I have my quickshifter installed. Would like to test it out before putting fairings on. Would it be ok to run the engine in gear with the rear wheel up on my Pit Bull spool stand? basically what this guy is doing with his 675 there in the vid.

hey rook i dunno man I've had mine up and just let it run in gear at idle speed and i got a lot of chain bouncing lol

you can try it this way rook lmao

^^ahhhhhhh-- NO THANKS--saw that too. Looks a little risky.

..and now that you mention it, I too had mine on the stand and let it roll at idle in 1st gear. Got the same sorta chain lash. Thought that was because it was on a swing arm pivot stand and the suspension was carrying no weight.

I guess I will wait until warmer weather. I would need to to check/set the compression, sensitivity, kill time by the LCD before I ran it anyway. The LCD is nonfunctional below 0 Celsius which it is at the moment. I'd be satisfied the thing was probably working if I could see the display but at 17 F, she no do nothin.

the shifter does not function below -40 C but I don't think I'd be riding much in that weather anyway (that is also -40 in F) . LOL

The LCD's maximum temp is -7 F. I think that means it could be damaged. Have to ask the Annitori guys.

had to stick it on top of the PC. Wires not long enough to mount over to the right.

* Last updated by: Rook on 3/5/2012 @ 6:42 PM *

Ya ROOK...you can do that to your bike...you bet.Course,IF she somehow slips outta there...well....that's totally on you as well!!!!(I wouldn't).BTW...what kind of shifter IS that on your bike Rook?Looks kinda cool.....now you've got me thinkin

* Last updated by: Grn14 on 3/5/2012 @ 10:57 PM *

Grn, that's an HM PLUS strain gauge quickshifter. British product imported by Annitori Dist. Best deal is buy from Motomummy but for the extra 50-75 bucks, Annitori are great guys to work with very nice and responsive/knowledgeable on customer service questions.

The shifter is tiny and light but has some drawbacks too.
#1 the bike won't run if the shifter malfunctions.
#2 The shift linkage becomes a series of items and locknuts instead of just one on either end of the rod.
#3 The wire from the shifter sensor on the rod to the LCD module do not disconnect. Neither does the wire from the LCD module to the loom which attaches to the stick coils. So if something gets damaged after the loom, the whole thing prolly would need to be replaced and that is about 90% of the cost, I'm sure.

Seno has one of these on his 14r.

http://www.zx14ninjaforum.com/messages.cfm?threadid=335C2C0D-D56B-84E2-1AFD4EEBC43B62C5

* Last updated by: Rook on 3/7/2012 @ 3:24 PM *

I'd want something simple.That shifter looks about as simple as it gets....very nice and small.Paint it black....wouldn't even see it really.Think I'm gonna look into this deal here.She shifts crazy nice now however...so...IDK.Thanks Rook for the link and all .

* Last updated by: Grn14 on 3/7/2012 @ 11:26 PM *

no prob, Grn. While you're at it here's a lil mo reading materials for ya.

http://www.bikeland.org/board/viewthread.php?FID=27&TID=65157&pagenumber=2

tell ya the truth, I think this is a total frill with capitol F, frill. Nobody needs this on the street even if they do like to race. I believe this ads a couple one hundreths /second to your quarter mile. Pro track racers use this sort of set up for straightaways to keep their edge against near by competitors.

It is a super cool and fun gadget and the shifting sound gives me the chills its so cool. But NEED? NO WAY. Annitori has a shifter that is the same product except it has preset kill time and you have your choice of three sensitivities. It is about $300 instead of $500 but I am assured that it is set up to what 98% of all sportbikes will find optimum. Many racers cannot tell the dif. It does not come with the cool LCD module but other than that --same kinda thing.

Thanks Rook.I aint gonna get a shifter yet.Hell...I don't really need one.Cool little deal though.I don't know what it is about my new bike...but really,doing just above the speed limit on this baby is very enjoyable.Ya...the fast sweeps and such are fun....It just feels so much more 'solid' all around...the ride quality is very nice cruising and all.Holds a friggin line like she's on rails....no feeling of like,squirminess or run out.She leans right in and stays put....very nice.Having this slipper and all....shifting midturn and stuff is really a kick.Up OR down.Tires are workin just fine.Suspension's very very good.The feeling of wanting to accelerate through the curves is very enticing.She gets with it,but it doesn't FEEL like she's hauling.But she is.130,140 is no deal with this bike.She'll get right up there before ya even realize she's doing it.Very nice.With way gobs to spare.Definitely a nicer feeling with this baby leaned in than on my 07.There's a place(at least on mine) where the CG and body positioning are I'd have to say....optimum?IDK....it changes with speed and such(natch).But she's very well balanced and responsive to rider input...whether by the bars or by body positioning,or both.My 07 never felt this solid....or leanable.Or smooth.This thing's extremely smooth...I think that's what makes the speed seem so quick to 'get there'.The motor's definitely full of power...all the time.Up and downshifting can easily be done at almost any speed or gear combo.They really did a good job with this trans and clutch unit.Same with the brakes.You can't even feel the bike slowing through the lever or anything...I mean..you start to apply front brake...she just slows immediately with NO lever feel(vibes or anything).WAY smooth.I found myself braking with the front and not even thinking about it...it felt so natural.You don't need to start really grabbing to get a good decel going.She comes right down without any type of bumpiness or judder or anything.

