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Thread: Amtrak Auto Train from FL to VA, then Skyline Dr, BRP, Dragon etc & ride back to FL

Created on: 10/07/15 01:19 PM

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Amtrak Auto Train from FL to VA, then Skyline Dr, BRP, Dragon etc and ride back to FL
10/07/15 1:19 PM

Orlando > Skyline Drive > Blue Ridge Parkway > Tail of the Dragon > FL

Fri Sept 4, 2015 two buds and I rode to Sanford FL where Amtrak's Auto Train departs for Lorton VA. The Auto Train is an overnight train trip that takes you and your motorcycle for $302 each (cars $60 more I think). It departs at 4 pm and arrives at 9 am the next morning. Dinner and breakfast included. Our train was an hour late leaving, but still made it on time somehow. I assume some kind of magic was performed while I slept.

You can choose a chair, a 2-person cabin, or a larger fancier cabin. 1 bud decided to sleep in a chair, while the other and I shared a cabin. The cabin is teeny tiny only 1 person can stand in it and nowhere to even walk around; the other must stay seated or wait outside the room if one wants to stand up. And when both are seated your knees are almost touching. When it's bed time you pull down the bunk's bed, and then climb 2 stairs to get up there, and then secure a net from the edge of the bed to the ceiling, so you don't fall out while bounding down the tracks during the night. The amount of room left once there are 2 beds is so small you have hardly any room for any stuff. I had to put my luggage on the bed with me. We hung some things from a hook on the wall using bungees I brought along. It wasn't as bad as I'm making it sound, but don't expect to bring much with you! Found a pic ... this is all there is!

No pics, but the next car in front of ours had quite a few dining tables, which were spacious like a normal 4-person dining table should be, so we spent a lot of our awake time there. Also, the view out the train window was not as interesting as I thought it'd be. Pretty boring actually. Not sure what I was expecting. Bigfoot?

When the train stopped in Lorton at 9 am the next morning, we unloaded our bikes & rode 70 mi to Front Royal VA which is the N end of Skyline Drive, a limited access, slow speed (35 mph) scenic road through the lower Great Smoky Mountains of VA, similar to the Blue Ridge Parkway but shorter mountains / lower elevations. Our bikes at the first scenic overlook we decided to stop at on Skyline Drive:

Overlook #2 somewhere on Skyline Dr. A nice Harley dude offered to snap our pic:

Then we rode the entire 109-mi Skyline Dr to Waynesboro, VA and stayed at a "Quality" Inn ;) there.

The S end of Skyline Dr runs right into the N end of the 469-mi also limited access, also slow speed (45 mph) scenic Blue Ridge Parkway, so the next morning Sun Sept 6 we began riding the BRP, headed for the very southern end of it in Cherokee NC. Here's our first scenic overlook on the BRP:

Sun nite we stayed the night in this little 5-bed bunkhouse (at center) at Willville Motorcycle Campground in the little town of Meadows of Dan on the BRP. Spartan room but clean, and friendly folks. This seemingly little cabin has five single beds! Man & his daughter there on the porch next to us, with their bike parked under the shelter:

Poor bikes had to sleep outside:

Willville's nice big pavilion with picnic tables & fireplace, and to the right in the background is the campfire area, with quite a few bikers staying in tents:

Part of Willville's camping area (a little stream behind me here):

Mon morn breakfast at the Mabry Mill restaurant right on the BRP close to Willville:

Mon after breakfast we crossed from VA into NC on the BRP and ate lunch at the Switzerland Cafe in Little Switzerland NC (bike at left wasn't with us):

Mon mid afternoon we stopped at the Mt Mitchell overlook:

Somewhere along the BRP:

Another BRP scenic overlook, no idea which one. Yawn, ho-hum, another fantastic view of miles of mountains & valleys:

Mon nite, we had the two 2-bed cabins at left at the Blue Ridge Motorcycle Campground. Also spartan-but-clean rooms ... just fine for sleeping and then resuming the ride:

Tues noon stopped at the highest pt on the BRP, over a mile above sea level:

Tues, another overlook, starting to rain for the first time:

By Tues afternoon we had completed the entire BRP ... which was my main goal ... and then headed for Deal's Gap, which is where the Tail of the Dragon starts. There's a single gas station with 14 motel rooms and a restaurant. We got room number lucky 13. Another nice, clean place, although no cell coverage! We stayed here 2 nights:

Ridin' the Dragon:

And again ... we rode it a bunch!

Zoom I like ... sorry!

At the north end of the Dragon is a scenic overlook where many of the tired racers, I mean riders, stop to rest & talk:

Cheoah Dam is nearby. Stopping on a bridge? Sure, why not:

... and the Fontana Dam, which is surprisingly dilapidated; lots of cracks and shifted concrete = scary! This thing is way, way bigger than it looks here ... it's a looooong way down to that water:

After Deal's Gap, we stayed in Maggie Valley NC for our last nite. And after racing, I mean riding, the Dragon, I was checking my bike over and found that I had worn thru the rubber to the belt on the rear tire. And my front tire also getting very smooth and weird shaped, so my fun in any more curves was over until we could ride (delicately) over to Greenville SC to get new ones installed ... but since we headed home after that I didn't get to enjoy them in any curves. Next time :)

After new tires, we rode straight thru from Greenville back to FL and got home at midnight Fri Sep 11 ... about 8 days total, and exactly 2,020 miles.

