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Created on: 02/07/09 12:26 PM

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Tune your ZX-14 Suspension
02/07/09 12:26 PM

This is another HOW-TO post from the zx14ninja.com forum. It was made by 06BlueZX14 on 5/31/2007.

This is a repost of the "meat" of my post from some time back.....but w/o the replies.

Hope some newer riders will find it helpful.

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You got 3 things to turn on each side of the forks as well as an extra adj if you like by moving the forks. You got 2 things to turn on the rear and a spring - if you want to mess with it. I am about 190lbs w/o gear. I wear full leathers and helmet at all times and sometimes a back protector. I will tell you the stock settings, the Sport Rider settings and my settings. I found it not quiet right for me on the streets here - funny since it is the same streets I ride. So set it to stock and ride......if you don't like it then go for the magazine settings and then if still not feeling good - try my settings.

TOOLS:

You can use the one from the tool kit, but I suggest a longer flat screwdriver instead of the stock 2 piece thing.
14mm wrench,
Allen wrench to loosen lower fairing if you like,
Some tool to measure with if you need to make the fork position adjustment.....ruler, caliper....etc.
Jack or stand - something to get the front wheel up.
10mm 1/4 drive socket and rachet to looosen lower fork clamp if needed.
Flashlight

FRONT:

1. Rebound damping:

Why 2 pics? So you can see the little clip on the adjuster (gold colored) - up and down. The adjuster will travel up when you ride and you will probably push it back in during your adjustments........it is fine that it moves - just wanted to mention before the questions come about it.

This adjuster clicks.....has a set number of positions. When you get to the end of the travel up or down it gets tight......turn it all the way out and all the way in to find all the clicks and to feel the upper and lower limit. DO NOT FORCE IT.....up or down. You will know when you find the top and bottom click. Just go to where it binds A LITTLE and then move forward or back to the closest click. We will set it from the bottom going out. So turn it all the way IN and then set it to the lower click. From there come out - 5, 4 or 3 (Stock, magazine and mine - the other adjustments will follow this same pattern)

2. Preload:

Same pic - it is the black part that the rebound adjuster goes through. This does not click, but is smooth. You will see lines on the side. You can turn it all the way in and out to see the range, but no point in doing it for this and it will only tend to remove the nice black coating. You can put a small piece of electrical tape in the wrench to prevent marring. Turn it to 4-9mm out (stock setting and I don't remember how many lines it would be) that is .2 - .7 inches for the non-metric types. 7 lines for the magazine setting and 5 lines for my setting.

3. Compression damping:

This one clicks.....set it like the one up top to 10 clicks out (both stock and magazine say 10) and 7 for mine.

That is it for the front unless you want to slide the forks up. Sliding the forks up in the clamps will lower the front for a little better turn-in if you love twisties, bring the front down to a little more "sporty" riding position.

I recommend you start with no more than half an inch (I am using .75") - look at the pic to see measuring points. Not sure where the stock position is for sure because it may differ from bike to bike depending on the installer. So the .5 inch is from the top of the fork to the lowest point where the handles bolt on. This is when you need the front tire up. If you loosen the bolts with weight on the front then the fork springs will push the forks up and be higher than you want and good luck trying to push it all back together. Get the weight off the front and then go for it. I reccomend you remove the fender to get to the lower clamp bolts.........shown here:

UPDATE.............NO MORE THAN .5 INCH - REDUCED CLEARANCE DANGER.

Be very careful when removing the plastic brake line holders.

BE SURE THAT BOTH FORKS HAVE THE SAME ADJUSTMENTS. Take your time and be sure or it will not work as well and may show some uneven tire wear - which also means uneven traction.

REAR:

1. Rebound damping:

Hard to see so I put a <span style="color: red">red</span> dot to show where. This one does not click, but is smooth. Turn it all the way in (DO NOT BOTTOM IT HARD) and come back out 1.5 for stock, 1 for the magazine setting and I use 1 as well.....maybe just a bit more than 1.

2. Compression damping:

This one too has no clicks. Go in and then out 2.25 stock, 2.50 for magazine - softer than stock for some reason.....and I use only half a turn....pretty stiff if the roads are really bumpy so don't go that far in to start with.

3. Preload:

You will not want to mess with this one. If you feel it is not working good enough then you can adjust by turning the adjusters to change it or go to the dealer and let them do it. If it comes to that then maybe let them change it to a higher quality piece and then adjust it. There is no stock setting in the book and the magazine says 22mm from the top of the spring to the top of the threads. I sorta measured it and it looks like they are saying leave it where it is.......which I did. It should show about 9 threads above the adjuster.

THAT'S IT!


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RE: Tune your ZX-14 Suspension
07/08/09 11:23 PM

I no longer have the old server space(thus the red X), but can post up the pics for this ancient thread if anyone wants them............



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RE: Tune your ZX-14 Suspension
07/09/09 7:50 AM

Yes! Please do.

If you would create a new posting in this thread by copy/pasting the text above into a new message and adding the pictures, I could get rid of the message above and we would have a new HOW-TO with pictures.

I think this is an important one.

Thanks. -bg


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RE: Tune your ZX-14 Suspension
07/09/09 9:00 PM

I'll dig up the pics and put them on Photobucket - then admin can replace the red X's with them in the top post........



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RE: Tune your ZX-14 Suspension
07/10/09 1:51 AM

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RE: Tune your ZX-14 Suspension
07/16/09 4:54 PM

tuning your sus. does this help keep the front wheel down?

