This much I do comprehend. Never. Doomed. Total waste of the human spirit but it is all in the design and it is one hell of a design. Kudos to you my Creator!!!

YOU PEOPLE ARE DOOMED (but I already knew this).

Do I care? Not in the least....good riddance.

What is Hell? Just ask me...

"YOU PEOPLE ARE DOOMED"...huh?

Right out of the gate ..."It is written." Who wrote it? Mankind in so many different lifespans. All of a sudden some lamebrain comes up with what was acid in their day is hash,buds, opium, who knows, fermented fruit? Someone was smoking/ingesting way too much of nothing to worry about. Ask me if I give a shit about this existence. It is what it is and for me to ponder my navel for what? And now, one continues to propagate the myth. Your choice, your right to and all that shit.

Yanni, get your ass in here... it's playtime.

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God is dead
and no one cares...
If there is a Hell,
I'll see you there.

NIN

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Yanni, get your ass in here... it's playtime.

You know me way too well Hub!

Yep, lets worship a cult built on human sacrifice.
"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son."
You tell me to kill anything let alone my son for a sacrifice and I'll tell you to fuck right off!

If I rape, torture and kill your daughter, well thats all okay cause it's exactly why Jesus died for my sins. He forgave me for the wrongs I do to you!
Sounds like a very reasonable and fair concept doesn't it...

Nothing can come from nothing and the universe is so unbelievably complex it simply must have a designer. And the designer can't have been designed or it would not be God.
So it's not okay for the universe to come from nothing, but its just fine for something infinitely more complex than the universe to come from nothing! (I never stop laughing at this one).

It is written

Lets base our lives and existence on a book that has so much immorality, so many holes, so much inconsistency, so many ridiculous anecdotes that a retarded monkey could improve it at a glance.
And this scribe is suppose to be a perfect beings message to all of us???

"Worship me and you will have everlasting life, but don't and you will burn with eternal torture for all time".
So do what I say without question and you will be rewarded, but don't and you will be severley punished.
Sound familiar? It should.
It is the embodiment and classic definition of slavery...

Thousands of infants die from starvation every single day. Their parents pray to God to save and spare their little ones.
And there is never any answer and never any result.
Those children die.
So either God chooses not to help or is impotent to do so.
Would you help a dying baby if you came across one?
What would you think of anyone you know who ignored a dying baby?
But your gracious ever-loving ever caring God does this to babies by the million if not more.
Pretty much every single day!
What sort of sick being is that???

And then you have someone who truly believes they have the right to say

YOU PEOPLE ARE DOOMED

to their fellow human beings.
That right there is one of the true horrors of religion...

Want me to continue?
I have so many more.
I can go on and on and on.
But no religious person in the history of this world has presented one skerick of proof, logic or reason for their case. Not one!
It's all based on faith.
The definition of faith. "A strong belief in the doctrines of something based on spiritual conviction rather than proof."
Yep. Brilliant way to live your life...

How was that Hub?

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Jebus loves you!

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I forgot I even wrote this last night. A little too much Ketel One and OJ for me. I am just sick and tired of hearing and watching what is happening on the national news. I'll try and take a break from it all....NOT!

LOL - this definitely was not directed at any of you in this forum. I was just venting. As for me? I am doing great to tell you the truth. BTW - I am not religious at all. None, nada. I will tell you this though, there is something here with us that we cannot see or hear with our own eyes and ears and it has enormous power. I had a wild wild experience back in mid 2000's and it lasted for a couple of years. In case you are wondering, no, Ketel One was not involved at that time. LOL!

Kawasaki Rules the highways!

Thank God Trump is tough as nails. Confirm Kavanaugh.

* Last updated by: doznkoz on 10/2/2018 @ 4:34 PM *

lol.I ask God to let me have a safe ride.So far when I've asked Him that,I come home safe.And I thank Him for it also.;)

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Hey there Grn14, I do the same :) There is indeed something greater then us. I find myself looking at the stars an awful lot as I grow older ;)

Big azz universe...all just by chance?The way physics and everything work...just kinda came together and happened...perfectly?Um...okay.Steps of eons of time with different Earth happenings goin on,then disappearing.To b followed by another period of change.Chance?Whatever one says...lol.

I believe in Faith.
I also believe that organized religion is a cancer on the human race.

