Still on the Healtech tip; looking for feedback on their quickshifter setup...anyone have one?
Heard anything about their product?

I would only go top of the line on this. The Healtech is as cheap as I have seen but it might still be top notch. I like that you can program variable kill times / rpm. One thing I can tell you is that the gen1 responds very differently to to a single kill time at 4000 rpm than it does at 10000 rpm. I would probably go with a quickshifter that has the most adjustment parameters as is available. To my knowledge that's the HM GP. Big bucks.

I'd seek out some testimonials on quickshifters with the 14 before choosing one. My feeling is that the gearbox is too big and clunky to rely on input from people who use quickshifters on smaller bikes. It's disappointing for a drag race motorcycle to not have a super slick gearbox but I do not believe ours is. 60 mls is awful damned demanding for high rpm clutchless shifts and that's about average. 90 mls, I think your safe but you can clutch shift faster than that. I have not fully investigated all adaptations to make a quickshifter work like it should yet but I can tell you, an EVO shift star makes no difference. There is a quickshifter utility in the PC5 if you can get that to work with whatever shifter you buy (I have info on that). Next is GP shift and if that doesn't help a lot my only option is to go to a very expensive quickshifter and pray it's as great as they claim. If that doesn't work adequately, I can only assume an electric or air shifter is the way to go and there is some module Romans used with that to make it perfect.

WHatever you use, keep in mind that kill time starts as soon as the sensor detects pressure on the lever. If your foot can't make the shift as fast as the kill time you will miss the shift and that's plain sickening when it slams back down a gear at high rpm. You will chip shift dogs.

Clutchless downshifts would be awesome. HM GP. You need to use some additional electronic item to downshift.

ROOK!!!!!
Don't you have an HM setup?

I have experience with the Bazazz ZFi TC QS setup on a previous ZX10R I owned. Fantastic system. Fuel management, traction control and quick shifter all in one. Variable gear specific kill times for the QS and adjustable traction control etc. Worked flawlessly. It is available as a quick shift stand alone unit called QS4.

Don't you have an HM setup?

Sure do. The HM Plus. More bike porn for ya.

I have experience with the Bazazz ZFi TC QS setup on a previous ZX10R I owned. Fantastic system. Fuel management, traction control and quick shifter all in one. Variable gear specific kill times for the QS and adjustable traction control etc. Worked flawlessly. It is available as a quick shift stand alone unit called QS4.

As mentioned before, you can access the PC5's quickshifter utility to do a fuel cut for a QS. You can do an ignition cut if you have DJ ignition capability or you can do fuel and ignition cut if you want. You will need a quickshifter that makes a switch to ground that you can wire to your PC5...I do not know if all quickshifters work this way...I suspect the HM Plus does but have not tested that yet. HM does make the HM Plus PC for plug and play to the PC5-- available in the UK---IDK if you can get them in the US.

http://www.hmracing.co.uk/shop/hm-quickshifter-pc/

DJ also makes a QS designed for plug and play to the PC5. Kinda big solenoid. I don't care as much for the vertical mounting but should work as good as horizontal. A note of interest, according to DJ, they have no knowledge of the HM Plus PC or any shifter that works with the PC5 other than their proprietary shifter.

Anyways, the PC5's built in QS function should get you all the features of the Bazzaz QS which is also an excellent unit. The standalone Bazzaz shift box sounds like an excellent, easy way to get control over a less capable shifter. I would consider it but if you end up spending as much as an HM GP ----get that awesome GP and get a clutchless downshift relay. zing BRRRRRR-zing BRRRRRRR!!

I'll be doing real work with my PC5 and HM Plus this summer but for now, you can see the adjustments are many: rpm, gear, ignition cut, fuel cut, shift interval. Check step 29, gear calibration; step 30, Quickshifter Configuration.

http://zx14ninjaforum.com/messages.cfm?threadid=129B662B-CA75-AB2F-EB394CD496563332

From the video I watched with Brian Van the Man, it looks like the Healtech provides similar control. I do not see a sensor on that shifter and BV's video is too damn long to watch in entirety....my question would be how does the healtech sense a shift is being made??? A strain gauge like HM or DJ is state of the art. The PC5 quickshifter utility depends on a strain gauge and I'm sure the QS4 does as well.

* Last updated by: Rook on 4/19/2018 @ 4:47 PM *

See the GRIP at the end of this video. You're ignition will get cut on downshifts too. I guess as long as you blip first and don't push too hard on the shift lever, that might be ok. I'm really curious what knid of sensor this thing has. Sounds like he's pretty happy with it overall.

One more tidbit on quickshifters--they all work by connecting inline with the stikj coils and the stick coil leads. You have a wire loom under there along with everything else (mine looks like a rat's nest). You load the shift lever and the QS triggers an ignition cut at the coils. If you use the PC5 quickshifter feature, there is no loom to the coils. The shifter sends the signal to the PC5 which cuts fuel. If you want to cut ignition instead or addition to, you need to add the Ignition Module to the DJ network and it will cut ignition with one lead connector inline with the stick coil subharness and the main wiring harness. Still you have more wires but not as bad as a loom with 4 connectors. IDK why all manufacturers don't do it the way DJ does. You're going to want to cut ignition to all coils so why not cut them all at the source?

The PC5+Ignition would have probably been the best way to go if you were going to do this. I believe it has all the features of the PC5 and the ignition Module but it's cheaper. One drawback I see is the PC5+Ignition would have fewer switch inputs than a separate PC5 and Ignition Module. if you want switches.

Thanks GPFAN!
ROOK!!!!
If you look at the pics of the Healtech QS parts, there is a strange looking ring at the end of a lead. Perhaps that is a magnetic trigger of sorts? That the shift rod goes through and there is some tape or sleeve that is around the shift rod that trips said ring sensor?
Dude. That bike is SICK!!!! Dont think the race style probolts under the seat there escaped my gaze-freak! HAH
YEAH, that HM install is very sanitary of course. Nice work on that.

If you look at the pics of the Healtech QS parts, there is a strange looking ring at the end of a lead. Perhaps that is a magnetic trigger of sorts?

Dude. That bike is SICK!!!! Dont think the race style probolts under the seat there escaped my gaze-freak! HAH
YEAH, that HM install is very sanitary of course. Nice work on that.

* Last updated by: Rook on 4/25/2018 @ 9:31 PM *