose.
But, he washes his hands each time he kneads the dough.

Well, he's so obnoxious I hate going to that store.
(yeah)-But, he's got the best deals anywhere.

Well, I'm going to start a thread and not participate.
But, now it looks like you are not credible like Kofla.

Well, that's your opinion.
But, wouldn't you agree it's true?

Well, I guess you're right. Man, I hate the truth.
But, I though you hated trump?

Well, that too.
But, I think that shovel ready guy is taking credit for the economy.

Well, that's true.
But, butt, I think if you vote for mayor pete, I'd hold a sign that said, 'make sex safe again' and wink-wink, invest in condoms, rubber stocks, rainbow flags; like, wood, cotton, paint companies. What an economy withat guy. Weed be shit'inn pretty.

Now, can we agree there was something deep state, yes or no? Do we have enough evidence yet? Are we missing some common sense, yes or no? I'm still working on your #3 question. You are just making me curious and I'm just searching shit to shoot the shit. Would you like to bring your shit so we can shit upon it?