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Created on: 05/13/19 07:18 AM

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apexlocator


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Air Filter
05/13/19 7:18 AM

I have a ZX14R with 11,000 miles now, original air filter. Is it time to replace? And where is it? Does the fairing need to come apart?



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Maddevill


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RE: Air Filter
05/13/19 7:25 AM

You need access to the left frame area. I'm not sure if you have to take off the fairing panel on the Gen 2 . On my Gen 1, I take off the foreman grill on the left side and the front tank cover. You'll see the access door held with 2 bolts.

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Rook


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RE: Air Filter
05/13/19 3:08 PM

Yeah I would bet it's high time to change it. 8000 is about the max I would suggest waiting in the future unless you live in an extraordinarily clean environment. 6000 is about the right time for me to change.



'08 MIDNIGHT SAPPHIRE BLUE flies out, full Tsukigi Cannon exhaust, BMC race filter, Muzzy's block off plates, Super Sprox 17t output sprocket, AFM 45t rear sprocket, EK zzz 530 chain, Gilles Tooling axle adjusters, PC5, Romans map, AT-200, Ignition Module, LCD-200, Speedohealer V4, Glow-Shift gauges, Illumiglow 210 mph clock faces, HM PLUS quickshifter, Factory Pro EVO Shift Star, RC's oil pump cover, Moto-D magnetic oil drain plug, MIT billet oil filler cap, Shorai 14A2 Lithium battery, Spiegler SS clutch and brake lines, HyperPro RSC steering damper, LighTech fuel tank cap, Vortex rearsets, lightweight mudflap bracket, FP Racing preload adjusters, Ohlins FGRT807 forks and KA544 shock, Carrazzeria Tri-R wheels, Bridgeport 90° valve stems, CZ 320mm front rotors, Galfer rear wave rotor, Pazzo levers, ProBots Dzus fasteners and many other bolts replaced with aluminum or Ti, Vortex mirror blocks, CRG bar end mirrors, LSL frame sliders, axle sliders, billet bar ends, 2WheelWorkz muffler

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RE: Air Filter
05/13/19 3:12 PM

I changed my G2 at 7500 and it was fcuking dirty and where I ride aint no dirt. Ram air seems to work good ramming bugs and crap to the air filter and CA don't have bugs either because we live in a fcukin desert (most years)



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piken


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RE: Air Filter
05/13/19 3:19 PM

OEM can be had for around 35 +/- online or around 60 +/- local dealer.

I pull mine out, blow it out with compressed air, mild soap wash and dry in the sun and reuse.

Looks like new.


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RE: Air Filter
05/14/19 6:00 AM

No oil on the foam? I've been using K&N and BMC for years.



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Rook


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RE: Air Filter
05/14/19 6:34 AM

I'd only wash a reusable one that is designed to be washed and reused.

I feel best replacing an OEM filter. Break off the tabs and remove the steel plate and it will be lighter than a BMC and the difference in flow compared to a race filter will be negligible. Actually I was told by a tuner the difference in AFR with or without a race filter is already negligible,



'08 MIDNIGHT SAPPHIRE BLUE flies out, full Tsukigi Cannon exhaust, BMC race filter, Muzzy's block off plates, Super Sprox 17t output sprocket, AFM 45t rear sprocket, EK zzz 530 chain, Gilles Tooling axle adjusters, PC5, Romans map, AT-200, Ignition Module, LCD-200, Speedohealer V4, Glow-Shift gauges, Illumiglow 210 mph clock faces, HM PLUS quickshifter, Factory Pro EVO Shift Star, RC's oil pump cover, Moto-D magnetic oil drain plug, MIT billet oil filler cap, Shorai 14A2 Lithium battery, Spiegler SS clutch and brake lines, HyperPro RSC steering damper, LighTech fuel tank cap, Vortex rearsets, lightweight mudflap bracket, FP Racing preload adjusters, Ohlins FGRT807 forks and KA544 shock, Carrazzeria Tri-R wheels, Bridgeport 90° valve stems, CZ 320mm front rotors, Galfer rear wave rotor, Pazzo levers, ProBots Dzus fasteners and many other bolts replaced with aluminum or Ti, Vortex mirror blocks, CRG bar end mirrors, LSL frame sliders, axle sliders, billet bar ends, 2WheelWorkz muffler

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Hub


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RE: Air Filter
05/14/19 7:05 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sxEpgJ3i50

That's a negatory on the fiber washing. Pressure pushes the microns deeper into the fibers, then pass out the other side scoring the cylinder wall, skirts, etc. Best move is to replace with a new element. I sacrifice the ram-effect for engine longevity. I want the most compression made, not leaking down score lines, we add up the scores and find a combined leak down the side of the cylinder kind of lost compression.