Mad

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Oh fer crying out loud. Here you go again. Look at human history. Organized religion is responsible for more human misery, genocide, wars and death than any other factor. Faith is good. Believe in God, Buddah, Muhammed, whatever. But as soon as religion becomes corporate it becomes corrupted by imperfect human behaviors. If you can't understand that, and I know that everything to you is about how evil the Libtards are, then I can't help you. Nor do I want to.
I am not criticizing you for believing in your Christ. Just keep it to yourself.

Mad

p.s. for a "Christian", you sure do espouse some hateful things.

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Well said about religion Mad. I’d have to agree with you on that. Born and raised Catholic myself, catholic school, altar boy, the whole nine yards. About 10 years ago I got some Wisdom. Faith is required, religion is not, in fact it is dangerous to humanity.

I have met the creator and it's "Magnetism."

Yanni, you have to top dis one... "organized religion is a cancer on the human race." Your first on was just a warm up.

Why folks need to argue against something they don't believe in anyway is puzzling is no puzzling at all. Any info found, either written in stone or parchment, Logic trumps faith. And now for pizza. I have no clue how one cannot eat next day pizza, cold. Why heat it up one more time. Like bringing the dead back to life. LOL

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cold pizza's okay;)

Buttfire, you are such a royal asshole how can you even say the word Jesus without being struck by lightning?
You think you are so pious and great and smart just like your hero. And like him , you are truly a stupid, stupid man.

Mad

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And now for pizza. I have no clue how one cannot eat next day pizza, cold. Why heat it up one more time. Like bringing the dead back to life.

Very good Hub.
One little tip there though. The secret to next day pizza is do not put it in the fridge!
Room temperature pizza is the best (sorry, no secret double meaning here)...

It comforts me to have faith in Christ,Why folks need to argue against something they don't believe in anyway is puzzling.

I am not arguing. I am challenging. There is a huge difference.
You believe in something. Its your right. It's not for me to say do or don't. And perhaps you are correct that my delivery is not always as respectful as it could be.
But I bring up inconsistency after non sensical and immoral point and no one, I'll repeat that, no one ever explains and resolves these issues away.
If a whole life is to be dedicated to something and someone brings up valid points that compromises that dedication, surely they should be considered and resolved?
But the religious blindly allow anything.
There is never any question or search for answers.
They cannot be wrong.
Even though the evidence screams at them that they cannot square away.
And yet evidence is exactly what they do not have for their belief in what they follow.
You are puzzled that I argue against something I don't believe in?
Times that by an infinite amount and that is how puzzled I am for a belief in something that has absolutely no evidence at all!
It is completely unproven, has many illogical challenges, contains so many inconsistencies they cannot be counted where no explanation can be given, has many immoral teachings in its Holy book, and all relies on complete and utter blind faith.

The points I previously raised above in my initial post,
Do they concern you?
Do they make you think?
Do you ever consider why is this the case?
Do you have a any desire deep inside to resolve them not for me but for yourself?

I just don't get it.
If I believed in something and someone blew hole after hole right through my belief, I would want to investigate and then resolve these issues.
And if I could not, why would I blindly continue.

Look at Green who everyone on this site knows is a good bloke.
I raise a point why I believe a creator is not necessarily responsible for the creation of the universe with logic behind my point of view.
The response is

Big azz universe...all just by chance?The way physics and everything work...just kinda came together and happened...perfectly?Um...okay.Steps of eons of time with different Earth happenings goin on,then disappearing.To b followed by another period of change.Chance?Whatever one says...lol.

All simple faith based rhetoric. Logic and reason is simply not important or required as a basis.

Then this

I ask God to let me have a safe ride.So far when I've asked Him that,I come home safe.And I thank Him for it also.

Then why are there any motorcycle accidents at all if God is protecting us?
Or are all the crashes just all non believers?

So won't some religious forum member here have a go at answering my raised initial religious inconsistencies that are all very solid challenges?
Perhaps I have it wrong? Perhaps I would like to see the light you see?
At the very least it would be interesting to see how the supposed chosen reconcile basic challenges to their doctrine.

But I won't hold my breath.

P.S.
Jump in whenever you are ready Hub...

