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Created on: 05/15/18 12:31 PM

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wellcraft



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Chains that don't rust do they exist?
05/15/18 12:31 PM

The ZX14R is my first bike with a chain, all my previous bikes have been shaft drive BMW's, so I'd like to know if there's an aftermarket chain that doesn't rust? I notice rust spots developing on the stock chain almost as fast as I can clean and lube the chain and then a few days later I see rust starting to appear again. Thanks

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Rook


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RE: Chains that don't rust do they exist?
05/15/18 3:45 PM

It must be your geographic location. Do you live in Florida?

I had zero rust on the stocker and none on my chrome EK ZZZ. Some chains come with a chrome finish on the sideplates but I think the paint that is normally used should be just as good for most people.

Is it the rollers you see rust on? I've had that after a rain ride but it wears right off and no more problem. If your side plates are rusting, that seems pretty extreme. I would be concerned about what might be happening to the wiring.


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'08 MIDNIGHT SAPPHIRE BLUE flies out, full Tsukigi Cannon exhaust, BMC race filter, Muzzy's block off plates, Super Sprox 17t output sprocket, AFM 45t rear sprocket, EK zzz 530 chain, Gilles Tooling axle adjusters, PC5, Romans map, AT-200, Ignition Module, LCD-200, Speedohealer V4, Glow-Shift gauges, Illumiglow 210 mph clock faces, HM PLUS quickshifter, Factory Pro EVO Shift Star, RC's oil pump cover, Moto-D magnetic oil drain plug, MIT billet oil filler cap, Shorai 14A2 Lithium battery, Spiegler SS clutch and brake lines, HyperPro RSC steering damper, LighTech fuel tank cap, Vortex rearsets, lightweight mudflap bracket, FP Racing preload adjusters, Ohlins FGRT807 forks and KA544 shock, Carrazzeria Tri-R wheels, Bridgeport 90° valve stems, CZ 320mm front rotors, Galfer rear wave rotor, Pazzo levers, ProBots Dzus fasteners and many other bolts replaced with aluminum or Ti, Vortex mirror blocks, CRG bar end mirrors, LSL frame sliders, axle sliders, billet bar ends, 2WheelWorkz muffler

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RE: Chains that don't rust do they exist?
05/15/18 4:28 PM

lol.You mean,o-ring I hope;)
Never seen a chrome plated chain.Sounds kinda cool.I'v never had rust on any of mine either.But I keep em pretty clean.
To the OP...are you sure it's rust?The inner roller lube in a sealed chain CAN begin to come out if the O-RINGS(;0) are failing.Usually a red dusty color or grey.The way you're describing it,it sounds like the chain rings are going bye bye.If you take a flashlight and inspect along the chain there down the middle,you might see some small thin tufts of rings sticking out.If there's even one...it's time to replace.They're all getting ready to go.What are you using to clean your chain?Kawasaki manual says to use kerosin.


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wellcraft



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RE: Chains that don't rust do they exist?
05/15/18 5:06 PM

I live in PA near Philadelphia and the rust is showing up on the side plates.

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RE: Chains that don't rust do they exist?
05/15/18 7:29 PM

I guess just keep her oiled.

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wellcraft



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RE: Chains that don't rust do they exist?
05/15/18 7:53 PM

My bike is a 2017 with less than 1500 miles so the chain shouldn't be wearing out that quick, at least I hope not.

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Rook


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RE: Chains that don't rust do they exist?
05/15/18 9:50 PM

NO, it shouldn't. This is weird. Philly is sort of close to the ocean but not right on. Come to think of it, the stocker did rust a bit more easy I think but only on the rollers after they got wet and the bike sat.

So...the paint is chipping off the chain....or the rust is coming from under the paint???? That is odd. 1500 miles is brand new.

If you clean with kerosene and lube with wax, that's all that should be required. Try not to let it get wet, I guess. Maybe you were stuck with a cheap chain on a brand new bike. Do you see a DID stamp on the side plates?

Here's my chrome plated chain. The rollers are just rollers. Chrome is only on the plates. It's held up perfectly for 8 years.


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'08 MIDNIGHT SAPPHIRE BLUE flies out, full Tsukigi Cannon exhaust, BMC race filter, Muzzy's block off plates, Super Sprox 17t output sprocket, AFM 45t rear sprocket, EK zzz 530 chain, Gilles Tooling axle adjusters, PC5, Romans map, AT-200, Ignition Module, LCD-200, Speedohealer V4, Glow-Shift gauges, Illumiglow 210 mph clock faces, HM PLUS quickshifter, Factory Pro EVO Shift Star, RC's oil pump cover, Moto-D magnetic oil drain plug, MIT billet oil filler cap, Shorai 14A2 Lithium battery, Spiegler SS clutch and brake lines, HyperPro RSC steering damper, LighTech fuel tank cap, Vortex rearsets, lightweight mudflap bracket, FP Racing preload adjusters, Ohlins FGRT807 forks and KA544 shock, Carrazzeria Tri-R wheels, Bridgeport 90° valve stems, CZ 320mm front rotors, Galfer rear wave rotor, Pazzo levers, ProBots Dzus fasteners and many other bolts replaced with aluminum or Ti, Vortex mirror blocks, CRG bar end mirrors, LSL frame sliders, axle sliders, billet bar ends, 2WheelWorkz muffler

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Grn14


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RE: Chains that don't rust do they exist?
05/15/18 10:50 PM

"the paint is chipping off the chain"...what paint?I've not seen a factory chain with paint on it?Never heard of that before.


