[quoteYep jagman you are right i'm BATMAN. Ops i meant gixxerjohn. Your point is????? Do you want a cookie,does anyone here care????? I think you are the ONLY one here who gives a FLYING FUCK who i am. Think about it,you are going crazy trying to prove what exacaly. NOBODY GIVES A FUCK. Has ONE person here even answered you back about it?????? Know i'm the only person paying any attention to you. And that STOPS right now. BYE BYE crazy stalker you will get zero from me our anyone else with your wacky rants,that i promise you.][/quote]

You might be surprised how many people are commenting on that very topic Gizzer:) BTW..not going crazy doing anything but certainly rewarding to see you squirm and get closer to finally admitting you're that guy.
You know the crap you've pulled there and here and it goes far beyond some friendly debating or razzing. Sure you're not going a little, maybe just a tiny bit crazy there big guy?

" why don't you just go ahead and tell everyone exactly what is going on Grn14?"...nope,gonna let YOU SMART guys here..you know,you ones that've been dissing and attackin me and others...gonna let YOU tell the forum what's been going on...you're doing just fine right now....please continue. "I'm not sure if you really think I'm Hub."...wrong...I am sure about what I know...not "thinking' I know....go ahead...keep talking.Everyone's listening .You've got their interest piqued now.

Who's talking about YOU.I didn't mention YOU?What's up with that?

"Now I'm seriously laughing"...where have I heard THAT before?

Ughh...well I just kind of assumed you were talking about "me" cause you quoted me at the top of your post:)
I'm being serious for a minute though-please tell us everything you know about the wacky stuff and phony names etc?

"We all see the world, or in this case the forum, through our own eyes"...yep...absolutely.

And it should be that way.Let me tell ya this Dogo....if you're workin on your bike...and the parts guy tells ya...yup,it's genuine...no worries...and ya go home.....look at it...whatever.It looks real.You install...cool...all good to go.Down the road a ways...BAM....friggin bike blows.Ya come back pissed as can be...rightfully so.You stomp into the dealer....rightfully so.All the sudden you calm down for a second..you look over...what's that ya see?"Genuine Kawasaki Part..."made in China"....WTF?You gonna be pissed now?It SAYS Kawasaki on there?The guy sold it to ya believing(maybe) it was genuine.Now what?.

You do NOT know what's going on here...much like that part that just ruined your bike.

I like Chineese food.

This is an intellegent group of guys here....I'll let them come to their own conclusions....we'll just see how things match up.Okay?Good...thought you'd want to be treated with respect there.BG isn't the ONLY one here doing 'housecleaning'....Why not tell all of us some more gossip about Bikeland...we'd like to here more I'm sure...about how it is RIGHT NOW over there...and...my..how 'empty' it seems to be here..with just a few of us posting up in this .Kind of a 'play by play' deal here...very good.

* Last updated by: Grn14 on 7/6/2012 @ 4:00 PM *

" why don't you just go ahead and tell everyone exactly what is going on Grn14?"...nope,gonna let YOU SMART guys here..you know,you ones that've been dissing and attackin me and others...gonna let YOU tell the forum what's been going on...you're doing just fine right now....please continue. "I'm not sure if you really think I'm Hub."...wrong...I am sure about what I know...not "thinking' I know....go ahead...keep talking.Everyone's listening .You've got their interest piqued now.

I've never attacked you in my life. Always thought you were a decent enough guy. Thanked you in a thread for your help input on exhaust systems. Now, to be honest, I find your desperation to try and conjure up some BS story pitiful. It's now clear to me why all the turmoil surrouding you. I'd still say you seem like a decent enough guy though..

This is an intellegent group of guys here....I'll let them come to their own conclusions....we'll just see how things match up.Okay?Good...thought you'd want to be treated with respect there.BG isn't the ONLY one here doing 'housecleaning'....Why not tell all of us some more gossip about Bikeland...we'd like to here more I'm sure...about how it is RIGHT NOW over there...and...my..how 'empty' it seems to be here..with just a few of us posting up in this .Kind of a 'play by play' deal here...very good.

Ughh ok. Whatever you say. But I gotta say, some of Hubs posts make more sense than this one:)

Naturally...go ahead...keep sharing.We're all ears

Jagoffman should get the hint,noone cares about his rants,at all,well execpt him. My man needs a lil help or even a hug.

OK everyone lets go to my engine build thread and talk about actually motorcycle things. And jagman your invited if you please stop telling everyone i'm gixxer!!!!!

Naturally...go ahead...keep sharing.We're all ears

Nope..watched you make an utter fool of yourself before and have a breakdown in full view before taking your hiatus, but I'm not going to make a bigger fool of myself than I already have sparring with you and Gixxer/zx14racer There are two people I've had cross words with on either of these forums, one is same person on both, (seeabove), and most recently you. That's it. How many folks have you had significant conflict with on here? Can you even count them? Think about it...seriously. I'm sure by now, as I've said, I've gone farther with this little back and forth than most folks can stand, including me. I'm not going to get wrapped into your or your little buddies silly games anymore.
Sincere apologies to the forum.

The prudent man looks unto his own mouth...but fools open their mouths WIDE and declare their own foolishness.Truth...isn't it cool?

Didn't someone mention something about certain MO's of certain people here?Something about....apologies?Coulda swore I read that...from....oh geez...where IS he?...anyway....getting back to the subject here...'people telling on themselves'...that's something I never really understood...maybe kind of a 'please stop me' cry for help?NAH...only in the movies...ya...that's where I saw that...in hollywood.

