I have the raw data about to be uploaded. You make the conclusions if you like. It is out there for you to wonder if you want your subs out or not. I am just watching and trying to walk the steps of the generic computer bike.
I rather chase each step and get it out of the way.

Hindsight on this one is watch me slap the top of my forehead and say, "OF Course!" The subs tie-in with the GPS is so obvious is why didn't I think of it sooner. Puddles shifts so smooth as in, un-digital. Where as she hammers hard digitally. I have my air dam and you can see what I was talking about as I lift on the throttle rather than hard brake at all.

I have so many feet to light it up. The rest I have to shut down being everyone is coming out of farm roads or the big rigs take this route and if I take my line, I my tag a truck. So I zipped it when I could and concluded the data. Well, you can view it for yourself.

It was interesting to watch. This is raw, uncut and shrunk from 35 minutes to 9 minutes. She is whipping fast data so I can see both the throttle main and the sub work independently and then, BOOM, it hits me. Plush is what is happening. Yes, she will perform a touch better is remove that restrictor plate and rod, she tones up the crisp is all she wrote. But to ride the bike bone stock, I have the sub ridden mostly in stock configuration.

I pulled over to run the 4 codes. A guy peddling bike was riding, offered assistance, but I said thanks and then goof'd him (being the goofball I am), as if he knew what I was doing to the bike. I'll crank out that shorty because after he was so nice about helping out... I added the punch line... So, for me, that is raw comedy is what I say (under my helmet).

Bottom line, I'm keeping the subs in. You know how I love that air brake is watch it in slow motion is I had to crank up the speed. That sub so far >Is a shift bump-it-softer flapiss slapiss< And then, there is the >Air Brake< on the digital. I don't know, you tell me if you are interested in the subject. zI'm just playing with the bike, trying to see what sensor does what if to say the steps in the diagnostics would point to what sensor?

Who is out of their resistance value = (((Hesitation?))) Did the sub flub? Is the GPS flicking the sub? Sub flubba dubbing some ohm out of spec is chase my tail this is complex and over my head I love those factory engineers.

* Last updated by: Hub on 2/18/2009 @ 8:13 AM *

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1CuCPuKJ5k There is no deposit, no return on your 9 minutes of wasted viewing. You will lose come asking me [for your minutes] is out goes the disclaimer banner is it flies forever. I'm doing my thing is waste my time is complain to no one.

Hub:

So is it the shaft just very slightly left of and above center that is opening the sub-throttle plates?

Thanks for your work on this! Fascinating... -bg

Hub:

I have two questions. The first one is so dumb I'm almost afraid to ask it, but I'm an idiot, OK?

1. What, exactly, is "GPS", and how is it affecting the flies?
2. What are you doing when the flies kick all the way open and it gets quiet?

Thanks for being patient with a dummy... -bg

1. GPS acts as I take a half ass'd guess is one. GPS stands for, Gear Position and this is a sensor. I any gear, this safety valve will cut the crank speed from over revving. It is part of the limiter system. The rev limiter is one safety switch that needs a few helpers to know when that rev has been breached. Two, the 186mph limiter is governed for said gear position as well. Fly wise, the default opens so your not sucking against a closed door for air. So, this is just a guess, is this opens the flies if a part of the system fails. The GPS group is tied-in with the spark and fuel pump. Junction ground wires all wire up to this junction if I recall. That grounding is sort of a loop system. It shuts down the speed or kicks in the 186/Rev limiters as it is tied-in with the speed sensor. 186 is plotted to see 6th gear, the speed sensor, and has like a 6-shooter on each hip. One is the spark. The other is the fuel pump. Once those calculations see 186mph, the wheel speed against rev speed of the crank are shot at high noon is 12 0'clock high is call it 186 your spark falls to two coils and the fuel pump cuts in and out is I think the cut it for so many seconds or it comes back on like you never feel the low to mid- mid to high throttle transition. Like it does not exist is one 360° of crank rotation and you are on another like too complex is trust me. The math backs up the absolute you cannot feel the low to main on a carb either is the transition feels the same, doesn't it.

Once again, you un-clip one of 3Variables to the basic wire connects, you see by the video, the fuel trim does not need the GPS as I have to think that the GPS is more for the dual limiters used for rpm and mph is the gear position of 6th is kill it in 6th.

Now, I have to bring out some disclaimer being you have to ask the factory your questions. I am trying to walk a logical step as to the cause and effect of said telemetry. If you notice how I have your question as a snowball is that your two part question are two snowflakes that build the ball lets say. I doubt you'll receive a snowball chance of a correct answer. Remember, this is me taking a guess taking a shot at it.
See, I am chasing that question(s) too. That is why I want to watch the sub move. I can only pick up things by accident like watching that sub move and not the main. I hear the audio sounds of the bike or try to narrow them down to some working theory. The book says so much and that is about it for chasing the diagnostics. They do not discuss in detail, the map layout like a Suzuki Busa book say. So you pick up a lot of the practical steps they show you and that again is so much data in a FSM. Not too helpful really.

