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Thread: Steering stabilizer

Created on: 07/01/19 09:33 PM

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mokaw


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RE: Steering stabilizer
07/13/19 1:42 PM

Cruderudy, I guess your post was meant for me. I did a search on this forum before I posted as well as on other forums. I went back several years to see what people were using on their 14's for stabilizers. From several years back until now there is some good information. Also, from then until now, there are hundreds or thousands more 14 riders. I wanted to find out the reliability of expensive stabilizers from people that have had them for years compared to cheaper ones that people have had for years, do they leak oil, do they work good, adjustability, etc. I got some good answers, except from you. Sorry if I offended you. But out of respect for you and maturity on my part, I'm not going to call you a dumbass like I was going to for calling me a lazyass.


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RE: Steering stabilizer
07/13/19 10:13 PM

Of course not you just the people who dont search

So how do you reconcile the limited or unknown bandwidth and 1st resonance frequency of the unknown Chinese damper copy vs, the Scott's or GPX damper design?



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RE: Steering stabilizer
07/17/19 10:19 AM

I put the cheap one on bc I took the bike to a land speed event and they required it, not bc the bike ever needed it. I ran the bike to 189 mph in a standing start 1/2 mile without any stability concerns; this at stock height as well. Generally, if you get a slapper on the road, it's because your suspension is not set up correctly...or your body position was WAY off. Generally, suspension-wise, it's too much rear sag and/or the front too little, too stiff. Setting up the suspension is the free way to eliminate this, in most cases.

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RE: Steering stabilizer
07/17/19 5:34 PM

So how bad is it to run a busa damper on a 14? And does anyone have info on making a Suzuki damper stiffer?



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RE: Steering stabilizer
08/04/19 6:43 PM


I cancelled my order from motomummy on July 5th for the Hyperpro stabilizer. It still wouldn't be here as of this writing. I ordered a Chinese version from Amazon on July 8th and I got it 2 weeks later, on July 22nd. Motomummy price was $396. The Chinese version was $65. It's pretty much a duplicate of the Hyperpro, without any instructions. It's not too hard to figure out how to mount it, actually pretty simple. The thing looks great, at least I think so, and it works great. It keeps the front end nice and straight when accelerating really hard. No more headshake from 2nd to 3rd shift. I hope it's reliable and trouble free. I'll let you guys know as time goes by.


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RE: Steering stabilizer
08/04/19 7:10 PM

Does look like it belongs there great price too

I’m sure u will enjoy it if it sharpens the steering also



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mokaw


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RE: Steering stabilizer
08/04/19 7:21 PM

Thanks Crude. I think it was a great buy and the construction is A+. Sorry about the rant I had about you. It was just one of those days.

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RE: Steering stabilizer
08/04/19 10:44 PM

Yep...I had the hyperpro on mine.Took it off and sold it to a guy with a 14.But dialing it in...oh yeah...you can feel the damping definitely.Looks like yours(and sounds like yours)will be a good deal.

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RE: Steering stabilizer
08/05/19 1:04 PM

Looks good. Boy Hyper-Pro better step up their game. The Chinese got em beat on price and delivery. Embarrassing. Hope Hyper-Pro is not an American product...I think it might be British.



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mokaw


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RE: Steering stabilizer
08/05/19 2:00 PM

Hyperpro stabilizers are manufactured in the Netherlands. I had tried to order one direct from them but it didn't work out. Maybe I did something wrong. Whatever. I got what I wanted and so far am pleased with it.

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RE: Steering stabilizer
08/05/19 3:35 PM

Ah--the Dutch. Good people. Brits too. Didn't mean to insult anyone. Something must be going on if they can't keep up with demand on a product like this. Might just be the competition they got from Asia.

Not get all political here but I have seen no impact of tariffs on Asian motorcycle copy parts yet. I did notice just recently that AliExpress and such sites do not come up when searching for copies of D3 grips. I had to order genuine D3 grips by Driven for about 4x the price + tax. How much you want to bet Driven has D3s made in Asia?

Oh well. could be the beginning of the end of cheap Asian parts. ORDER MORE STEERING DAMPERS WHILE YOU CAN!!!!


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RE: Steering stabilizer
09/09/19 7:18 PM

Hey Mokaw , that looks awesome, I am only getting one because the club im riding with say I have too, can you give me the link to find yours please , that will do perfectly.



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RE: Steering stabilizer
09/10/19 9:30 PM

Maddy, go to amazon.com and look for their search line. Type in steering stabilizer for zx14 and it should bring up all kinds of different ones. The one I got is the FXCNC for $65.99. Some include mounting hardware, some don't. This one does. They also come in different colors. Take your pick. The only thing that isn't included is mounting instructions, but it's pretty easy to figure out.