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piken


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RE: Air Filter
05/14/19 10:26 AM

I'm not saying to never replace a air filter, but....

A cleaned and reused paper filter "is better" then a dirty paper filter, period.

A dirty filter will increase vacuum pressure and draw more/larger particles through the filter.

What is the filtering efficiency of a new paper filter vs a cleaned and reused paper filter?

What is the filtering efficiency of a cleaned paper filter vs a K&N filter which has
lower filtering efficiency then a paper filter to start with.

Engine longevity and lost compression from using a cleaned paper filter is
a little over dramatized. How many 10's of thousands of miles and years it
would take to show any more wear one over the other, would be a lot if ever due
to other things that will effect engine wear/longevity and lost compression.

I do have a vehicle bought new 17 years ago, 175k miles and has never had a new air filter, but then
I've never done a leak down test on it either.

But, yes, you should always replace the air filter with high quality paper filter for
best filtration efficiency.


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Eray


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RE: Air Filter
05/15/19 1:24 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sxEpgJ3i50

That's one weird video.

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redboot


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RE: Air Filter
05/18/19 8:39 PM

Do you think I need to change my air filter, or could I get one more season out of it?



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Rook


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RE: Air Filter
05/18/19 9:08 PM

How many miles is that?



'08 MIDNIGHT SAPPHIRE BLUE flies out, full Tsukigi Cannon exhaust, BMC race filter, Muzzy's block off plates, Super Sprox 17t output sprocket, AFM 45t rear sprocket, EK zzz 530 chain, Gilles Tooling axle adjusters, PC5, Romans map, AT-200, Ignition Module, LCD-200, Speedohealer V4, Glow-Shift gauges, Illumiglow 210 mph clock faces, HM PLUS quickshifter, Factory Pro EVO Shift Star, RC's oil pump cover, Moto-D magnetic oil drain plug, MIT billet oil filler cap, Shorai 14A2 Lithium battery, Spiegler SS clutch and brake lines, HyperPro RSC steering damper, LighTech fuel tank cap, Vortex rearsets, lightweight mudflap bracket, FP Racing preload adjusters, Ohlins FGRT807 forks and KA544 shock, Carrazzeria Tri-R wheels, Bridgeport 90° valve stems, CZ 320mm front rotors, Galfer rear wave rotor, Pazzo levers, ProBots Dzus fasteners and many other bolts replaced with aluminum or Ti, Vortex mirror blocks, CRG bar end mirrors, LSL frame sliders, axle sliders, billet bar ends, 2WheelWorkz muffler

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redboot


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RE: Air Filter
05/18/19 10:03 PM

The filter was new when I left home in Vancouver BC. 3 weeks and 9500kms later, Alaska and back with lots of riding in the dirt due to road works.



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Rook


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RE: Air Filter
05/19/19 2:13 PM

Good thing you checked it. Good thing you had an OEM in there too.



'08 MIDNIGHT SAPPHIRE BLUE flies out, full Tsukigi Cannon exhaust, BMC race filter, Muzzy's block off plates, Super Sprox 17t output sprocket, AFM 45t rear sprocket, EK zzz 530 chain, Gilles Tooling axle adjusters, PC5, Romans map, AT-200, Ignition Module, LCD-200, Speedohealer V4, Glow-Shift gauges, Illumiglow 210 mph clock faces, HM PLUS quickshifter, Factory Pro EVO Shift Star, RC's oil pump cover, Moto-D magnetic oil drain plug, MIT billet oil filler cap, Shorai 14A2 Lithium battery, Spiegler SS clutch and brake lines, HyperPro RSC steering damper, LighTech fuel tank cap, Vortex rearsets, lightweight mudflap bracket, FP Racing preload adjusters, Ohlins FGRT807 forks and KA544 shock, Carrazzeria Tri-R wheels, Bridgeport 90° valve stems, CZ 320mm front rotors, Galfer rear wave rotor, Pazzo levers, ProBots Dzus fasteners and many other bolts replaced with aluminum or Ti, Vortex mirror blocks, CRG bar end mirrors, LSL frame sliders, axle sliders, billet bar ends, 2WheelWorkz muffler

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