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Thread: what the heck !!!!!

Created on: 05/27/12 03:50 PM

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audioboyz


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Location: Washington,Pa

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RE: what the heck !!!!!
06/03/12 3:33 PM

All I know is mine is fairly stock.Rolled it in 6th and it pulled 150 up a hill pretty quick.If I down shift from 3rd 185 fast.I don't go that fast but I want to do it once then put my Vortex 43 back on.Bike is a beast with 16/43
gears.Haven't run them since my dynotune.
Craig



Kawasaki is the worlds guardian of high performance 09 ZX-14 Monster Edition,Brocks Alienhead,PCV,-1 front sprocket, 43 Vortex rear sprocket,Speedo DRD speed calibration device,CF Ram Air Tube Covers

flies out,Zero Gravity tall smoked,LSL handlebar kit,K&;N Filter Concours seat,pollution block off plates installed,Dynotuned 175HP 104FT LB's TQ

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zx14racer


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Location: New Jersey

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RE: what the heck !!!!!
06/03/12 4:26 PM

I hear you audioboy,i have 16 43 gear on my 12 14r and it's nuts.



2012 ZX14R.....Brocks CT exhaust,PC5,Gearing,Slammed and Pulled!!!

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smokinstorm


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Location: OBX, NC

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RE: what the heck !!!!!
06/03/12 6:39 PM

I'm sorry I'm being cast out because I don't race my own bike. I do ride it wherever and whenever I want though. It's just that I'm too heavy to effectively race the bike anymore. I know, I know. I did it to myself and not a day goes by that I don't kick myself for letting my weight blow up to such outrageous proportions. Like every true racer though, I've got a goal and I'm determined to get back down to 300 pounds this year and then, well.....who knows? Probably add 10 years to my life and, at 47, I probably need to be thinking about that. But I do have two good friends that handle the racing duties for me. One is 160ish pounds suited and is also the mechanic. The other is 240ish pounds suited and is the chief of police at the local state university hence why we have to limit all of our racing activities to the track. That pretty much covers any potential races we might get so as no one will have a significant weight advantage. I also feel the need to address (sorry) the claim that maybe I'm loaded with money (Donald Trump reference) but that could not be further from the truth. I just choose to spend my money on play toys (bikes for now) and making memories. In that light I do not drink, do any drugs or anything else to waste money on so I'll have as much disposable income to work on the bikes as possible. My friends contribute to the bike fund whenever necessary so it's really a three man team with no one individual able to go it alone. It works for us. Being called a "Fat Fuck" is not new to me and, as I mentioned earlier, I brought it on myself. Doesn't quite take the sting out of it though especially when it was totally uncalled for. But again, my problem to deal with. Now, I fully understand how strong and powerful the new 14R is. I have an old school ZX14 and, trust me, it's no slouch itself especially with my light guy on it. Still, it's down probably 20 horsepower and almost that much torque compared to the new ones. Does that mean the new one will trounce my old school one every time? Not on your life. We've had one race against the new 10R and several against the new 14R. We were fortunate enough to come out on top every time. Notice I did not say we blew them away, it was no contest or any wording such as that. I said we were fortunate enough to get a win each time and I'll let that sentence stand on its own merit. Sorry to ramble but, in my mind anyhow, I needed to clear the air. Sorry to the OP about jumping on your thread and taking it in directions not intended from the outset. I just had a point to make concerning the original topic and got sidetracked badly. Please forgive me. I've got several followers from different forums and I'm sure any of them will let you guys know that my intentions are not ill-willed when I post and I try to help but also get to the truth whenever I'm involved. Again, to the OP, please forgive this thread hijack. I'll try not to let it happen again. Thanks for reading everyone and have a good one.



2009 Monster Edition ZX14, 70" wheelbase, 16-46 gearing, air shifter, Shinko Drag Radial. 2005 Turbo Hayabusa, 74" wheelbase, 16-43 gearing, foot shifted, Shinko Drag Radial. 2001 GSXR 1000, long, low and not stock.

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Hub


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RE: what the heck !!!!!
06/03/12 7:06 PM

Hey storm? We have fat fucks that could out reflex on the hand eye. It takes that registering no matter how much blubber is at the lever. If fatty leaves before you do, the track ends about 2 feet ahead... Fatty wins. So in a way, was it really the fat part of the excuse or are we back to the rider?

I've seen a 'humble' handed over to a racer. The engine builder says, "I just want it to run with the front runners and I'll be happy." The bike goes thru the traps, it is faster than all the rest. The guy choked thru the sections of the course. It showed he had plenty of HP to cover the field. Unfortunately, it is hard to find a front row rider with a front row 'humbled' under them.

Moral of the story? Blame the bike, the blame may come back to you.



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zx14racer


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RE: what the heck !!!!!
06/03/12 7:11 PM

No problem smokinstorm i crossed the line and im truley sorry.I guess your 14 beating the new 14r was rider error though, Since like you said the new 14 has more hp and tq.



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smokinstorm


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Location: OBX, NC

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RE: what the heck !!!!!
06/03/12 7:34 PM

No problem smokinstorm i crossed the line and im truley sorry.I guess your 14 beating the new 14r was rider error though, Since like you said the new 14 has more hp and tq.

