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Created on: 12/17/15 01:43 AM

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zx video
12/17/15 1:43 AM

Good video of zx10, zx14, h2. Head to head.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4ep4uIxhtY
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RE: zx video
12/17/15 10:44 AM

Nice find billy. Very interesting

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RE: zx video
12/17/15 10:44 AM

Nice find billy. Very interesting

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RE: zx video
12/17/15 1:21 PM

Cool Vid Billy...Thanks!

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RE: zx video
12/17/15 1:22 PM

good vid. Nothing too surprising according to all I've heard. I am a little surprised at the nearly identical stopping distance.



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RE: zx video
12/17/15 1:34 PM

Yeah...I'll say..the KIBS ABS system on the H2 does allow some wheel skipping.I think that's what that guy was talking about with the H2 he was riding.Just takes practice getting the feel of it really.Whereas the 14...it stops straight and without drama...even when fully braked.(with ABS that is).

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RE: zx video
12/17/15 5:07 PM

Interesting vid, thanks for posting. My take away was the 14R was close to the H2 and the 10R a bit behind the group except in the tight corners.

I'm keeping the '14 14R and saving up for the 2016 10R (I wish..)



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RE: zx video
12/17/15 5:39 PM

Thanks for posting !! cool stuff.

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RE: zx video
12/17/15 6:17 PM

Good find, worth watching but once again a lot of mealy mouth slobber jawing avoiding what is what. The skinny guys lead in about 14R being something that should be on rails is boringly tiresome. Another moron who perceives it's 100% drag bike when he only understands about 25% of what a 14R can do. Yes, it's got a big motor, yes it'll go really fast really fast, and yes it's got swoopy bodywork, and yes it'll travel in a straight line. It'll also turn, as he/they found out. Unfortunately I'm sure 5 minutes post facto his perception reverted back to "drag bike".

Overall it seemed to me 14R was the fastest accelerating generally. During testing, they kind of talk like it, then in the wrap-up the once again elude to it. They keep saying how the H2 feels fastest, but stating it just feels faster means it's not the fastest.

Re handling they said H2 took more effort to turn than the 14 or 10. The 10 being the obvious choice if you're serious about being on a track and picking one of these 3 bikes. They repeatedly stated how surprised how capable and indeed how agile the 14 was. It hides it's weight extremely well, they seemed to credit the suspension. I concur, this thing will boogy woogy around some turns. It's no 600 or 1000, but it'll boogy woogy.

All 3 are great bikes of course. H2 is blingy with balls to back it up. We all know what the 14R, for some of us it's a really good drag bike, for some of us a show bike, for some of us a bike with no chicken strip, ground off touchdown sensors and scraped body work. All I can say is the ones not scraping the pegs... they got no idea what they're missing.

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RE: zx video
12/17/15 7:02 PM

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RE: zx video
12/17/15 9:27 PM

I'd only kinda disagree on the handling.My H2 outhandles my 14 by a lot.It's easier to setup,and adjust in a corner.And it's VERY solid.I never get a feeling it's gonna step out or even reach any limit.My 14?I don't have that same amount of confidence...hence the non scraped bodywork and pegs.But I know it WILL do that...I'm just not feeling it.Probably age and prior wrecks stop me from going all in with either bike.They also mentioned the ability of the 14 to be an all day rider bike...comfort wise.Which it is.But I have to say...I've ridden my H2(with my reshaped seat)all day lots of times...and NEVER felt any discomfort.I don't think it would be quite that way with a stock seat on it.The suspension is very adjustable.It's not harsh or anything to me.It's totally comparable to my 14.Which most won't agree with.When it had the factory settings...yes...it was a bit rough at times.But I dialed all that out.
It has a bit of an 'edge' to it...unlike the 14,but that only(IMO)enhances the overall experience of it.


I'll say...just sitting on my 14...and moving the bars,or at very slow speed,it feels lighter than my H2.BUT,it definitely takes more to work the 14 around stuff at anything above 5 mph or so.The H2 gets a much lighter feel once it's above those low speeds...anything above 2-3 mph.Definitely lighter(steering wise) feeling than my 14.


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RE: zx video
12/18/15 3:20 AM

Thank you for the assist Hub!



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RE: zx video
12/18/15 6:23 AM



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RE: zx video
12/18/15 4:45 PM

I'd only kinda disagree on the handling.My H2 outhandles my 14 by a lot.It's easier to setup,and adjust in a corner.And it's VERY solid.I never get a feeling it's gonna step out or even reach any limit.My 14?I don't have that same amount of confidence...hence the non scraped bodywork and pegs.But I know it WILL do that...I'm just not feeling it.Probably age and prior wrecks stop me from going all in with either bike.They also mentioned the ability of the 14 to be an all day rider bike...comfort wise.Which it is.But I have to say...I've ridden my H2(with my reshaped seat)all day lots of times...and NEVER felt any discomfort.I don't think it would be quite that way with a stock seat on it.The suspension is very adjustable.It's not harsh or anything to me.It's totally comparable to my 14.Which most won't agree with.When it had the factory settings...yes...it was a bit rough at times.But I dialed all that out.
It has a bit of an 'edge' to it...unlike the 14,but that only(IMO)enhances the overall experience of it.


I'll say...just sitting on my 14...and moving the bars,or at very slow speed,it feels lighter than my H2.BUT,it definitely takes more to work the 14 around stuff at anything above 5 mph or so.The H2 gets a much lighter feel once it's above those low speeds...anything above 2-3 mph.Definitely lighter(steering wise) feeling than my 14.

I'd be willing to bet an H2 would make it around most road course tracks than a 14R, despite anything they say. I don't recall hearing them say they thought the H2 was slower during the road course test, just not as settled as the 10 or 14. And as far as this comparison, again they don't really state or show anything definitive. It's fun to watch, has a very small amount of information that's subject to a lot of interpretation.

Who knows, these guys for what appear to be professional reviewers seems more like Top Gear than Sport Rider.

On the other hand, I've found the complete lack of any quarter mile times from the H2 hints at something. Extremely fast? Yes... the fastest in the 1/4? no, stock anyway.


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