Hello

I know that there are very good stands out there, but where I come from the choices are very limited
(unless you pay 400$ for shipping)

There is an option to buy this stand here
http://www.unit-products.com/road/b2210.html

anyone with ZX14 have expirience with it ?

Thanks
omatza

* Last updated by: omatza on 6/16/2017 @ 1:34 AM *

No never tried that stand but it probably is strong enough. I would be most concerned about the safety of lifting with any rear handle stand. You will have to hold the bike by the tail with one hand so the bike is vertical and then engage the spools before you lift it. The 14 is pretty heavy for that. Most people who use this type of stand put a piece of wood under the kickstand so the bike is almost vertical before they engage the spools. If you can also get a wheel chock to hold the bike vertical, that would be best.

I use a stand very much like the one you are looking at. I agree with Rook, it is a little tricky balancing the bike with one hand and engaging the stand with the other but you get used to it.

The one thing that I would do is buy a set of swing arm spools and buy the "U" brackets for the stand. They would be much more secure than the "L" brackets. The ZX14 swing arm is designed to take spools.

yes.
This is exactly what I taught.
That the spools one should be better due to the weight of the ZX14. Isn' it ?
Do someone of you use L type and can say something about it ?

The problem is that they offer me here is only the L type with the spools connections if I want.
I saw on the website that the height of the L type is 325mm and the height of the spools one is 360 mm
http://www.unit-products.com/road/image/b2210_detail05.jpg
vs
http://www.unit-products.com/road/image/b2220_detail05.jpg

Thanks a lot
omatza

that stand looks rather short, am not sure whether you can get enough leverage to lift up a heavy bike like the zx14... unless you add a lifting extension perhaps

L brackets must be for lifting under the swing arm. I have never tried such a stand. It seems like it would work but I was advised against using this type of stand with the 14 because of the size of the bike. Spools are the way to go. The higher the stand, the less leverage you have to push the handle down. A cm or two can make a huge difference. I have adjustable height lifting forks on my Pit Bull and it is much easier to lift at the lowest setting than it is raising the forks a quarter inch. Stock pipes are another issue. I could barely lift the back of my busa with stock exhaust even when the Pit Bull stand was at the lowest setting.

I always recommend a swing arm pivot stand like the Abba for easy, safe lifting. Heindl is fine too but Abba looks better.

* Last updated by: Rook on 6/16/2017 @ 10:55 AM *

Thanks Rook
I bought an Abba stand, but it stuck in England
(I sent to the son of my friend (that live in UK), but they both were not responsible and that thing lost).
the pit-bull stand is great but it cost 330$ to ship it (and if stuck in the custom, I will pay 250$ more)

so I ask about this specific option that I have.

I wish I was living in some place normal, where you can ride on tracks and buy parts and bikes for reasonable prices :-(

where do you live?

Before adding the Kawi centerstand to my ZX14R I used a rear stand on spools for a short time. I got pretty good at putting a bike on a rear stand with my previous Honda RC51. What I do is stand on the left side and use my knee just a little bit against the bike. The knee just adds a little stabilization ... you and the bike are more like one. You can even put your knee against the muffler (if it isn't hot!), just don't let too much weight on. The short distance between your knee and the ground provides for a pretty stable assistant. So I'm almost never holding the bike with just 1 hand.

Something to think about.

I use a stand like that with L brackets.

It's no problem at all, works great. Go for it.

Used for years on many different bikes never a problem
and bikes don't have to have spools. I help people
Work on their bikes and most don't have stands, spools
or anyway to lift their bike.

L bracket or spools, always put a board under the
kickstand to hold bike a little more upright. Makes
it easy then to pick it up. I use a couple of cut furring strips
Using a board under kickstand you do not even have
to hold the bike, just pick it up with the stand.

Unit makes some nice products, but they are not available
in the US.

* Last updated by: piken on 6/16/2017 @ 10:49 PM *

Only pic I have using L bracket stand on my 14
Usually use for quick chain lubes.

* Last updated by: piken on 6/16/2017 @ 10:43 PM *

islandninja - I am from Israel.
piken - you are the only one here, so far, that use L type :-)
thanks for the photo.
(do you have a closer view (maybe from the caliper side) ?
what are those white long things in the picture ?

I remember when I first bought race stands and how scary it was to put such a large bike up safely on them. Now its a breeze.
Don't worry, with a bit of practice it will be the same for you. Just be very careful in your early efforts until you find the way that works for you.
I know all have their own ways and opinions and none are wrong, but personally I would only use bobbins and U shaped stands on the rear (very secure and much less chance of not being locked in correctly) and L types on the front only.
Just my 2 cent worth...

* Last updated by: yannih on 6/17/2017 @ 4:06 AM *

best if you could get someone to hold the bike for you, on your first attempts... i personally prefer never to do it alone

Just be very careful in your early efforts until you find the way that works for you.

best if you could get someone to hold the bike for you, on your first attempts... i personally prefer never to do it alone

When it comes time to lower the rear back to the floor, you will need to be extra diligent about safety because it will probably almost drop the last couple inches (unless you are Superman). You will need to have your extra guy and/or blocks of wood set up.

I have two rear stands. Both stabilize the bike vertical while both of the bike's tires are on the floor as long as firm pressure is held down on the handle of the stand. That is the key to safety. If you let up on the handle, the only thing holding the bike vertical will be your other hand on the tail. Do NOT let up on the handle while bike is vertical with both wheels on the floor...at least not until you are ready to take over for the stand in stabilizing the bike.

One thing that will be nice about L brackets is that you won't need to roll the stand around to the exact position required to engage spools.

what are those white long things in the picture ?

* Last updated by: Rook on 6/17/2017 @ 8:14 AM *

yannih - what year is this bike ?
Do you have closer view of the front lift ?

Thanks a lot for everyone, for all those good advices.
I was nver concern about how to lift the bike alone.
The issue was just if L type is safe enough (cause the L is rubber) for such a heavy bike.
(I think U is safer, but there is no option to buy it, here)

The issue was just if L type is safe enough (cause the L is rubber) for such a heavy bike.

I'm sure what that means is that the brackets are padded with rubber since they touch the bottom of the swing arm.

I just lowered mine. Remember to hold hard pressure down on the handle after the wheel comes down to the floor. That will hold it vertical as long as you keep firm pressure down. How you get it safely on it's side stand is up to you.