I've have Ruben Xaus on my watch screen for a few years. So, whatever he rides, he is still my guy to do some damage [if he can stay on]. When he is on his day, nothing I think can touch him or he tosses it away. The paper trail says the Bummer is the bike to beat. With a combination like this, how can you go wrong?

I'm sticking with Xaus. I would be on the Bummer if I were to pick a bike to use for this type of race class. This should be an interesting season as the factory struggles with that pile.

Great Info

For your reading pleasure or was it for my own entertainment? Found a BMW dealership with a 1000 on the floor. I did not sit on it. All I did was lift it off the side stand to see how this would feel weight wise? It's too heavy! If I had light wheels, the lightest pipe, no front fairing, I could probably match the weight or come close to that, 'pull the bike upright off the side stand.'

I then walked into the service dept and asked to see the shop manual for the 1000. We get to talking, he shows me BMW sends the service dept more software than paper manuals. This thing runs so many codes, it's sickening. These poor guys running the bikes on the track are bumping into the rev limiter, 'break-in' counter. Yeah, like for real, this bike is preset not to rev at break-in. It's like they force you to run that engine in slow. Say for 600 miles and/or 1000 miles yet again. It's on line for that computer glitch.

They held any and every bike on the floor, sold or not sold, until there was some sort of re-flash on the ECU is my guess. I did not ask. The salesman walked right past me and back in his office after some customer left he was talking to. Sound typical like snob dis? Anyway, I looked at those torx bolts all over that bike. I then chased the screen for codes. There were plenty. They did not say much. Just one code about some telemetry after the other. "The list was long and distinguished." It was getting busy and I took up enough of his time where he needed the mouse back to write a work order.

Go Xaus! My rider, not the bike data is.

These poor guys running the bikes on the track are bumping into the rev limiter, 'break-in' counter. Yeah, like for real, this bike is preset not to rev at break-in. It's like they force you to run that engine in slow. Say for 600 miles and/or 1000 miles yet again.

Funny thing, they made sure not to mention this to me. Great info. Cheers

My 750 is so rude... Today, this guy is getting race rubber and redialing his suspension...
NHIS opening track day for the 2010 season hurt some people's feelings

The proud owner of this machine will pay for my next track day at NHIS- I guess the new BMW in street trim and with street tires is not quicker than my track 750 with race rubber, neither was the 1098R

* Last updated by: masszx14 on 4/27/2010 @ 10:36 AM *

I guess the new BMW in street trim and with street tires is not quicker than my track 750 with race rubber, neither was the 1098R

No fair both bikes have 1.5 inch chicken strips. LOL man I hope thats before the first session

I guess you don't know much about tire wear- this is a pic of the same rear on the gixxer
scrubbed in 2 weeks earlier on the street

This one is telling IMHO

This was off Akrapovich website
Both with Akrapovich full system

Values (hp):

ZX10R / BMWS1KRR

3000rpm: 32/25
4000rpm: 48/37
5000rpm: 66/54
6000rpm: 85/71
7000rpm: 103/90
8000rpm: 123/111
9000rpm: 142/130
10000rpm: 156/151
11000rpm: 169/170
12000rpm: 175/181

Obviously the BMW kept climbing past 12, the point of the graph was showing what it gave up down low...

That zx10r is not that bad of a bike after all

In fact I do know a little bit about the subject. I was making reference to the BMW and the Duc which was done in joking manner. There are lots of factors that determine tire wear I would never use it to gauge a persons skill or how fast they may or may not be (not that anyone gives a shit either way at a trackday).I would not assume my bike is better than someone else simply because I was a faster rider either. So you tore up a soft compound on the street what are you trying to convey with the picture???

So you tore up a soft compound on the street what are you trying to convey with the picture???

According to Dave Moss, of, OTT, [you missed an informative live show last night] I am sure he could have pointed out each area of contact and what the shredding and gumballs were doing. Dave went through tire carcass scrub patterns. Their Ustream shows are archived, so I would watch any of the tire shows they have. I had to leave the monitor a couple of times so I missed some. Things I did catch were things like: Air pressures do this, shock rebound would do this, over pressure would do this, rolling out of a corner does this, someone with good throttle control has a tire like this.

Overload! Worthwhile too.

Dave Moss is truely incredible with the way he can read a tire and set up suspensions!

Rook, that's an excellent question. I'd have to believe they're setting the bikes up with completely different suspension, no matter the vendor/model, plus electronics (traction control, ignition timing, etc) that we probably couldn't get our hands on if we tried.

Things I think about when making decisions to purchase - how long has this model been out? How much maintenance will I be able to do myself? How much specialized tools will I have to buy? Have all the kinks been worked out with this newness? Et cetera.

Sure seems like an awful lot of money for a literbike that hasn't been around all that long and is the first product from BMW to foray into the world of superbikes.

Like the others said, I'd suggest going with a tried and true Japanese Big 4 and mod it. With the amount of up front cost you'd save getting a Kaw/Yam/Hon/Suz, you could more than make up the difference in HP/suspension modding it.

Then again, the BMW sure seems like raw bad-assedness and if I had money to throw around, I'd end up with one.

* Last updated by: loadedmind on 4/30/2010 @ 8:51 AM *

The bike looks great in person and it's a really refined machine,
other than the ugly green IMHO.

You don't need 196 rwhp to be fast and those racers on the 600 cc bikes that overtake people on liter
bikes effortlessly during the open afternoon sessions are a perfect example of that.

For street riding almost any bike will be able to accelerate adequately to the posted speed limit IMHO