* Last updated by: Grn14 on 7/6/2012 @ 4:24 PM *

Jagman GROW UP,my god this as gone wayyyy to far now. We are not little kids in school anymore. Lets just try not to say anything negative about one anoter for awhile and see how that works out. OK??? Lets see who the bigger more mature man is. OK?? I'm done being stressed out by going back and forth with other human beings that i should have nothing against. And grn you need to relax a lil too. We all do. No more bickering don't let anyone get u angry just ingnore someone if they are rude to you. Just be a beter man. This is a zx14 site,i actually look forward to threads like jagman when he is testing out a new pipe on his bike and how he feels about it,thats the great stuff on these forums,not this worthless shit. Grn me and you are the same,i don't see how i get overworked but when you go off the handle i see why people go after us. We can't keep taking it so personal.

* Last updated by: zx14racer on 7/6/2012 @ 4:26 PM *

"Grn me and you are the same,i don't see how i get overworked but when you go off"....really?Do tell.

"We can't keep taking it so personal"....talking about one's dying mother or father or both with total intent to hurt....'taking it so personal'?.

There is no WE here.I'm not like ANYONE here....if I was...you'd see me getting another 'round' with lots of hale hearties all around.Don't confuse me with some others on here.Beware when everyone pats you on the back.I'm exactly where I need to be...with my friends...AND my enemies.Taking things personal?Hardly.The lamp of the wicked shall be put out.I'm not mad or upset or anything.I'm just watching the show...watching it unfold just as I was told it would.

.The lamp of the wicked shall be put out.I'm not mad or upset or anything.I'm just watching the show...watching it unfold just as I was told it would.

Voices again, Dude?... Creepy, seriously creepy.

I think grn is to far gone,i think we lost him!!!!

Ya...'voices in my head'...yup....you needn't worry there Dogo...'they' won't be talking to you.It's not contagious...they only show up if invited.Always.And leave ya totally alone if ya want that as well.Totally.

Hey grn how old are you just wondering??

too old to play games .My guardian Angels wanna go for ride.They like this bigNinja for some reason.

Okay...in a minute...just hold on...we'll be goin shortly.

There...they get impatient at times...one of the funniest things I've ever seen.

* Last updated by: Grn14 on 7/6/2012 @ 5:13 PM *

Well...I don't actually 'see them' in the physical sense...but it's kinda like....feel em...and listen to em.Talk to em when they want that.Kept me safe on my bike(s) for a long time....shoulda been dead several times...it happens.They've been good to me..very.It's amazing really when ya think about how risky life can be....and just "WHY" didn't this or this happen at that time?It 'should have'...but it didn't.Everything was in place for it TO happen...but it didn't...close...ya...but didn't.Coincidence?Luck?Maybe to some.Not me.I know better.

* Last updated by: Grn14 on 7/6/2012 @ 5:25 PM *

I don't blame the people but we never had this problem until the 2012-R forum came along.

Well that be my stir-it-up post for the day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sometimes it is better to just let it go and understand this is only the internet and it is proven on the internet the poster is always right and everybody else is wrong.

Let it go and learn to laff more plus it is more fun to act a fool on the scoot than it is on the open board.

Just my opinion people and remember that I am the "Innocent Guy".

Ya...agreed...we should dump that troublemaking zx14R section....it's THEIR fault...those troublemakers.How about we start a Harley section....now that should be a safe thing.Guys could talk about their Harleys...do comparos against these Jap bikes....I think it would be awesome.I'm in...let's dump the 14R section.Nothin but asshol@# have those bikes.Not to mention...they didn't buy AMERICAN...f'n traitors.They don't belong here.Makin people mad...makin em post 'harmless' insults...all that stuff.I vote dump the 14R section!!!Think of all the conflict that'd be gone if we had a Harley section in it's place....or maybe a BUSA section...lots of sites have multiple mfg's sections?Why not.Gxxers,750's(Suzukis)....Yamahas...much better than those dork troublemaking 14R owners.Besides....the vast majority of 'posters' on this dumb section are....zx14 owners....so why waste valuable space for a few asshat 14R owners....DOWN WITH THE 14R....should be banned from this site I'll tell ya.

* Last updated by: Grn14 on 7/6/2012 @ 6:49 PM *

I was just thinking the 14R forum isn't to bad iffens we can just weed out them fugly green ones...........

(insert the little laffing guy}

Any site you go onto there is always a personality clash or a who knows more bashing or a color bashing and it goes on and on. On the net everybody can be someone they are not and most people when you actually meet them they are nothing like they are on the board.

On 2nd thought people like me ought to be irritated with this forum because the 14R owners make sure we of lesser 14's might as well strip the 14 off and replace it with 250.

Yep this is the internet and I can say stuff like that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The Innocent Guy.............

Sigh. You guys know what I was doing while you were torching the forum? Riding. 260 miles worth. I was torching I79... showing the left lane lazies the true meaning of power.

There are some hard feelings here... and they aren't without merit. It still baffles me how a group of men whom all profess a love for a common machine can find cause to attack one another. What's to be gained by winning a "he started it" or "well he said" argument?

BG and I have never had a conversation. But I suspect he wanted this forum to be self-policing...a group of like minded, simalarly focused individuals who could gather around one concept and celebrate it whilst respecting each others idiosyncrasies. All without one advertisement.

If there is censorship afoot, the fault lies with us... the membership.