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"All simple faith based rhetoric. Logic and reason is simply not important or required as a basis"..lol.Yep.ALL on faith.Can anyone alive actually prove that Jesus was even here?Nope.So it is on faith.And faith alone.This is no different than believing there is no creator.No God.Nothing.If I had real physical proof of say,Jesus,then it would no longer be faith.But the whole teaching of 'believing' is exactly what Christ pointed out over and over again.So I say...I believe.I've not lost a thing by doing it.And I think my life is better for it.I have prayed with people before for a particular healing.They came back and said..'I went to the doctor and guess what?.....'.Now I know it wasn't me who did anything.It couldn't be.But SOMETHING did.Faith?Faith in a supposed God?...from them?Apparently.So yeah,I believe.Sa'll good if someone doesn't.Nothing wrong with that.

"Then why are there any motorcycle accidents at all if God is protecting us?
Or are all the crashes just all non believers?"...this is THE dilemma for people.If God is love,then why the suffering?I don't know.But that doesn't matter(to me).There are reasons for things that I am not capable of understanding.And life does happen.Humans have problems.That doesn't take away from that gal I prayed for getting healed...jus sayin.And I've been in a few SERIOUS bike(and car)wrecks.Should have died,and did once.But I'm still here.WHY?IDK.I don't yell at God and say..'but you let me get hurt'.He must have been there keeping me alive?I think so anyway.helping the doctors and whatever.I could throw some 'explanations' of how some of these actually went down.I won't,but they weren't 'normal' in the way they happened and such.I choose to brlieve something much bigger was calling the shots....

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I pray for safe rides of course.But if I get in a wreck,I'm certainly not gonna blame God for letting it happen.There's a path for everyone.No two paths are alike.And there's a reason for that.It's REALLY hard to believe everything just kinda happened and here we are....To me,that is total nonsense.But to each his own.It's all good;)

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6k0JeEKR3Do

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Don't know much about that fella but that was entertaining Hub. Thanks for sharing that.

I ask God to let me have a safe ride. So far when I've asked Him that,I come home safe.And I thank Him

But if I get in a wreck,I'm certainly not gonna blame God for letting it happen.

So if you get back from a ride safely it's God keeping you safe.
But if you don't it's got nothing to do with God.

Anything good is 100% God's doing.
Anything bad is 100% not.

Oh for fuck's sake...

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You make some good points, but a man can overcomplicate tying his shoes.

Have you considered that it's not my shoes that are over complicated but yours?
Bump, you have answered none of the challenges I have presented to you and your fellow believers?

As I said, again I won't hold my breath for any logical or reasonable answers...

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"But if you don't it's got nothing to do with God"...sorry you didn't read my post there.EVERYTHING has to do with God,in one way or another.That's my opinion.You either see Him in all things,or you don't.Even giving mankind free will to choose his destiny.Or legacy.Whatever you want to call it.God is not gonna stop people from doing 'wrong'.And He's not gonna make everything go perfectly fine either.Otherwise,there would be no such thing as empathy.Or caring about the less fortunate.Or any of that.Those feelings of completeness would be non-existent.Life would be dull and pointless.So He made it possible for people to make choices about life and others.And everyone gets to participate.

What intrigues me is more the origin. The study of laws. The development of common sense. Thou shall not kill. Do unto others. Grab that little guy's pee-pee... no, wait I'm getting ahead of myself. How did it get from human laws to a kid kult. Whathell is that all about?

Anyway, what is with this sinshit? Aren't we back to basic human law? A sin is more murders, thieves, and psychologically ruin humankind throughout the ages. So as perfect is the wishthinker trying to make sense of this existence, the fight is more a clash of laws.

'There are no other gods but me' is a joke and a half. It was a sales pitch back in the day. Then another book came out with laws to live by and those words mention the 'non-believers.' Okay, here is where the logic/common sense split at the path of intersecting one law for the other.

The human 'spirit' back in the day more or less told the deity they do not believe in these laws more or less. Thus the clash of humanity. It's a force shoved down your throat that is more or less unanswered questions mankind keeps asking.

And as the aztec society no longer exists, the roman empire is forever crumbling, the egyptian ruins, and any other current culthink, these too will vanish and a new 'no other god but me' will spring up like a mushroom, there is much room for more culthink man will creatively make up as they go.

Common sense and logic is thrown right out of the window. Pick a century. Why?

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