Knowing how both generation bikes perform sub wise, I would assume you could tie-in the gear-to-main-to-sub. If I remove any of the telemetry mentioned, it shuts down the sub, but the fuel trim remains the same. So, I would have to conclude that the GPS with sub is to copy the main but at a smooth transition as if you could plot the way a CV carb works with the main throttle plate and the vacuum it took to raise the slide. There was no lag like a cable connected directly to a slide. You yank a slide, it will lag if you send in that air that quick. A vacuum connected slide gave that lag-less linear transition. The sub acts as that transition as in a slight lag of time from main to slide lift. So you could say this is same-same but now it is main to sub lift, only electronically driven.

Pull the flies, then everything goes down the tubes you have a main only and now the main controls the air speed. Or say, you are the slide with the main being = The speed of your wrist. That sort of answer #1?

2. What are you doing when it gets quiet? Like at speed? You don't do anything. You do not think. You are in a zone? You mean that sort of way? Did you catch that shaft question I wrote in the How To?

Thanks, Hub! Yes, I saw the answer to the shaft question in the other forum.

The thing that I was curious about in the first video were those times when you were at a pretty high rpm and then the shaft flipped quickly clockwise and it got quiet. Quiet like the engine shut off. Didn't understand what was happening there.

It's amazing how far you've gone in understanding how this stuff works... -bg

Well, this was my profession at one time. I need to know that product line or I have no job. Say, I have to know the lawnmower engine up to the jet-ski and the bikes/atc's/4x's are in between kind of franchise is dealer level. Yes, I think I am going way over what the average rider needs to know. You read enough of me and no one is going to snow you, they do not understand that shop manual a little sharper >> you are << on the cutting edge. So, no young punk is going to tell you they can't change the water pump because it is raining out. Yes, you and I heard that and you don't change a water pump when it's raining is that is a true story from a mechanic to a woman or girl... That was the snow job; she is waiting for her car was the stall for time. Can you imagine? Can't you say we are so tied up you are first thing tomorrow is lie out the ass like that is now is the time to shove something back up there is let me know how you feel in the morning get her done.

Now I understand your quiet. It was throttle lift and coast. The quiet is the long air brake I am using. The '06 hooked me to that air brake. I love that thing slowing me down. So I take advantage of it being I have a long straightaway. You are watching me coast until you see the cable move the crank wheel again. See, If I ripped it up at that straight away any faster, I might loft for one and have to brake hard for the other. Some road areas would drop and the bike would fly if I really let it rip in gear(s) longer. I was short shifting more or less and then coasting. So for the sub watching, I just made so many rips thru gears 1-2-3 then backed off, coasted on the sub braking you see her close the sub real slow on coast? Gotta love the engineering on this thing.

Well, I'd like to understand the whole thing is sign a paper to zipper up my mouth I know every step and you don't are those company secrets. If I knew plain old C or C+/C++ or computer programming, I'd have it nailed by now. About all I can do is debug windows98 using the debugging code and by accident, again had learned some tricks [the hard (drive) way] to wiping the hard drive and starting from scratch. What a gold mine... I had a battery warranty for my laptop. I go fill out papers at the counter, I hear that service writer write up some easy fixes [while I was waiting at the counter they took care of others], I said to the guy/gal I forget, but I said you were making a killing here. I could take on most of the jobs. What they were writing up was me already been-there/done-that kind of me struggling at home removing a mail program virus, say years ago. Now I have my neighbors asking to help with their computer type breakdowns or ISP hookups... I haven't been stumped yet, knock on wood.

I like the camera mounts I came up with being spec specific with what I had to use was junk around the house my b-in-law sorta dumped over here. So it was like building a web from scratch. Now the tech will not stop because guys have not... Been-dare/done anything yet. If you watch [vid 1] from the beginning, I take off as soon as the starter motor stops is not even give it a chance to stop spinning I am moving for premium gas mileage. That is why I said to just keep moving slow to warm up the engine in part2 of the video. The main plate is almost kissing the choke arm I am moving that slow. I have the video on full screen with some high end earphones and it makes a whole lot of difference thru a desk or monitor speakers.

The radio waves in code from the 14, showers the digital camera with it's own digital set; if you had the earphones on, you can hear the few seconds from one program to the next is that stuff stumps me as far as what happened as in the next step. What is driving me is that Ivan fallacy 5th gear ratio or I can see the CAN system lock it in 5th as well as (6) and that is about the only way to set it in 5th is the CAN floats that number and it is 5th until you hear (6) lock in place is follow your ear.

Not only am I chasing Ivan's theory is never was is the Busa covered his diaper rash or ask him where he came up with that 5th gear step. The next is me calling Chris Ulrich on the carpet in another post is toast his ass or am I toast is butter my jam it up someone's ass over there at RRW is edit the facts or is Ivan their proof reader?

Like reading CW. What the fuck!!?!? You see retard in my video besides me that is?

