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Created on: 06/16/09 06:24 AM

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Just thought I'd share a little about my turbo install
06/16/09 6:24 AM

I picked up a Cycle-Logic turbo kit for my 14 awhile back as alot of you know. I've been squeezing in install time on it a little here and there. The kit came VERY complete...right down to the exhaust gaskets and a kawi oil filter And it was packed with lots of tlc Dave, the owner of Cycle-Logic, has also been great with any questions The kit actually uses busa exhaust gaskets....the stock ones are honestly a joke So far the install has been pretty straighforward and simple......everythings went together as its supposed to I have the turbo installed and bolted up, fits very nice, tucked in well and should clear everything just fine. The rest is just bolting up/finishing the small stuff. My kit also came with a sweet tucked in polished megaphone exhaust...no need to cut the fairings for dump pipes or an air filter for this kit One thing I can say is its a bit time consuming.....if you plan on installing one give yourself some time. And a bike lift would come in handy. I'm 6'3, and all the bending over/squatting def isn't doing my knee's or back any favors Overall tho its been a relatively straightforward affair, anybody fairly comfy with tools could do it.........the only part thats at all scary is drilling the gas tank and oil pan for fuel and oil return lines. I have a california model 14 with emmissions lines on the back of the tank, so I'm pulling off the emmissions stuff and using the built in return line...no drilling needed. I'm also returning the oil through the fill cap with a modified cap (comes in the kit), so no removing the oil pan for drilling either. If you use those 2 methods, overall installing the kit so far has really been pretty easy....not much harder than pulling the flies and installing a full exhaust on the 14.
Just wanted to share some info for anybody considering boosting their 14. Plus this sub-forum seemed a little lonely lol.
I'll continue to share info as things progress


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RE: Just thought I'd share a little about my turbo install
06/16/09 10:49 PM

I'd say we need a couple more turbo heads around here.

Glad it's going smoothly. Can't wait to hear the stories about the power of your mutant 14 and see some pics.

Personally, I always liked the look of the filter sticking out of the lower fairing but I suppose it is less aerodynamic and it might draw unwanted attention, too.

Rook


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'08 MIDNIGHT SAPPHIRE BLUE flies out, full Tsukigi Cannon exhaust, BMC race filter, Muzzy's block off plates, Super Sprox 17t output sprocket, AFM 45t rear sprocket, EK zzz 530 chain, Gilles Tooling axle adjusters, PC5, Romans map, AT-200, Ignition Module, LCD-200, Speedohealer V4, Glow-Shift gauges, Illumiglow 210 mph clock faces, HM PLUS quickshifter, Factory Pro EVO Shift Star, RC's oil pump cover, Moto-D magnetic oil drain plug, MIT billet oil filler cap, Shorai 14A2 Lithium battery, Spiegler SS clutch and brake lines, HyperPro RSC steering damper, LighTech fuel tank cap, Vortex rearsets, lightweight mudflap bracket, FP Racing preload adjusters, Ohlins FGRT807 forks and KA544 shock, Carrazzeria Tri-R wheels, Bridgeport 90° valve stems, CZ 320mm front rotors, Galfer rear wave rotor, Pazzo levers, ProBots Dzus fasteners and many other bolts replaced with aluminum or Ti, Vortex mirror blocks, CRG bar end mirrors, LSL frame sliders, axle sliders, billet bar ends, 2WheelWorkz muffler

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RE: Just thought I'd share a little about my turbo install
06/17/09 12:03 PM

Speaking of filters sticking out Dangerous D.....I want your opinion, should I keep the turbo in stealth mode, or add a few tasteful turbo stickers? I've been debating maybe a couple small stickers up front...but then again it might be kinda fun suprising folks with a 280hp "stocker"

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RE: Just thought I'd share a little about my turbo install
06/17/09 2:46 PM

I'd keep it stealth, but, I like that on everything!



