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Thread: 1st Gear Clunkiness Anyone??

Created on: 04/24/22 07:15 PM

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OhioKawiMW


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1st Gear Clunkiness Anyone??
04/24/22 7:15 PM

If this has already been covered, so very sorry. But I was wondering if anyone else experiences a very rough 1st gear engagement from neutral. I have had a very hard clunk and even a grind a couple of times. It seems to be at its worst when the bike is warming up, and I hit 1st to start out on my ride. My bike is still in break in, so perhaps it gets better with more miles?

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RE: 1st Gear Clunkiness Anyone??
04/24/22 8:23 PM

Completely normal for the ZX14. Make sure your clutch system doesn't have any air in it.
Called the "Kawasaki Clunk"

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RE: 1st Gear Clunkiness Anyone??
04/24/22 11:02 PM

Unfortunately, it a forever. You see, the one [output] transmission shaft is constantly turning with the engine. The other [output] shaft is connect to the rear wheel via chain. The clunk is when a sliding gear enters a spinning gear as it enters 1st gear.

For the clutch workings, the big clutch outer runs with the engine, the clutch inner spins with the engine [when in N], but when you pull the clutch in, the inner is still spinning; but once you step on 1st, the clunk, then the clutch inner stops spinning.

Does not matter new, well broken in, or a high miler, it's the spinning, noisy mechanics of the bike and that gear separation method. You won't find any posts about 1st gear replacements; so there really is no worry about.

For the clunk; I start in 1st, then slowly take off and let the bike pull me at idle to warm up. No clunk. 20k or so miles, if the traffic light is short, I hold the lever in and am always in 1st if it calls for a stop. No clunk. If I think I'm making heat, clutch in, not transfer of plate to plate for heat dissipation, I still catch N as if new.

Take it for what it worth... propane torched a new steel clutch plate, discolored blue and all, put it on a surface plate and notice no warp. So I figured if that plate takes the kind of heat, then a steel plate will never see kind of heat with my long holds, doubt it will turn color with the oil feed it gets anyway.



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RE: 1st Gear Clunkiness Anyone??
04/25/22 1:34 PM

All I know is if it does not clunk then I must have no 1st gear left but then it is the same way with my ZRX and FJR.



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RE: 1st Gear Clunkiness Anyone??
04/26/22 9:53 AM

I agree with everyone else and this has been discussed a jillion times so don't worry about a clunk. I used to roll the bike forward while clicking to 1st gear and that helped soften the clunk a lot. I never heard a grind though. ...maybe if you tried to engage 1st gear very gently?



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OhioKawiMW


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RE: 1st Gear Clunkiness Anyone??
04/27/22 6:05 PM

Thanks for all the info fellas, sounds like nothing to worry about then. :)

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pegscraper



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RE: 1st Gear Clunkiness Anyone??
05/01/22 5:07 PM

My 2012 has been like it from new but it's no big deal. Don't be afraid to be positive with the lever and never try to use a "light touch" to engage. My 1000RX and ZX10 from the 80's were the same. A "clunk" = solid strong gearbox IMO. The slickest box I've ever used was on a 1990 GSXR1100 I owned back in the day.

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