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Created on: 11/20/13 06:34 PM

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Kawasaki unveils Supercharged Engine ...
11/20/13 6:34 PM

Next Gen 14R ?

Article Here !!



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RE: Kawasaki unveils Supercharged Engine ...
11/20/13 6:38 PM

Visor down article speculated this was going to be the new 600 engine. HP and torque of a liter bike but weight of a 600!

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RE: Kawasaki unveils Supercharged Engine ...
11/20/13 7:13 PM

Its beautiful and I want one, plus its not turbo so I'm thinking less maintenance!



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RE: Kawasaki unveils Supercharged Engine ...
11/20/13 7:15 PM

Yea, I want one too, although it looks more like a 1000 or 600, but who knows what mother Kaw is up too ...

All I can say, is if it is a 14, suzuki has its work cut out for them !!



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RE: Kawasaki unveils Supercharged Engine ...
11/20/13 11:50 PM

Looks sick. Kawi already has either a super charged or turbo engine in there top of the line jet ski. Based on the zx14 motor. Whhhoo hoo let the good times begain



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RE: Kawasaki unveils Supercharged Engine ...
11/21/13 1:15 AM

Kawa came out with a turbo street bike back several years ago...and Honda as well.These aren't new...relatively speaking.

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RE: Kawasaki unveils Supercharged Engine ...
11/21/13 5:18 AM

Yamaha too! My brother had a Turbo Seca 700 back in the days

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RE: Kawasaki unveils Supercharged Engine ...
11/21/13 6:51 AM

Visor down article speculated this was going to be the new 600 engine. HP and torque of a liter bike but weight of a 600!

Wait, they already did that back in 2011, didn't they? ZX-10r?

I think they are playing out the cards one little step at a time. 2014 supercharged 600, 2016 superchaged 1000, finally the superchaged 1500. That's when I will buy new again.



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RE: Kawasaki unveils Supercharged Engine ...
11/21/13 8:35 AM

Photoshop 'chrome.' Look at the breather tube or outlet or something over the countershaft chain guard guide rail. I tried to work with chrome. It's more for an artist's eye to get all the shadows and chrome to cause the effect.

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RE: Kawasaki unveils Supercharged Engine ...
11/21/13 9:26 AM

Blkcasper, you are right ! Here are the specs from the jet ski, hmmm maybe I will do an engine swap. LOL !


Engine
Supercharged and intercooled, four-stroke, DOHC, four valves per cylinder, inline four-cylinder

Maximum Horsepower
310 hp (Horsepower measured in PS at the crankshaft under controlled conditions. Actual performance may vary.)

Displacement
1,498 cc
Bore x Stroke
83 x 69.2 mm
Compression Ratio
8.2:1
Induction
Eaton Twin Vortices Series roots-type supercharger with air-to-water intercooler
Maximum Boost
16.8 psi



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RE: Kawasaki unveils Supercharged Engine ...
11/21/13 10:03 AM

Diff engine block. It would be pointless when you can easily build a turbo 14. Superchargers are cool, but inferior.



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RE: Kawasaki unveils Supercharged Engine ...
11/21/13 1:07 PM

Blue,

Why are superchargers inferior to TC's ? I understand a TC uses otherwise "wasted" exhaust stream for its power supply, so it is some ways more efficient than a SC, but with a SC it's running off the belt, so you don't have to "wait" quite as long for the boost, I know the newer TC's are much more advanced than the older ones ...

Not saying you are wrong, I am just trying to learn new things all the time ....



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1980 GS 1100
1978 GS 550
1968 CL 350
1972 TS 90
RM 125, YZ 250, CR 500. Taco 22 LOL !

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the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy,
its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.."
Winston Churchill

'The trouble with Progressive's is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so.' - Paraphrase of R.R.

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RE: Kawasaki unveils Supercharged Engine ...
11/21/13 10:10 PM

Im saying what little I know about turbo and even with the newer quickier spooling turbos...Supercharger gives power for ilde on up and a turbo still makes you wait even if its a lot faster now, you still have to wait on spent exhaust, just my opinion from what little I know, school me if I'm off here.