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RE: Just thought I'd share a little about my turbo install
06/17/09 4:02 PM

Hey Jeff I got the exact same bike as you.....take your cans off and add a short meg exhaust tucked up under the right footpeg and thats my turbo 14
Thanks for the feedback on the stealth approach.....thats the way I'm leaning right now. The guy I got the kit from ceramic coated everything black, so unless you're up close looking for a turbo you'll never know its there. I did have the charge tube polished up again tho...couldn't help myself, I need alittle bling lol.

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RE: Just thought I'd share a little about my turbo install
06/17/09 9:00 PM

I'd want to tell the world i have turbo so I'd go with a white vinyl Turbo sticker on each side. Maybe near the tops of your lowers? That'd look cool on a black 14. No reason you shouldn't hold off and surprize folks for a few months. I'd go stealth for a while but I imagine you will be running pipeless now so anyone who knows anything will suspect you have turbo once they give you a look over.

BTW, would you happen to ride a RED busa?

Rook



'08 MIDNIGHT SAPPHIRE BLUE flies out, full Tsukigi Cannon exhaust, BMC race filter, Muzzy's block off plates, Super Sprox 17t output sprocket, AFM 45t rear sprocket, EK zzz 530 chain, Gilles Tooling axle adjusters, PC5, Romans map, AT-200, Ignition Module, LCD-200, Speedohealer V4, Glow-Shift gauges, Illumiglow 210 mph clock faces, HM PLUS quickshifter, Factory Pro EVO Shift Star, RC's oil pump cover, Moto-D magnetic oil drain plug, MIT billet oil filler cap, Shorai 14A2 Lithium battery, Spiegler SS clutch and brake lines, HyperPro RSC steering damper, LighTech fuel tank cap, Vortex rearsets, lightweight mudflap bracket, FP Racing preload adjusters, Ohlins FGRT807 forks and KA544 shock, Carrazzeria Tri-R wheels, Bridgeport 90° valve stems, CZ 320mm front rotors, Galfer rear wave rotor, Pazzo levers, ProBots Dzus fasteners and many other bolts replaced with aluminum or Ti, Vortex mirror blocks, CRG bar end mirrors, LSL frame sliders, axle sliders, billet bar ends, 2WheelWorkz muffler

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RE: Just thought I'd share a little about my turbo install
06/18/09 4:33 AM

Mythos wrote:
BTW, would you happen to ride a RED busa?
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RE: Just thought I'd share a little about my turbo install
06/18/09 9:34 AM

Haha, you could have strung me along more than that, BadinR - er - Black. hahahaha! I'll keep it quiet even though most of those busa boys don't seem to hold any kind of ill will toward 14 owners.

Rook


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'08 MIDNIGHT SAPPHIRE BLUE flies out, full Tsukigi Cannon exhaust, BMC race filter, Muzzy's block off plates, Super Sprox 17t output sprocket, AFM 45t rear sprocket, EK zzz 530 chain, Gilles Tooling axle adjusters, PC5, Romans map, AT-200, Ignition Module, LCD-200, Speedohealer V4, Glow-Shift gauges, Illumiglow 210 mph clock faces, HM PLUS quickshifter, Factory Pro EVO Shift Star, RC's oil pump cover, Moto-D magnetic oil drain plug, MIT billet oil filler cap, Shorai 14A2 Lithium battery, Spiegler SS clutch and brake lines, HyperPro RSC steering damper, LighTech fuel tank cap, Vortex rearsets, lightweight mudflap bracket, FP Racing preload adjusters, Ohlins FGRT807 forks and KA544 shock, Carrazzeria Tri-R wheels, Bridgeport 90° valve stems, CZ 320mm front rotors, Galfer rear wave rotor, Pazzo levers, ProBots Dzus fasteners and many other bolts replaced with aluminum or Ti, Vortex mirror blocks, CRG bar end mirrors, LSL frame sliders, axle sliders, billet bar ends, 2WheelWorkz muffler

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RE: Just thought I'd share a little about my turbo install
06/19/09 10:27 AM

Do I get a vote?
Cuz I vote for the sleeper.
Those in the know, will know... others will find out soon enough!