The way the power shifts from gear to gear and throttling,it's pretty amazing.There is no hesitation or stumble or anything.You just shift and power out...she just keeps on pulling.With or without clutch.She'll shift down into 1st without clutching... practically all the way down through that particular rev range.It's very cool...and she doesn't slam at all when shifting down like that.You can cltuchless shift this bike and virtually keep the throttle pinned...except for a micro second of letting off(that's NOT closing the grip...just back enough to make the change) ...not even a thought process going on...just timing.

I'd have to say...that whatever they did in regards to 'upgrading' this transmission,it worked.With my 07,I could NOT downshift(clutchless)unless I first 'slightly' added positive throttle and then closed it.This bike....with throttle fully closed,she'll downshift without the clutch all day long...AND...without wheel hop or loss of traction.IDK if that slipper is actually making this happen,or what.But it's a serious improvement over my 07.And when she does downshift,the motor just immediately changes in rpm,and feels ready to rip again.It's very hard to explain.

* Last updated by: Grn14 on 3/9/2012 @ 12:08 AM *

GRN.. so if I'm reading it right your liking the new bike uh? lol

I like my shifter cause it purrtier lol and i just have to push a button to up/downshift I know Rook wouldn't like it cuz it weighs to much lol

All you are doing is finding out if the ignition cut on the box side will do its thing? A simple one gear to the next [use 2nd to 3rd], will tell you if the bike is wired as per. Those squids took chances at that rpm. JMO.

Hub, but is this gonna be sufficient? Without any resistance on the tire/motor. Im thinking the kill time on a stand would be less than if the tire was on the ground. Now of course I'm just speculating.

* Last updated by: scottjkyl on 3/9/2012 @ 8:15 AM *

This bike....with throttle fully closed,she'll downshift without the clutch all day long...

The HM PLUS does not provide for downshifts. They make one that does but it only connects to a special race ECU that is capable of causing an appropriate throttle blip. I'm sure it costs a pile of $$$

I know Rook wouldn't like it cuz it weighs to much lol

(BTW, those bottom rails on the tail frame come off and they weigh a pound/piece.)

loose where you can gain; where you need to. YOu will come out weighhhhhhhh ahead!

1. Flies off the stand... Okay, WOT are the odds? Less rpm for me.
2. Transmission lube not matching wheel speed.
3. Friction pull that says: I installed the shifter so I have less clutch wear pulling my chain... No, I see your chain hanging!

I guess I just needed to hear you say that Hub. #1 almost seems like a no brainer. It's all hood though. we had 60 F a couple days ago.

A simple one gear to the next [use 2nd to 3rd], will tell you if the bike is wired as per.

Without any resistance on the tire/motor. Im thinking the kill time on a stand would be less than if the tire was on the ground.

...but we are not disengaging anything here with these shifters, are we. SO, IDK? good question.

Shit Rook...I've seen yer track deal.Trust me....you qualify to ride my bike anytime!ANYTIME!

You try some clutchless downshifts....they'll be second nature to ya once ya get the hang of it.I DO NOT RECOMMEND however trying to downshift from 2nd to 1st on the earlier 14's though.Even 3rd to 2nd can be a tad abrupt if you don't get er just right.Practice...that's all.You cut the load on the trans with yer throttle...just like that shifter does with the electrics.Same deal really.BUT...on my 07 I had to 'slightly'...VERY slightly give er a smidgen of throttle,then cut and shift at the same second....quickly...no slouching.Very easy once ya do it a few times.Kinda like a 'blip'...but smaller....much smaller.You don't really even notice it after a few times....just comes naturally for ya.Like upshifting without clutch...same thing.You can 'almost' keep yer throttle hand pinned upshifting like that.Split seconds...that's all.Micro seconds.One move....throttle,shifter.Same time.

You don't want to be doing this kind of shifting in plain old city traffic though....probably a tad stressful on the trans riding around town.BUT...OUT THERE...on the open curves and transitions...ya....that's really the place.Coming into corners,powering out...that sort of deal.Higher rpms actually will make for a better up/down shift not using the clutch.Least that's what I found with my earlier 14.

My new one....just doesn't seem to matter really...the trans is that refined.

* Last updated by: Grn14 on 3/9/2012 @ 11:46 AM *