Here's a 2.5-min video the FJR rider put together:


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RE: Amtrak Auto Train from FL to VA, then Skyline Dr, BRP, Dragon etc & ride back to FL
10/07/15 3:33 PM

That's just SOOO cool.Glad ya made er through and safe.Thanks Extrap!....One day...one day;)


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RE: Amtrak Auto Train from FL to VA, then Skyline Dr, BRP, Dragon etc & ride back to FL
10/07/15 8:47 PM

That looks like really a great trip, and the bikes look great too!.

Sucks we don't have anything like that on the west coast. An auto train from LA to Seattle would be an awesome trip


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RE: Amtrak Auto Train from FL to VA, then Skyline Dr, BRP, Dragon etc & ride back to FL
10/07/15 10:42 PM

Thanks GRN. It sure is a good time

cruderudy - Thanks, and I agree: I can't believe there's only one Auto Train route. Just can't believe there are no others that would be profitable


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RE: Amtrak Auto Train from FL to VA, then Skyline Dr, BRP, Dragon etc & ride back to FL
10/12/15 9:23 AM

Sucks we don't have anything like that on the west coast. An auto train from LA to Seattle would be an awesome trip


Yeah but WE have Highway 1. Who needs a train?

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RE: Amtrak Auto Train from FL to VA, then Skyline Dr, BRP, Dragon etc & ride back to FL
10/12/15 10:16 AM

Bingo ... LA to Seattle. How can that not already be one??

Something that dawned on me that mattered for us ... and might matter for others: Remember I said our train left late, about an hour. Well, travelers have to arrive 2 hrs ahead for check-in, and for us it's a 2-hr ride to the FL Auto Train, in the 'wrong' direction of where we were headed (S, instead of N), and it left an hour late. So as we were sitting there on the train wondering why it was taking so long to depart (eventually they told us some door wasn't closing right) ... which seems like it shouldn't matter but every minute that went by felt like another minute of riding curvy roads we'd lose! ... so it dawned on me that with all those hours involved in getting on the Auto Train, those were 5 hours we could've spent riding toward VA! 5 hours will get you a LONG way. And then you're not at the mercy of a late departing train. And you can stop whenever & wherever the heck you feel like it. Well, so, those are some pro's of riding the route. Now, some cons: More miles on the bike that would just be droning highway miles. And we'd be tired when we got there. For us, it's about a 12-hr ride from FL to Front Royal VA where the N end of Skyline Drive starts. Remember, the goal was to ride all of Skyline Drive and the BRP.

I have no desire to ride Skyline Drive again. It was fine, glad I did it, but once was enough: It's lower than the BRP, flatter than the BRP, slower speed limit (35) than the BRP (45), and they actually charge a toll(!) for it ($15!!!), whereas the faster, higher, better BRP is free!



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RE: Amtrak Auto Train from FL to VA, then Skyline Dr, BRP, Dragon etc & ride back to FL
10/12/15 11:55 AM

I posted the following video at the bottom of my original post above:


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RE: Amtrak Auto Train from FL to VA, then Skyline Dr, BRP, Dragon etc & ride back to FL
10/13/15 8:20 AM

Thanks for the video.. Never been on the east coast but it is definitely on hte list...

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RE: Amtrak Auto Train from FL to VA, then Skyline Dr, BRP, Dragon etc & ride back to FL
10/13/15 1:11 PM

Great post, thank you! Yeah, I am with you Mad, would love to have this option here on the West Coast....as it is, this post got my mind going about a ship/fly/ride trip next year! Looks like somewhere between $500 and $700 will put my bike almost anywhere in the US...hmmm...possibilities are endless!



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Amtrak Auto Train from FL to VA, then Skyline Dr, BRP, Dragon etc & ride back to FL
08/16/17 7:52 PM

Redux forthcoming!! ... sorta.

Same 3, plus 1 more, are heading from FL to the NC mountains again in September!

We'll be a ZX14R (me, of course), a 2002 ZRX1200 and two FJR1300's (1 had the black Kawi C14 on the previous trip, and the other still has the FJR seen in the pics)

No Auto Train this time, though, unfortunately. Some of our group don't have enough time off to do the while Skyline Drive / Blue Ridge Parkway route again, so we're trailering 2 bikes up (mine & the ZRX), and the 2 FJRs are riding up. About 400 miles to the first night's stay in Helen, GA then Suches > Cherohala Skyway > Deal's Gap > Tail of the Dragon > Blue Ridge Parkway > Maggie Valley > then ... Hmmm ... not sure where yet. The 2 FJR guys like route planning, and I'm more than willing to let them have it. They're good at it. and I'm lazy So it'll be a little bit of a surprise.

Pics and info coming in a month or so.



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RE: Amtrak Auto Train from FL to VA, then Skyline Dr, BRP, Dragon etc & ride back to FL
08/16/17 7:57 PM

By the way, when something exciting like this is on the horizon, I find myself wanting to loosen the purse strings and BUY STUFF to make the trip even mo' betta ... like, oh I dunno, a new bike! Alas, NOPE. There is still no bike I like better than the Big ZX

No other bikes are even kinda tempting me. I'm either gettin' old ... or the Big ZX is, well, the shit.



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RE: Amtrak Auto Train from FL to VA, then Skyline Dr, BRP, Dragon etc & ride back to FL
09/12/17 7:55 PM

I've been looking into this trip arrangement, maybe next year I'll take my bike to visit friends in Florida during bike week.

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