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RE: Steering stabilizer
11/27/23 1:44 PM

Four years ago I bought a Chinese copy of the Hyperpro steering stabilizer. I said I would let everyone know how it works out. Four years later and it still looks and works like new.
Well worth the savings of $330.

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RE: Steering stabilizer
11/28/23 12:41 PM

if it were me,I'd stay away from anything Chinese for motorcycle parts.ESPECIALLY something as serious as steering performance.I know one thing.Their 'kits' for bolts and body hardware are about as flimsy as they come.Soft metal alloys.Break at the drop of a hat.
What model Hyperpro is it a copy of?There's a few different types.


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Rook


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RE: Steering stabilizer
11/28/23 7:42 PM

My Hyper-Pro exploded when I hit the deer. If your Chinese copy is working, stick with it. If you remove your damper for a few months and notice a whoop in the steering where you noticed zero whoops in the steering with, whatever damper you got is doing something. You notice a whoop in your steering with whatever damper you got, better go to some other damper. Personally I think the chinese copies are often extremely good and chances are they improved the design over what they were copying off of. My Hyper-Pro did very well. I don't expect any damper to withstand a deer strike. ...but next time around, I'd be VERY likely to try out a Chinese copy. Hyper=Pros are probably made in China anyway. ...I'd bet a few bucks they are. SActually about 50-75 bucks. Nothing is made in the US anymore.


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mokaw


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RE: Steering stabilizer
11/29/23 2:30 PM

Grn, not sure what model Hyperpro it's a copy of. If you look on Hyperpros website, there are some different models, where one has some different functions than others. All I know is that this thing works EXACTLY like it should. It has 26 settings. I'm kind of light, 147 lbs. I live in North Dakota where we get some pretty windy days. If I'm riding and it's windy, I turn the dial to about 15 and my bike is rock steady whereas before I had the damper on, the wind would try to, how can I say this, move the bike around somewhat. Also, when I'm accelerating and hit my 2nd to 3rd shift and the front wheel is off the ground, no more headshake like I had experienced once in a while without the damper. I've done a lot of roll on racing from 40 mph to 180 mph and it's a good piece of mind feeling and knowing that when the front wheel lands, (the wheel could be off center somewhat) it's not going to turn into a tank slapper.

As for the metal, the damper itself, mounting hardware, bolts, whatever, they are A+. Nothing cheap here.

Rook, I always have the damper set at 5 to 8 clicks around town and 12 to 15 on the highway. Never at 0. So, no whoops.

In conclusion, I saved a lot of money on a copy of a name brand item that works and functions and is made as good as the name brand.

If anyone wants to see a picture of the damper mounted on my bike, scroll up.

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RE: Steering stabilizer
11/30/23 3:58 PM

I'm not son convinced the greyish/blackish market Chinese stuff is terrible. But I think the issue is QC. Seems like one person get's a gem, the next gets junk. I think we've seen that with the knock off rearsets. One person get's a set and they last for years. Another pet's a set and it's falling apart after a few rides.

I think it really depends on A) your budget and B) your risk tolerance. If you want the best chance for a higher quality, consistent product you're probably better off sticking to branded stuff. If it's something worth taking a risk on, for example at least IMO NOT tires, brakes, fluids, and stuff along those lines, might be worth the risks.

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RE: Steering stabilizer
11/30/23 9:20 PM

Rook, I always have the damper set at 5 to 8 clicks around town and 12 to 15 on the highway. Never at 0. So, no whoops.
In conclusion, I saved a lot of money on a copy of a name brand item that works and functions and is made as good as the name brand.
If anyone wants to see a picture of the damper mounted on my bike, scroll up.

That LOOKS like the Hyper-Pro knock offs I've seen and I WOULD try one. I probably said, if it works, you should notice by riding the bike with the damper and without. I always had my Hyper-Pro set on max. Yes, there were two kinds of Hyper-Pros and the one I had made no difference in steering feel no matter how high it was set but it was supposed to tighten up under extreme steering inputs such as a tank slapper. The other kind was as tight as you set it all the time and it was good for stunt riders who were doing stoppies and such. I never had a tank slapper but I did have an occasional zing in the steering going over a bump. ...never had that with the Hyper-Pro. ...so I presume it was working and would probably help in a tank slapper if that ever happened.

I think it really depends on A) your budget and B) your risk tolerance. If you want the best chance for a higher quality, consistent product you're probably better off sticking to branded stuff. If it's something worth taking a risk on, for example at least IMO NOT tires, brakes, fluids, and stuff along those lines, might be worth the risks.

i couldn't agree more Vic. Last time I looked the Hyper-Pro knockoffs were about sixty bucks compared to what...two hundered for a Hyper-Pro? It becomes a very important item if you feel it's not working though, doesn't it? I would try one but I'd prepared to replace it if I felt any minor whoops. If you get whoops, it's just a decoration and it's not going to help in an emergency.



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