More data to reinforce there is no ignition to sub stance abuse [I have done to my throttle bodies]. I will now use a first year, Honda CBR 1100XX and show the transition from the sub to GPS as I try to walk the evolution and engineering together as each bike becomes faster and smoother as time goes bye.

The steps walk something like this: The XX has one main throttle plate and one throttle position sensor. It has no other device used for any smoothing or telemetry tied into the speed sensor. The XX has a speed sensor and note: It does not have a gear position sensor. Remember, the backup step is the XX has no subthottle sensor either.

Yes, here we are with the CAN System for this is the traveled communication road [the wire harness] that the sensors speak to the ECM the ECM pings the sensors is the complex begins. But lets backtrack for the evolution of the flapper say clap-clap back to 1999 say. BooSay we say about that time we have the gear position sensor evolve.

Big V65 days are over and those were the mon-steers [non-air-restrictors was all you could handle is here you go] you had the V as Max the WOT with a Yamaha and Z1, as in the evolution you are sitting on now. So, now enter the GPS and for argument sake, does not matter who was the first to use the GPS/air cutting design is choose the Hyabusa as the year 1999 and that GPS tied to the air cleaner.

As I try to dispel the myths of the OTTO as I see the rotation and their enemies being lean/detonation/ignition being some of the causes to it's demise, I have to run the; 'show my your way again?" is why you find me so stubborn or say if you read the Mavericks of the race track article in March '09 RRW and technoglitch, it sounds like they did things their way is sound familiar?

Slow is me in the thinking dept is I am not on the same page being I am not college material is human contact and tact alone is forget training me working with the establishment and their fallacy world is how could the GPS and Sub work some magic is tell me if that ignition sways one bit. Now I need a camera on the crank and advance curve tell me how the bike works is not listen to a M/C&Technoglitch is my ass itches something does not smell well in the room is where there is smoke, dare is a technoglitch that needs some smoothing is like how I was explaining there is no connection between any ign/retard mode switching like the 2009 R1 uses a subthrottle speed mode switch? Sound like an air hijacking say a BooSay ago count back 10 years to date?

The 14 needs no mode switch. This bike is so close to an open throttle response is go ask the Rook if he is green to the difference not sitting on it back to back is that mode switch. Bottom line is this sub is so subtle, why use a mode switch. So, the subs are gone and where is that retard in the ignition-to-sub hack? If the engine goes retard, we ping big time we hit the WOT.

My 4 deep hacked codes explained to me that the audio in digital did not electric arc a sort of knock you could hear. At least I did not hear with ears open and as hard as I hammer that bike [codded since day one]. I would like to know where that ignition is if I have a sub-shaft code, an actuator code; being there were no connections made, so the sub system shut down along with the GPS [being a mute point]. The ignition never defaulted to a retard mode at any time. Not the way I beat crap out of this bike and the '06 being that was some fast moving air before the throttle stuck 1/2 way open and spit me off the back.

At the time of the '06 test crash the tune was open ram. And that has a significant lag of air as does the '08 when I throttled up that lag w/out air cleaner in place. Once the air cleaner was reinstalled, the lag disappeared. Once again, we are discussing nothing more than an air lag tool being the sub system. It tames the quick spinning engine this thing can do. Call it a shock absorber for smooth shifting and smooth sailing. It controls air and not ignition so much. I have no access to secrets is I am taking a seat of the pants crack at it. These parts modded are to find the raw data test score is: No piston score to offer as she retards [says you] and you hammer it she is done dancing is no, there is only an air connection to the GPS and the sub/air cleaner designs... And that is generally speaking; unless Mikuni steps up and gives the walk per each practical step. I has to step or walk in the absolute way it works kind of me trying to break the bike down for tuning purposes is nothing more.

Therefore, I have zip for a theory to for me to add there is retard happening? There is nothing more than a redundant [as far as I can tell], high performance in either code set. And if you think I can tell if I lost any HP between both = I cannot tell ~ They feel the same as in ignition curve is I cannot tell is both haul ass either way is zero retard working my throttle response.

Prove to me a backup is in retard mode or did they say in print was the FSM which stated a flying factoid is solid evidence like I have a shop manual and your retard mode says air speed or ignition curve? What page you on? I say both match ignition curves be it digital or analog if you want to argue. But to say the bike has a retard for a mode switch is I think it might have something to do with the 14 being it has a lagging sub = For Air [not ignition]. The 2009 R1 uses the sub deliberately to slow it down. The Busa of old is the same Suz 1000 for 2007 was the mode switch to air cleaner = Flapping the slapping my face with facts is hit me wit dem!

Does the sub work the ignition? I could say yes and I would think when it is tied in to the sub-shift, it will be at peak performance. If I code the bike without the sub parts being in the throttle body are now out of the body, the 14 has no clue is that it codes to backup as if nothing happened, I cannot tell the difference.

I have that retard myth covered is bet me on that technocrap I read is crap or the cream of the crop is chop my advance curve is come ride this bike = I half retard written all over it.

* Last updated by: Hub on 2/18/2009 @ 8:18 AM *