It may have been. Dave (light rider) is still improving his times and MPH's on my 14 but t he same can be said for every other 14R we've come up against. They're not used to their bikes either. There's a big bike race (at least it's a big race for us) at our local track on June 16th. One 14R in particular has thrown the kitchen sink at his bike with his sights set firmly on us. This one could be interesting especially if he leaves first. I know the weather will not allow us to run anywhere near what we ran a couple of months ago but I'm pretty sure the weather will be the same in both lanes at the track. I wish I could get a tune for MR12 but that's just not going to be in the cards in this short time frame. I'll probably need that advantage as he's running that magic fuel now. Dave has been working on his 60's and they're down quite a bit now compared to when he ran his best time on the bike. Other factors have prevented him from bettering his 1/8th mile time though. Best ET to date came on a 1.36 60' and Dave has since cut a 1.29. Obviously he should have bettered his best 1/8th mile time to date with that new 60' effort but other factors (including DA) conspired against him and he only ran a 5.65, well over a tenth off his best 660'. I cannot modify the Monster 14 any more for now so we'll just have to hope for the best and let Dave do his thing to try to take the win against the 10R and the 14R. We do not have a performance advantage but maybe good fortune will remain on our side.



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dragking


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RE: what the heck !!!!!
06/03/12 7:49 PM


I know you don't drink Smokin but let's have a toast: we can agree to disagree and get along lol



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BadinBlack


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RE: what the heck !!!!!
06/06/12 3:02 AM

Just boost it already and be done with it I highly doubt a boosted 14R is going to lose many roll on street races...no matter what the riders weight

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audioboyz


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Location: Washington,Pa

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RE: what the heck !!!!!
06/06/12 3:12 PM

I'm 6'3 and 250-270.Depends on my doughnut intake.I don't race it but it's fast.Didn't buy it to race.I raced a Z1000 but it wouldn't stay on the ground.When I dropped the clutch both hamstrings would pull.Ouch.Just want to ride very fast.
Craig



Kawasaki is the worlds guardian of high performance 09 ZX-14 Monster Edition,Brocks Alienhead,PCV,-1 front sprocket, 43 Vortex rear sprocket,Speedo DRD speed calibration device,CF Ram Air Tube Covers

flies out,Zero Gravity tall smoked,LSL handlebar kit,K&;N Filter Concours seat,pollution block off plates installed,Dynotuned 175HP 104FT LB's TQ

2011 Mustang GT 6-Speed 5.0

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smokinstorm


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Location: OBX, NC

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RE: what the heck !!!!!
06/06/12 6:17 PM

This is me as well. I didn't actually buy the 14 to race it but, deep in my heart, I knew I was going to. Sam and I have too much history racing together to not have gone down this same path with the new bike. This time will be different than before though. Nothing will be done to the bike to prevent anyone from riding anywhere, anytime. It has to remain 100% streetable with no compromises. Long wheelbase is OK as neither of us goes around corners anyhow. But it has to sit in traffic and not overheat. It has to burn pump gas, etc, etc, etc. And I'm trying to compete against the new 10R's and 14R's. Tough assignment let me tell you.



2009 Monster Edition ZX14, 70" wheelbase, 16-46 gearing, air shifter, Shinko Drag Radial. 2005 Turbo Hayabusa, 74" wheelbase, 16-43 gearing, foot shifted, Shinko Drag Radial. 2001 GSXR 1000, long, low and not stock.

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Romans


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RE: what the heck !!!!!
06/06/12 6:51 PM

. It has to remain 100% streetable with no compromises. Long wheelbase is OK as neither of us goes around corners anyhow. But it has to sit in traffic and not overheat. It has to burn pump gas, etc, etc, etc. And I'm trying to compete against the new 10R's and 14R's. Tough assignment let me tell you.

Tough assignment ? Your description describes my bike to a T. This would be a street kit stage 1. Also the easiest to do.

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smokinstorm


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RE: what the heck !!!!!
06/06/12 7:16 PM

Tough assignment ? Your description describes my bike to a T. This would be a street kit stage 1. Also the easiest to do.

Well, I just bought a turbo ZX14 from Texas so yes, I believe you totally on this one. I want to do this with the Monster Edition one I already have. It'll be a piece of cake with the turbo. Not so easy NA. Probably gonna get spanked on the 16th by one of those pesky 14R's. I hope not but it's probably inevitable. They're going to have to run some 5.40's to do it though and the only one I've seen so far to do that is Lee in Florida.



2009 Monster Edition ZX14, 70" wheelbase, 16-46 gearing, air shifter, Shinko Drag Radial. 2005 Turbo Hayabusa, 74" wheelbase, 16-43 gearing, foot shifted, Shinko Drag Radial. 2001 GSXR 1000, long, low and not stock.

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jetmechanic



Joined: 06/06/12

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RE: what the heck !!!!!
06/06/12 9:58 PM

I heard that the 2012 ZX14R has a built in safety mode that kills timing in the first three gears when the throttle is whacked open. (this would explain why the zx10 runs off at the beginning of the roll on race in the video). Then, when the ZX14R starts magically gaining out of no where and stomps the hell out of the ZX10 on top end; it looks like the ZX14 may have finally shifted into 4th gear where the timing is no longer retarded and the engine's performance is no longer restricted for safety's sake. This is just a guess on my part from what I've read about the 2012 model.


* Last updated by: jetmechanic on 6/6/2012 @ 11:10 PM *

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Romans


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RE: what the heck !!!!!
06/07/12 5:38 AM

I heard that the 2012 ZX14R has a built in safety mode that kills timing

Timing ? I do believe the secondary throttle plates close and cuts over 30 HP. All in the Brock Report. So, plates out and the world is good. No ?

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