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RE: Just thought I'd share a little about my turbo install
06/19/09 10:06 PM

Oh yeah Dog...all votes are welcome Part of me thinks it would be cool to have some factory looking turbo stickers on it........the other part wants the turbo to be a big secret till I twist the throttle, and they say MANNNN!!!...I didn't know those 14's were so friggin' fast!!!! lol

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RE: Just thought I'd share a little about my turbo install
07/01/09 5:42 PM

Just wanted to share some info for anybody considering boosting their 14.

I am also considering a turbo but I am still sitting on the fence. One of my riding buddies has just finished his Turbo install on his zx-12 and I guess all the oil that he sprays all over us when we race is not my cup of tea. Sounds like Slow is also having some issues with the nitrous as well. What to do, what to do. I hate the fence. I just want to say thanks guys for the info I am following these threads with great interest. Bad, the turbo sticker ? I'ts a coin toss ..... When a TURBO bike is whistling up your ass it is something you don't forget. It is a great experience even if it is my ass.

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RE: Just thought I'd share a little about my turbo install
07/01/09 10:09 PM

What to do???.... STROKER!!!
I'm thinkin' mine's gonna get a stroker kit over the winter. A good builder sould be able to get me similar #'s to what the turbo bikes are throwin' down.



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RE: Just thought I'd share a little about my turbo install
07/02/09 12:27 AM

Who are some good builders and where are they located?

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RE: Just thought I'd share a little about my turbo install
07/02/09 1:52 AM

Had the motor for my zx9r built by Danco (yes that's what the guy goes by). That was quite a while ago and I'll have to track the guy down if I want him to build the motor for my 14. Probably search for a different builder that's opened up a zx14 before though. Danco had started specializing in Yamis last I heard. Too bad cuz the guy worked some magic on my zx9. Found out about him from talkin' to guys at the local track.



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RE: Just thought I'd share a little about my turbo install
07/02/09 6:17 PM

What to do???.... STROKER!!!

I was looking at the Muzzy kit last year but after reading about all the heat issues had to re-think that one. Dog, Which kit were you looking at ? 3rd option.....AAAHHHH Turbo I can do myself . Stroker no can do. What do you think the labor cost would be for a stroker install?

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RE: Just thought I'd share a little about my turbo install
07/02/09 10:46 PM

Romans I think alot of it depends on what you're going to use the bike for. If you're gonna race it anything will give you some issues. I street rode my first turbo, no hard extended runs or drag strips, just lots of short blasts mixed in with cruising. I got 13k trouble free miles before I sold it still going strong Turbo's can be awesome when set-up and treated right......I'm permanently hooked And I believe Bad has over 10k on his, with LOTS of hard racing. I'm almost finished with my install, it hasn't been hard or complicated, but it has been tedious and time consuming. If you ever decide to do a kit just give yourself plenty of time...and don't rush it, thats where the probs start Take your time and be thorough and you'll have the ride of a lifetime

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RE: Just thought I'd share a little about my turbo install
07/03/09 3:41 PM

If you ever decide to do a kit just give yourself plenty of time...and don't rush it

Maybe this winter

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RE: Just thought I'd share a little about my turbo install
07/03/09 8:48 PM

LOL.........actually it'll make the perfect winter project. Since I have the busa to ride, I'm kinda enjoying working on the 14 and watching it come together. I have it mostly on....just waiting for an oil fitting from Dave for the turbo, then I'll fill the cooling system back up, finish wiring up the boost and afr gauges, finish the clutch lock up and 2nd fan install, and install the Cox radiator guard that Steven posted the link up for I think thats about it. I have to admit tho, now that all the main components are in place and it looks like a turbo bike, I'm starting to get a little (actually a lot lol) antsy for a ride

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RE: Just thought I'd share a little about my turbo install
07/04/09 6:08 PM

I was looking at the Muzzy kit last year but after reading about all the heat issues had to re-think that one. Dog, Which kit were you looking at ? 3rd option.....AAAHHHH Turbo I can do myself . Stroker no can do. What do you think the labor cost would be for a stroker install?