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Rook


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RE: Chains that don't rust do they exist?
05/16/18 6:37 AM

My factory chain was gold. It's paint. Maybe I got a good one.

wellcraft, it might just be the remaining salt at the end of winter. Up to you but I'd wait until a good rain before I resumed riding.



'08 MIDNIGHT SAPPHIRE BLUE flies out, full Tsukigi Cannon exhaust, BMC race filter, Muzzy's block off plates, Super Sprox 17t output sprocket, AFM 45t rear sprocket, EK zzz 530 chain, Gilles Tooling axle adjusters, PC5, Romans map, AT-200, Ignition Module, LCD-200, Speedohealer V4, Glow-Shift gauges, Illumiglow 210 mph clock faces, HM PLUS quickshifter, Factory Pro EVO Shift Star, RC's oil pump cover, Moto-D magnetic oil drain plug, MIT billet oil filler cap, Shorai 14A2 Lithium battery, Spiegler SS clutch and brake lines, HyperPro RSC steering damper, LighTech fuel tank cap, Vortex rearsets, lightweight mudflap bracket, FP Racing preload adjusters, Ohlins FGRT807 forks and KA544 shock, Carrazzeria Tri-R wheels, Bridgeport 90° valve stems, CZ 320mm front rotors, Galfer rear wave rotor, Pazzo levers, ProBots Dzus fasteners and many other bolts replaced with aluminum or Ti, Vortex mirror blocks, CRG bar end mirrors, LSL frame sliders, axle sliders, billet bar ends, 2WheelWorkz muffler

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RE: Chains that don't rust do they exist?
05/16/18 6:45 AM

Hmmm..interesting Rook.Mine are(were)all silverish colored.No paint that I could see.So the EK's and such 'gold'(edition)chains are painted?Didn't seem like they were painted gold.


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RE: Chains that don't rust do they exist?
05/16/18 7:32 AM

When near new I had about a 14 in section of chain on BBW start to rust, rest of the chain was normal. I actually think a dog pissed on her. Clean it up best I could with Kero and waxed it good and never saw it again, rust stain is still there.



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Hub


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RE: Chains that don't rust do they exist?
05/16/18 9:15 AM

Say the manual says every 500 miles. You lubed the chain 3 times so far, yes?
Say you're more high maintenance and that's every 300 miles. You lubed the chain 5 times so far, right?
Say that chain is going to wear out quicker than following maintenance procedure, then yes.

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Rook


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RE: Chains that don't rust do they exist?
05/16/18 6:52 PM

I think mine lasted about 20,000 miles and it was ready to be changed. I was pretty good about cleaning and lubing. I neglect the EK ZZZ by comparison and it's lasted 30,000 miles. I think it's still good.

So the EK's and such 'gold'(edition)chains are painted?Didn't seem like they were painted gold.

and DID. Just click the color you want.



'08 MIDNIGHT SAPPHIRE BLUE flies out, full Tsukigi Cannon exhaust, BMC race filter, Muzzy's block off plates, Super Sprox 17t output sprocket, AFM 45t rear sprocket, EK zzz 530 chain, Gilles Tooling axle adjusters, PC5, Romans map, AT-200, Ignition Module, LCD-200, Speedohealer V4, Glow-Shift gauges, Illumiglow 210 mph clock faces, HM PLUS quickshifter, Factory Pro EVO Shift Star, RC's oil pump cover, Moto-D magnetic oil drain plug, MIT billet oil filler cap, Shorai 14A2 Lithium battery, Spiegler SS clutch and brake lines, HyperPro RSC steering damper, LighTech fuel tank cap, Vortex rearsets, lightweight mudflap bracket, FP Racing preload adjusters, Ohlins FGRT807 forks and KA544 shock, Carrazzeria Tri-R wheels, Bridgeport 90° valve stems, CZ 320mm front rotors, Galfer rear wave rotor, Pazzo levers, ProBots Dzus fasteners and many other bolts replaced with aluminum or Ti, Vortex mirror blocks, CRG bar end mirrors, LSL frame sliders, axle sliders, billet bar ends, 2WheelWorkz muffler

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RE: Chains that don't rust do they exist?
05/17/18 8:01 AM

wellcraft,

The stock chain and the DID replacement I have on now both never had any rust. I avoid the rain but get caught in the wet every now and then so unless you are riding every day rain or shine I doubt that's simply the case. What do you use to clean the chain and do you use a solvent to clean the side of the chain after you apply oil?

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extrapolator


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RE: Chains that don't rust do they exist?
05/18/18 3:03 PM

I'm approaching 10,000 miles now on my ZX. I've ridden Florida, some Georgia the curves of NC/TN and some Virginia. I spray lube on every few hundred miles ... No rust.

But then they don't salt roads in FL, or GA I think, and I'm not sure they do in NC/TN/VA either.

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