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RE: Tune your ZX-14 Suspension
07/16/09 7:01 PM

No. The sag squats more plush and the front tire hits down with less pogo sticking.



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RE: Tune your ZX-14 Suspension
07/22/09 7:48 AM

Any chance a Noob can see the pics that should accompany this thread ?



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RE: Tune your ZX-14 Suspension
07/22/09 7:56 AM

06BlueZX14 was the original author of the thread, and was going to give us links to the pics so I could put them back in the first posting. Haven't heard back from him yet on that, though... -bg

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RE: Tune your ZX-14 Suspension
08/08/09 9:46 AM

I wanted to post a link to this video, which was found in a message on the Bikeland forum. It is just EXCELLENT regarding tuning suspension. If I lived closer to Redwood City, CA, I would certainly take my bike in to this guy for a suspension tuning. Enjoy... -bg

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RE: Tune your ZX-14 Suspension
08/08/09 3:40 PM

HUGE difference in setting up the suspension makes! I had mine done by a local forum group mechanic that knows what he is doing(had a performance shop do it first and wasn't even close). Can't believe the difference the right setup makes, I'm soooo addicted to the twisties now! If I didn't like to jump on it just cruising around I would go through 2 fronts for every rear.



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RE: Tune your ZX-14 Suspension
10/06/09 1:28 PM

Im taking mine in to the dealer tomorrow for a suspension set up.

Im 280 without gear,, 6-2. And have been on stock settings since July and 1200 miles.

Im excitied to see what the difference will make.

Anything I need to keep in mind or ask for when having it set up? I guess sagg is first and formost.

And being a bigger guy,, I have bottomed the front out several times.

Thanks

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RE: Tune your ZX-14 Suspension
12/13/10 10:54 PM

06BlueZX14 was the original author of the thread, and was going to give us links to the pics so I could put them back in the first posting. Haven't heard back from him yet on that, though... -bg

I think I have them if you want them.



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RE: Tune your ZX-14 Suspension
12/13/10 11:26 PM

Here are the pics in order:











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RE: Tune your ZX-14 Suspension
12/14/10 9:50 AM

Thank you! -bg

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RE: Tune your ZX-14 Suspension
12/17/10 2:22 PM

Really good informed thread cheers, makes it a bit better than OME manual helps put it in to clear understanding.



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RE: Tune your ZX-14 Suspension
12/17/10 3:11 PM

06Blue's write up hepled me tune my suspension on my '06. Read it on the old forum. Glad the pics are back!

These vids are good too... if you haven't already seen 'em.





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RE: Tune your ZX-14 Suspension
12/19/10 4:26 PM

Cheers fer that too dogo, all good info is gooooooooood



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RE: Tune your ZX-14 Suspension
12/28/10 11:12 PM

Cant say it enough men this forum is a fairdinkum supper bute place!!! she points alot better around the bends now thanks to this really f--n great forum



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RE: Tune your ZX-14 Suspension
12/29/10 7:39 PM

^^^+1 , Bean. If you feel the rear end is a bit jumpy I would suggest getting the Kawasaki rear shock spanner tool and turning open a bit more. Worked well for me. Mine was set for carrying a lot heavier load than just me. Probably done at dealer prep. They made a mistake(if you can imagine that).



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RE: Tune your ZX-14 Suspension
12/29/10 7:53 PM

Hey rook Goody got my bike right now he said it neads more spring in the rear to suite his bigger frame, dont no myself fer obvious reasons but Im guessing shes set just right fer my 75kilos, but thanks again mate !



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RE: Tune your ZX-14 Suspension
01/07/11 9:07 PM

Romans showed that video some time back great info. everybody should watch it..

Thanks DogoZX


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RE: Tune your ZX-14 Suspension
01/21/11 10:28 AM

1) Is there an order to doing a suspension setting? What's first and why? What's second and why? etc. I learned the zx14 is factory setup for a 150 lb rider. I'm 180 with gear, the bike bottoms on road irregularities.

2) Do you adjust your settings when expecting to ride with a passenger?

You list the Front 1) rebound damping, 2) preload & 3) compression damping, then Rear 1,2 & 3. Is that your order to do a suspension? Why rebound damping before preload work, etc.?
The guy in the YouTube videos started first with measuring the front fork for a preload setting.


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RE: Tune your ZX-14 Suspension
01/21/11 1:41 PM

Makes no difference the order you do it, I set mine up to be like I'm heavier for most times my wife is with me so I set them as a heavier bloke.



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RE: Tune your ZX-14 Suspension
01/24/11 3:31 AM

Hi all,
Trying to set my suspension up and have no idea basically. But I don;t give in easily, I want to try this myself and not pay someone to do it. This post and google has helped me somewhat but I have some questions I am sure guys on here will know a straight up answer for me.

The guy I bought my bike from was alot heavier than me and he must have the suspension quite hard. I mostly ride poor quality country twisty roads. Every bump and pothole feels like the front wheel is hitting a brick wall. Leaning into a corner the front has many times bounced off the road when hitting a bump. Definitely not nice. As for the back wheel mates following me reckon its in the air more than on the road bouncing out of every bump and hollow.

I'm 85kg so I'm thinking geared up I'd be around the 100kg mark or a bit more. I was thinking about changing suspension back to stock settings as above and go from there.

A question on the post by bgordon (kudos mate - great post) - for the front suspension point 2 (preload) stock is 4-9mm out"", is that four lines at about 9mm? I don't think I have that right because bgordon says can;t remember number of lines for the setting - anyone clarify for my stupidity please...
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