Actually haven't done much research.... but now that mine is toast it's about that time.
Labor and machining alone on my zx9r was more than $3k. So yeah, turbo would be more affordable and posible to do yourself..... but c'mon....... 250hp all motor. Tell me you don't salivate at the thought!



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RE: Just thought I'd share a little about my turbo install
07/04/09 7:34 PM

Tell me you don't salivate at the thought!

I wish you guys lived closer

now that all the main components are in place and it looks like a turbo bike,

Bad, you must some pics you could post. just one. Just wondering about the exhaust you have installed .

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RE: Just thought I'd share a little about my turbo install
07/06/09 2:10 PM

I can tell you that a 250 hp all motor 14 is not going to be a very good street bike. Its actually going to be hard to do better then 240 with a 3x5 stroker,and these motors don't like stop and go traffic. However this is still a streetable build. The 3x8 motor will not live there! I can also tell you that their is nothing like the feeling of a stroker's rheostat like response from any rpm and damn near any gear,but once a turbo gets spooled up not much else is going to stay with them. We have sprayed these big motors and give turbo's fits but you can't put much more then a 40 shot on them with out longevity problems. Another thing to keep in mind is that a good stroker 14 is going to set you back about 8 grand with a head/cams package to take advantage of the displacement. In all honesty the turbo has no equal dollar for dollar..................Bill

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RE: Just thought I'd share a little about my turbo install
07/06/09 4:15 PM

billeason, do you have a stroker now ? If so, which one? May be i'm reading between the lines here but it also sounds like if you had to choose one or the other, it would be turbo all the way. Cheaper,faster


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RE: Just thought I'd share a little about my turbo install
07/06/09 6:15 PM

Really Romans i run a 06 3x5 in a 64'' bike thats my personnel favorite! My son is riding one of our 2x4nos motors on a stk wheelbase bike and both will run and hide from just about anything on a 60mph roll-on including the 06 turbo we built a for pro street project that never quite gets off the ground[ removing parts for other peoples bikes]. These bikes are so much fun to ride,its addictive but so is a turbo. I have to be honest even tho i favor the all motor 14's these big motors will never make peak torque like a well tuned turbo. Both will take more maintenance then a stocker but if i could only have one bike for street/strip it would be a forged piston stk bore 4mil stroker with a good 60 shot nos system.Not cheap'' but boy will your turbo buddies learn to respect that bitch any where. Hee! Hee!.............Bill

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RE: Just thought I'd share a little about my turbo install
07/06/09 7:17 PM

but if i could only have one bike for street/strip it would be a forged piston stk bore 4mil stroker with a good 60 shot nos system.Not cheap'' but boy will your turbo buddies learn to respect that bitch any where. Hee! Hee!.............Bill


billeason, what kind of hp&torque #'s could you expect to lay down with this set up ? (Sorry about type O in text above. I fixed) It also sounds like you have some amazing hardware, any Pics?

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RE: Just thought I'd share a little about my turbo install
07/07/09 11:05 AM

The 4mil-stk bore motor with head and cams will give you 224hp with 117 ft trq. This not a high hp motor but not bad'' where this build shines is the nos it will take. We stop them at 300 hp roughly because the fuel system will not safely supply any more fuel,and the injecters are at a critical 80% duty cycle. This is with modded regulator but with a intank walboro i have found more hp. The 2x4 i spoke of in the first post has the better pump and a few little improvements and it is 330 hp but its not usable power any where other then the track and the bike needs to be long with the wright chassis which this bike does not have wright now. If you stay with a 60 shot on the 4mil you have one hell of a good running street bike without getting into all the fuel up dates. ................Bill

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