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Created on: 01/17/12 01:24 AM

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csum60



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fork springs
01/17/12 1:24 AM

Hey guys was wandering what would be the best springs to put in my forks to set up my suspension I am 6ft and about 300Ibs any help would be great

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RE: fork springs
01/17/12 12:45 PM

The way I was schooled the other day, you'll need a selection of springs. You can literally run one light spring, one stronger spring in either fork. This can work out to your plushness. My only mod would be to stagger tube-clicks as if each had different springs. That means, if I send in a heavy on one leg, I might write down 3 winds 2 clicks as opposed to a round of other numbers on the other fork. If I had even fork springs, then even click-winds.

Your adjustments may vary from my fat ass.



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RE: fork springs
01/17/12 9:40 PM

csum60; I'll be working on the same thing soon. You can send these guys your info, and they'll send the proper spring and valves, or send them in and they'll install. Rear shock/spring too. Very reasonable prices.
http://www.traxxion.com/sporttouringforkrelated.aspx



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RE: fork springs
01/17/12 10:37 PM

http://www.traxxion.com/sporttouringforkrelated.aspx


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RE: fork springs
01/17/12 10:42 PM

I'm going to throw in a .9 in one leg, toss a .8 in the other = 8.5 me ride. Get it?



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RE: fork springs
01/17/12 10:50 PM

8 + 9 = 17 /@ 2 = 8.5 and so on up or down the chart ~ I can half scale my ride.

Now for the hub hump my thought. I'm not going to crank a 4 wound-round on a 9. Or am I equally going to point my points scale? Now, does the formula go whack, or are we 4 winds a piece on the one 8.5? Get it?

If I were 9/9, I'd 4-4 the wind.
If I am 9/8, I'd think out of the box and formulate or now I am too wound on one leg, I push the one leg less/more with less/more wounds?

No. I should be an X-Y-Z'd point fork point. I am still a set pound point 3/4 winds... Yes or no?

Yes. This to me is new territory. So, school me Sunday, I am homeworked out by sundown; did it pop in my head I run stagger winds.



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RE: fork springs
01/17/12 11:13 PM

See the black artuningeeeeee Haaaaaa!? Takes balls like Grn to come back in, say this is pushing or this is hopping like a pogo stick. In-Out, in-out all day long wear out me tubes.

No shit, you have to be cranked over, push that tire for all shebang right before it lets loose. If it keeps on sticking, not pogsticking, shows no daylight under the tire... I think you went in the right direction.

I am still one shock. I read in dual increments. That means my setup black arts:

1. I can match my winds, turn for turn.
2. I can stagger my winds, who cares, I am one springa ding-ding!
3. I can pound in the points up the scale. I have options.
4th variable = I equal one spring rate like soooooooo minute.

Yes or no?



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RE: fork springs
01/20/12 7:23 AM

My notes read:

1. I cut spring, I make the spring stronger.
2. I shim the spring, I make it blow off somewhat sooner.

Watching that pit work bright back some memories. Here I am with zip for any kind of settings. We have this sanction tube with holes in it. One hole blows out, one sucks in. One is bigger than the other. Technically, call it two jet holes in a carb. They both push out and both suck in. You get the idea, right?

So, what happens if I take this idea, run it on the 1023cc [at the time]? This thing pogo sticked with daylight between the legs, I almost imagined it [watching the sun's shadow that front wheel [bouncing that badly]. Experimenting with the tube, I braised up a hole or two, ran it for a test. When I rolled off, kinked over for the apex, it would daylight really bad. The only way to stop it was to get back on the gas.

The motocross forks were the way to go. But that is here nor there now. Now I'm thinking out of the box again with the setup I've witnessed. Kind of interesting you can mess around and dial in the forks for fatties, like if you like some hard suspension, that is the only way to run hard... I mean, race track hard.

We have too much weight on use, so the idea here is to plush out the ride. We also could not sag our bikes. We cranked up the lower shock ring in the back to the highest point. Got S&W springs and those were color band. If I thought of that back then what I witnessed the bright idea, I never connected the dots to think one shock bounce, I use two different weight springs in the back? Oh well.

The combination now is to cut one, shim it. I have one fork that is more taught than the other. One is going to move or load less or more on the oil release. I can run one weight oil in one fork, I still have a blend we split the variable the other fork runs another weight.

I run a 4 wind on the soft spring or the uncut spring. I run 3 winds on the harder spring. I'm fork blending both tensions, oils, and blow offs. I keep stepping up the moves, I run my bleed off screws in the blend to the other fork YOU... Got it! Spork ME!


