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Created on: 08/03/21 12:14 PM

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zx9rmal


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Preemptive parts replacement
08/03/21 12:14 PM

So I have 82K miles on my '12. It's in great shape. No problems in 9+ years, other than a leaky clutch slave cylinder.
I only do long rides and the occasional multi day trip. With that amount of miles, I'm starting to think about something on the bike going bad, and stranding me.

Have any of you guys had experiences or heard of issues with the 14R after 80+K miles? I've been considering replacing the fuel pump for peace of mind. Of course, with that thinking, there are other components to consider as well, e.g., electrical/ignition, etc.

Thoughts?



Mal Ft. Lauderdale, FL, '22 ZX-14R, '20 ZL1

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RE: Preemptive parts replacement
08/03/21 1:25 PM

Let's more have a discussion on the 3-D's: Dependable/Durable/Dead.

Dependable: You have to agree this is a killer of a bike right out of the crate. No mechanical/electrical/engineering flaw you can point to. That was since the day you owned it. A car on two wheels. Component wise, how many miles are on the car you have? And you are going to change out what?

Durable: It has the same durability as a car component. Whereas, we are discussing the fix it before it breaks v. let it code to tell you. That's the discussion. We are riding a backup-coded bike that gets you home. Knowing that, and say there are 9 running backups to keep running, here is where you change it for argument sake.

What I'm thinking is to know the electrical side of self diagnosing. This way you do not waste your money, the parts are not tampered with. It's a closed loop system in many ways. When it codes it breaks that loop. That's when you inspect for a dropped analog signal at the jobber, and now the ECU duplicates it in a backup. This is now a digital action and the ECU takes over for the analog.

No pun intended, but the key here is key on. That says a clean code-less jobber that is not out of spec. You now think, the jobber WAS sending thousands of signals [analog] a second, but now the jobber is ...

... Dead: The jobber is sending no signal at all [one single digit] and that reads as 0 to the ECU. Thousands of times is the discharge of one saved value. It knows if the rpm/wheels have moved a wrinkle at every fill of that ever changing [analog] signal. But it keeps sending in 0 after the same [digit] of 0 in binary speak. The dash sends in a code number that points to that jobber. Therefore, it's so simple in its complexity, your wife has to know this so she's not snowed at the service drive once the check-engine-light comes on.

I believe this is how the abstract in the service manual is explaining it. They expect you to understand the motherboard parts as to how the jobber fails. So D stands for Digit and that same 000000000 is D E A D on arrival. You may now spend that money on oil and filter changes. Clean is the machine.

Fuel pump wise, I too am guilty of hording parts I may never use. Again, key on is going to make a sound or not. And on its last breath diagnostic wise, it's a get you homer, but if you give it gas it falls on its nose. That's my campfire on this side of the lake, fix it when it breaks.

Signed,
My self diagnosing ride that still gets me home.



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RE: Preemptive parts replacement
08/03/21 4:07 PM

That's good thinking to be prepared for fuel pump problems but you will have warning signs if that ever happens. I've only heard of the fuel filters clogging and usually the engine runs poorly when there's a high demand for fuel.

With 80k miles on the bike, you might need new clutch fiber plates soon but again, you'll get warning signs.

I can't think of anything else except the normal routine items including battery.

I wouldn't be surprised if your compression is a bit low at this point but you'll never know that by riding the bike. I've heard of a guy with over a 100k and he was still doing triple digits on a regular basis.

I had my 08 for 13 years and it had 50k miles on it. The clutch was ready to change. The fuel pump was never touched and it was working as it should. The only complaint I ever had was a low rpm, small throttle hesitation and it did that from the day I got it from the dealership. Maybe I'll still figure that one out someday.


* Last updated by: Rook on 8/3/2021 @ 4:07 PM *



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RE: Preemptive parts replacement
08/04/21 2:00 PM

I must be easy on my bikes. 80k miles and have had one coil fail and a battery shorted out.
That's it except for the never ending issue with wearing out rear tires.

Mad



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zx9rmal


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RE: Preemptive parts replacement
08/04/21 2:08 PM

The 14R is in its 10th year and is bulletproof. I see that the Kawasaki website is now showing the 2022 14R. Same color, but with red accents instead of the green. Much nicer in my opinion. At 74 years old, I think I just might start fresh with a new '22 and make it my last bike.



Mal Ft. Lauderdale, FL, '22 ZX-14R, '20 ZL1

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RE: Preemptive parts replacement
08/04/21 4:14 PM

I just might start fresh with a new '22

That was going to be my response to the preemptive
parts replacement question.

I'm looking at a new dirt bike and it's about
the same as a 14 out the door and I was thinking
same thing, probably be my last dirt bike I'd be buying
so might as well go for it!

I know I won't regret it.

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