ok so this bike is new to me. it has 13000 miles.

I have noticed and think something is wrong.

when i am going full throttle through the gears. when I get to 5th it doesnt seem to want to go into gear easy. sometimes it shifts in just fine. other times it kicks it back rejecting the shift. then when going into 6th gear it doesn't like it either. i am nervous always now shifting into 6th at full throttle at the top ogf the rpm because I dont know if the bike will reject the shift or not.

it seems to grind into 5th and 6th sometimes. only under full load of the motor

does anyone have any info on this condition. could this mean something is out of adjustment. or needs new clutch or tranny fluid. or worse?

basically it only happens when i am doing high speed runs. regular riding I dont notice a problem in any gears.

Want positive shifts? Buy one of those electric deals so you eliminate pulling clutch if you do or not. Man will never be faster than a magnetic wahoogeewattsit at the shift lever. Like saying you could out gun a 1/5th throttle opening both your wrists start at the same time.

Lots of things happening at that speed like pressure on the foot, gear ratio sync, timing, timing, did I say precision timing?

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so went out for another top spped run or 3 qfter posting this.

if im slow on the shift it has no problems at any rpm range or throtrle position. basically i went out and topped the bike out from 2nd gear to the top of 6th. if i was slow on shifts and thinking about it. the bike shifted fine. so maybe timing was off previously. not to sure. but no problems this go around

damn. lots of us never topped the bik out in 3rd. Lucky to live somewhere where you can do that gartec.

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really... there are places everywhere. bikes pretty fast to get up to 6th.

so do others do a relaxed shift with these bikes or is my timing all off and i just need more practice.

really... there are places everywhere. bikes pretty fast to get up to 6th.

yeah I know but still takes some stones. I cruised the highways at 90-100 a couple years back. That was just ordinary riding. cops will get into your mind if you get busted.

far as shifting. I always shift fast but if I'm just doing normal street riding, I usually don't hit the throttle as fast.

At mid to high rpm I experience a bit of a notchy (bangs in a bit) feeling from 1st to second and second to third. I don't know about the higher gears. I'm doing 130 by the time I done with third and that's about as fast as I go these days. 4,5, and 6 are gears that I am not screaing when I shift. .....sounds like a lot of fun though, I really need to try it.

If I am at all wishy washy on a shift, it might just click back or go to false neutral. That is rare though. The clutch seems to help it go in. My clutchless upshifts with my ignition kill quickshifter requires a definite, decisive and fast footshift. If the shift does not happen in 60/100s of a second, kill time is done and the motor is back at full power. The shift will get kicked back down or go to false neutral and hit the rev limiter.

You can't be a pussy on the shift lever with one of those strain gage shifters. Air or electric is prollly more dependable but gonna ad weight and bulk.

You should be able to shift fast with this bike. It was designed for drag racing. I would say I need to apply more force when shifting at high rpm. That's all. Should click (soft bang) into gear simultaneous to clutch disengagement.

* Last updated by: Rook on 7/27/2013 @ 10:07 PM *

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Do you preload the shifter with your toe and let it find its way in with a little cut of the throttle? I'm only getting used to my 14 but the ZRX loved that, especially under load.

* Last updated by: tooncinator on 8/16/2013 @ 12:29 PM *

You can..preload that is....but just shifting up as you said...it'll click in fine without clutching.Just needs to be quick and sharp.When I'm getting hard on her...and upshifting fast...I don't use the clutch...get the r's right...easy peasy;)Just don't shift sloppy or slowish....

* Last updated by: Grn14 on 8/16/2013 @ 1:34 PM *

Oh yeah, upshifting of course. Works like butter, maybe a feather of clutch out of habit for me.
Damn I wish I was riding right now.

* Last updated by: tooncinator on 8/16/2013 @ 1:53 PM *

Chain adjust does a lot for a better planted gear. You can still misshift if you are sloppy. I don't know if I'd want to load the lever? I'd have to not think of shifting. Thinking may mess it up. Instinct is where you want to be.

* Last updated by: Hub on 8/16/2013 @ 2:28 PM *

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I would change out the oil for a good quality product.
I have noticed with my new bike the gearbox shift and feel was dodgy on the run in oil and whatever they put in again at 1000ks.
I have replaced the oil twice myself and used a good quality motorcycle oil and the shifts and feedback of the shift lever have improved. It just felt like a pig shifting with what must have been cheap arse dealer oil.
You might just need a good oil in it.

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Chain adjust does a lot for a better planted gear.

+1 not TOO loose. Too tight, the chain will stretch. Too loose, shifts will miss.

I would change out the oil for a good quality product.

That helps and also the proper level. I recently added just a few ounces and noticed the shifts were smoother and did not miss. My oil level is kept closer to the top line.

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Preload always worked for me on all my bikes, 14 loves that stuff on hard accel, but I feather at low rpm street riding

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