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Created on: 10/02/11 01:05 AM

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BcVulcan


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Busted my oil pan
10/02/11 1:05 AM

What a crappy end to a good day. I'm working in La. for a few weeks so I loaded my bike in the truck and brought it with me. After a 300 mile ride today, I pulled out of a parking lot with a huge drop off. Busted my oil pan wide open. I have no real choice but to take it to a local dealership. So tell me, what am I looking at here???$$$

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BcVulcan


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RE: Busted my oil pan
10/02/11 1:43 AM

OK. I just looked at Ron Ayers, and see I can get the pan, gasket and a new plug for about 150.00 plus shipping. Is that all I will need as long as the bolts are still OK? I've never removed an oil pan. Not sure what all it involves. I don't have any stands with me either. I'll look at it more closely tomorrow. Any advice will be greatly appreciated.

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Hub


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RE: Busted my oil pan
10/02/11 2:30 AM

1. Sump cover
2. Gasket for cover
3. Bolt ~ drain
4. Drain washer
5. Exhaust gaskets - qt 4

Gotta look at the pan's corners, and/or straights; to see if they concaved. If so, then possibly, so are those bolts. Only PITA besides no stand, the breather and pickup tubes kind of fall out. Try to catch how they are positioned as they drop down. They will stay in place once you push them back in place. Other than that... Piece of cake. Install the gasket dry. Make sure the case side is spotlessly clean of any gasket material and oil residue before installing the gasket.



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EZX


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RE: Busted my oil pan
10/02/11 7:22 AM

Old School Racing oil pan. www.osrbikes.com


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BcVulcan


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RE: Busted my oil pan
10/02/11 1:38 PM

Thanks for reminding about the exhaust gaskets. Forgot about those. After looking at it in the light of day, I see that the drain plug is sheered clean off. The rest of the pan was never touched. So bolts are gonna be fine. Will the radiator have to come off to remove the exhaust? Also, not sure what you mean by breather and pickup tubes. I'll search for a pic somewhere. Thanks for the help.

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privateer


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RE: Busted my oil pan
10/02/11 9:29 PM

When you lower your pan, crack it lose just a bit and shine a light in, see how the pickup etc. is. Only one way to put it back together, so don't force it. Shop manual shows nice diagram too. Can download a shop manual from this forum, it is sticky-ed at the top of General I think.

When you put the bolts back in that hold the pan (a bunch, forget number) I recommend you use one of those sockets with a small diameter screwdriver handle on it, not a ratchet. The block is aluminum, and you don't want to overtighten.

I only used three fingers to tighten each bolt, and did them radially like you'd tighten a car wheel, one side, opposite, 90 degrees, repeat, and radially around.

Then using the same socket I snugged each one in the same pattern, with all my fingers. Then took the smallest ratchet I have (it is only 6" long) and gave about an 1/8th of a turn on each.

That pan never seeped, nor has any of the bolts come loose. I still check it every winter anyway.

If I had used a torque wrench I may have overturned a few bolts before the wrench clicked. I've got a small beam wrench now, that reads low enough for that sort of thing, if I have to do it again.


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Rook


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RE: Busted my oil pan
10/02/11 9:54 PM

Will the radiator have to come off to remove the exhaust?

Some will say "NO" but I think it is worth the extra effort. You ill need to drain and refill/bleed the cooling system.

If you don't remove the radiator, you will have to tilt the bottom forward at least. Not much room between headers and rad. Kind of risky to punch in some fins on the back of the rad. If you are not really familiar, it is best to just take the rad off, IMHO....so you can see what you are doing and not damage the rad..



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Hub


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RE: Busted my oil pan
10/02/11 10:05 PM

You will see a bottom brace on the left side of the radiator. Remove that. Since the bolts that hold the top of the radiator are rubber mounted, leave those alone. Simply swing the lower radiator toward the front wheel. Take a bungee, hook that into the lower brace hole. Make taught the radiator but do not over tweak and watch your upper hit points on the swing up.

For safe banging, take heavy paper or thin cardboard sheet, tape that over the back of the radiator. This way, you tag the radiator fin, you hit that paper cushion. Let the header float in your hand; watch your tag [bang] points.



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Grn14


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RE: Busted my oil pan
10/06/11 12:26 AM

Maybe I'm stooopid here..but WTF?All he needs to do is get an easy out and back that sheered bolt out.He isn't gonna use it again,so damaging the part that's left isn't gonna matter too much.Could always take er to a welding shop and have em weld a usable 'piece' on there to spin that bolt out.He said nothin about hitting the pipes.Why are ya tellin him to remove the Rad and all that?Long as it didn't hit....what's the point?He already said the bolt was sheared,not that the pan is damaged(or the pipes)(even if that little protective cast piece is broken off..it still won't hurt anything to leave it that way)..Not tryin to be smart azz here,but.....if YOUR bolt was sheared off,would YOU go through all that to replace a bolt?I wouldn't.Not if everything else like the gasket seal at the front was okay.No cracks in the pan...I'd leave it.Just sayin.IF he smacked the exhaust enough to jam it backwards or something...yeah...check it good.He didn't say it hit the exhaust.Apparently it didn't,cause the pan wasn't even scratched!Nor did he say it hit the lower radiator area.Go ahead...Flame on!

"Easy out" that bolt BC....you'll be glad you did!

If it were me...I'd make sure your rear shock lower mount is okay.Maybe that got hit as well.Seriously.No damage to the pan surface means there wasn't any upward pressure pushing on the motor.I'd say...everything is fine except the bolt replacement.


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BcVulcan


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RE: Busted my oil pan
10/06/11 1:45 AM

The pan is toast. I was only saying that it was not bent so the bolts were ok. U could out your whole thumb through the hole it made. Unfortunately due to my work here and lack of Jacob.g a stand or decent tools with me, I let a shop just accross the street from my hotel do it for me. He overnightrd the parts and I was riding the next day. Sometimes peace of mind is worth a lot. Thanks for all the help anyway.

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Grn14


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RE: Busted my oil pan
10/06/11 1:58 AM

Okay...glad that worked for ya.If it was a simple sheared bolt...ya....but a broken pan....Hub and Rook's way would be the best I'd say.I just try to avoid doing extra on MY bike if I don't think I need to.But I generally follow the book and all that.Cut corners once in a while.But some stuff...you just can't.

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RE: Busted my oil pan
10/08/11 1:43 AM

Just read my last post. I hate android auto text...

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