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RE: Kawasaki unveils Supercharged Engine ...
11/21/13 10:28 PM

Yea bobby that's what I always thought, but if someone can ring in, I'm more than willing to listen, as I said I try to learn new things all the time ...



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1980 GS 1100
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1968 CL 350
1972 TS 90
RM 125, YZ 250, CR 500. Taco 22 LOL !

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the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy,
its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.."
Winston Churchill

'The trouble with Progressive's is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so.' - Paraphrase of R.R.

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RE: Kawasaki unveils Supercharged Engine ...
11/21/13 11:49 PM

"Taco 22"....me too...way back...first bike I ever jacked my finger into the sprocket/chain run...bled like hell....get that countershaft sprocket geared right...she climbed like a natural;)3 hp briggs on mine.Loved that little beastie!

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RE: Kawasaki unveils Supercharged Engine ...
11/22/13 9:05 AM

http://www.theturboforums.com/content/157-TheTurboForums-com-complete-Turbocharging-guide



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RE: Kawasaki unveils Supercharged Engine ...
11/22/13 9:30 AM

Yea Grn,

On the Taco 22, I remember wiring the governer (as they called it) to get the full potential of the engine, the other kids didnt know how to do it, so mine was faster ! LOL !



2012 ZX 14R, Cblast ECU Flash, (RECOMENDED !!!!) 2 Brother slipons, ZG marc 1 windscreen, yosh fender eliminator, Pazzo Levers, Powerbronze hugger, heli bars, competition werks footpegs, Throttlemeister Cruise Control, CF Heel Guards,

Predator Race Team #14
Hayabusa
1980 GS 1100
1978 GS 550
1968 CL 350
1972 TS 90
RM 125, YZ 250, CR 500. Taco 22 LOL !

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure,
the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy,
its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.."
Winston Churchill

'The trouble with Progressive's is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so.' - Paraphrase of R.R.

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RE: Kawasaki unveils Supercharged Engine ...
11/26/13 7:45 PM

Just read this, fellas.

I don't know if this is the article that is linked in the originating msg of the thread by Carabuser since when I click on that link, I just get a larger photo of the engine but I surely like the "Fig 1" at the end of this article:

link here...

Looks very familiar in profile and details of structure..........indeed.


* Last updated by: PaulAB on 11/26/2013 @ 7:47 PM *



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RE: Kawasaki unveils Supercharged Engine ...
11/26/13 9:33 PM

That's a 14's profile for sure !



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Predator Race Team #14
Hayabusa
1980 GS 1100
1978 GS 550
1968 CL 350
1972 TS 90
RM 125, YZ 250, CR 500. Taco 22 LOL !

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure,
the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy,
its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.."
Winston Churchill

'The trouble with Progressive's is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so.' - Paraphrase of R.R.

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RE: Kawasaki unveils Supercharged Engine ...
11/26/13 11:06 PM

I already see someone regearing the tooth ratio and really spin that puppy yuppy.



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RE: Kawasaki unveils Supercharged Engine ...
11/28/13 4:27 AM

I WANT!







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RE: Kawasaki unveils Supercharged Engine ...
11/30/13 2:40 PM

Unless technology has changed since my high school years of car obsessions, turbo's have lag. Lag has no place on a 300hp+ motorcycle, Superior to a supercharger or not.

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RE: Kawasaki unveils Supercharged Engine ...
11/30/13 8:35 PM

Electric displacement will be the future. That growl from the combustion chamber will be mourned.







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RE: Kawasaki unveils Supercharged Engine ...
12/01/13 8:28 AM

Hopefully no time soon



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RE: Kawasaki unveils Supercharged Engine ...
12/01/13 10:38 AM

Unless technology has changed since my high school years of car obsessions, turbo's have lag. Lag has no place on a 300hp+ motorcycle, Superior to a supercharger or not.

I believe the Lag issues changed to the pitch of the blades. Other exotic is a mechanical curve or the blades moving as one so the pitch ratchets with that linear rpm move.

Apples to oranges, you still wait for an air rush with turbo. Gear to gear, no waiting. So turbo is a windmill waiting. The super is an oil pump drive think is solid liquid gas, who cares, cash waiting! And if it's just 10's quicker, I'll sick with the slow one I have now. If it's seconds quicker and I mean a couple of seconds? Reach around ready.



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