Will it work, yes or no? I'm even fork springs, so I'd stick with even winds, even needles. If I had spring selections, I'd try it. Either there is an idea to throw away, or someone out there has tried this already? Never thought about it like me? But now look at the 3V's now! I'm all over that idea if one fork is X to Y Z die for [no daylight]!



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RE: fork springs
01/20/12 7:35 AM

I'll play with the R this round. I'm going to sag myself as it rolls off the floor, find my stock numbers like I did this bike. I went from there. This time, I'm going to sag myself with the lowest spring settings, or zero winds. This way, I wind up the sag.

I doubt there is a static difference I begin from the middle or start at the bottom. To keep the idea going, I'm going to run ATF in one fork, leave the other alone. If they have aftmkt springs and you have a few selections, I'll try an OEM and an aftmkt as the one setup.

I set the blow offs/winds in percentages. The stock spring gets 4 winds, the aftmk receives 2. If it feels funky, you'll be the first to know. Lucky the rear swing is not using duals like the oldays. It's getting complicated but easy at the same time, yes?



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RE: fork springs
01/20/12 11:07 PM

Hub; I would think using 2 different spring rates is fine to a point. If there was a huge difference it might stress the triple clamp. I see you're also playing with oil weight, are you trying different valving?



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RE: fork springs
01/21/12 7:55 PM

Yes, I see what you're saying, alg8, but lets do it this way. Say we install heavier springs. I've never heard a tree collapse from a stronger spring. The other part is, what if we use one stock spring, one stronger spring? That bumped the tree up less than a full two spring rate rise, correct?

Yes, the second part was the valving. That part comes in, where you'd have to build a fork bobber, preloader, depogo'er... Set both forks in the jig/tester so as to lock both of them down. So, here you are with this big arm that you can push down on one fork or both at the same time, meaning.

I'm sure if the rig was as stout so as not to move like a set of forks with axle, but match the bike, we could see both act as one fork or one push down. If we are fluid out of a faucet, would that hot-to heat-to warm blending, come as one flow [temp], we adjust both handle speeds out the faucet end?

Your rig's (handle), still meets in the center of that two fork spreads. The thing you can't do is pivot or counter steer the rig. This fork tester pusher downer is like a motorcycle. YOu are testing the push/recover speeds, right? That turns out to be one speed we release brake or hammer down on the brakes. See what I'm saying?



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RE: fork springs
01/21/12 8:03 PM

Pulling out your hair endlessettings after settings... Yes or no? I can see a lot of plush moving if you had the time to experiment.



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RE: fork springs
01/22/12 11:49 AM

Thread: 2 reasons you shouldn't buy a 14R
User: dragking
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Yep definitely heard good stuff about Racetech, Ktech as well but you know it's
the same thing as with the other stuff, I don't wanna wonder how the best
performs. I can see myself saying stuff like: would I have cornered faster if I
had ohlins instead of racetech... lol... All in my head of course but I want the
best for my baby. I'm really trying to talk myself out of those forks though but
looks like they gna come on after the wheels. Unless you're in Vegas, when you
spend good money you almost always get a good return. Also the price difference
is not THAT bad! What I should have done is stick to the original plan and just
get a spring for the shock but having easy access to the adjusters is worth it.
I just hope I never sell this bike. lol
Plus have you seen women from Sweden?
I believe in everything that comes outta that country!

The more I think about it, the more expensive the experiment. I think a quality spring front and rear is the locker. So, this is not a halfront/\stock rear? No, I have to eat both front and rear. Are we saying, only Seaweeds can wind? Where is the titanium spring rate? I hear that material is the rolls royce of springs. We are cheating like keep the spring rate going. Stack? This is think out of the box stacking. If I stack a pack of valve springs.... Come on!

http://www.jegs.com/p/Lunati/Lunati-Valve-Springs/753447/10002/-1

I can stack a bunch of variables... Why do I needa sweeeeeeeeed????



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RE: fork springs
02/18/12 10:43 AM

Oh, and here is one for ya. The Stoner kind of rider, I mention over our lunch conversation, the Stamboli guy is only adjusting one fork. Here I'm schooled again, 4-time goes, that is so old, one fork is rebound, one fork is compression!

I think we have all these combos I've never thought of... Same goes for the ease of that sync system. Common sense clears the call. Schooled again and this stuff is so old, I'm going to spring up and play around with the next genner.



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