Hello to all, I have a Limited edition white, I am based in the UK, and looking to start tuning my bike, I have one question that seems it cant be answered in England so maybe you guys could help me out. OK I want to fit a PC111 now I know I can use a british power commander and down load the US maps but mine is a Californian model with some sort of vapour thingy on it, Are the Californian models different from the other US bikes in other way or do I just treat it as the same ie is there Californian maps ext ext any other things I should know,,, Any help greatly apppriaceted...Great looking forum you got here aswell nice one

If you have the emissions on the bike, it is better you leave it alone. I only say this being you keep the fumes at bay. This way, your octane is not lost if you ran open vent. You would have to seal off #'s 3 and 4 like it shows in your owner's manual or the tag on the bike. So, think about that being a good thing and sort of keep that octane vapor loss on the mods you have coming.

So, yes, you can hook the PC3 on the 14. Yes, download or trade maps with one another to see which grid map plots the best. Run the once off the PC website and start with those. You will have no problem using either UK or USA maps. It will either stumble from baseline, meaning, stock runs the best, to having a map that compliments the bike, not send the nose diving, someone over-rich'd a map.

As far as a Cali to a 48 State could only mean a ever so slight lean at a certain rpm is about it. More like the normal cruise range would be most where the difference lies. I am guessing a touch lean but it still has to be held within the stoic or the fuel to air ratio can go so lean till it burns up. So, this is why I say it is ever so slight as to think you need some radical change to the fuel trim. No, I would not worry in that damp town of yours call it an island.

Hello-over the pond there-On the website(Powercommander)there are TWO models of PC.One is the CALIFORNIA ONLY model,the other-RACE USE ONLY.The RACE USE ONLY will give you your map adjustments all the way down to the bottom rpm ranges.The CALIFORNIA model will NOT allow ANYONE to remap the lower 5,000 rpm ranges.This is where you NEED to map to get the full increase in performance.So it's up to you-I don't know what year you have,or if your secondaries are removed or going to be removed(on the 09's,the factory adjustments for the secondaries' opening sooner have pretty much taken care of the "bog"issues that the 06's-07's(and 08's?)had from having their secondaries open less aggressively.Believe me-if you buy the California model-you will not be able to tune you engine below 5,000 rpm.Hope that helps!Ride safe!!!So I guess that if you're planning on running without secondaries,you'll need to somehow plug off the emission equipment(bypass or something)and use the PCIII RACE USE ONLY model.(NOT street legal in CALIFORNIA).Honestly,I don't know(considering your bike year that is)if a RACE USE ONLY PCIII will work WITH the emissions equipment hooked up-it may?That's what you want to find out.You will NOT be able to load any maps onto the CALIFORNIA MODEL that will change the fuel settings below 5,000 rpms.

* Last updated by: blue07 on 6/23/2009 @ 10:40 AM *

CAFE my Cali WOT?

Hey, racer, you and I stay stock is whip some PC boys on their Forkin-1 is Forkin'Fun is give them a CAliFork'inn'ROLL-ON is stink up dare PC = Per Speer Rate Tear Catchup is cannot catch up with the stocker California Roll!

You want side cutters wit dat?

* Last updated by: Hub on 6/23/2009 @ 12:39 PM *

Hi chaps thanks for the reply's, its an 07 model and yes I want to take the flies out, and then fit a power commander but as said befor just dont know if this vapour control thing makes a difference, dont matter if its not street legal in california because im not there, wish I was though sun beach's and hot chics oh yes oh yes erm back to the bike.

Hub did your second message roughly translate into kicking the forking arses of tuned R1's on a stock 14,;-) if so sounds good

I think you could close off your canister there,perhaps remove altogether.Then go with the PCIII Race model.If you have a service manual,you can check the function and configuration of the emissions equipment on your bike,and make a decision if it will run okay without the smog stuff.Maybe someone here has done that? I believe the smog stuff is only a trapping of the fuel fumes and keeping them from going into the atmosphere-I may be WAY wrong on this?.................Hey Cafe-I looked on the Parts Fiche for the California model-the fuel Evaporative Emissions diagram.It looks like you could plug the fuel tank "emissions" hose going to the canister(before the "separator" unit)and remove those parts(or leave on(?))and plug the hose fittings that enter the throttlebodies(two hoses it looks like)(or maybe just plug the separator right there?).That would bypass the system(yes?)But you would need to modify the fuel door inside there somehow so the tank could vent to the outside air.Perhaps exchange the fuel door for a non-California model.Seems like it would work?That canister feeds the fumes back into the throttlebodies.Probably a couple of ways you could bypass all that.(?)Then you could use the Race Model, and get the maps you really want.

* Last updated by: blue07 on 6/24/2009 @ 12:45 AM *

Hub did your second message roughly translate into kicking the forking arses of tuned R1's on a stock 14,;-) if so sounds good

If you want to put the PC there where the canister is, just look down at the tank with seat off as you sit on the bike and look down at the 3 tank vents. The far left is the water drain if it rains or you overfill the tank, this weather drain goes down to the ground with the ram chamber drain tube are both down at the bottom near the shifter. The one with the clear plastic drain contaminant holder is when rain enters the ram chamber, the excess is flowing out the ram chamber and the rest is being sucked in or evaporating with the rushing air circulating.

Follow the two tubes that are placed at the end of the tank. These are your vent tubes for the gas cap and the one way purge fitting that works the pump. So, if you let the vent rubber tubes that are attached to the canister and purge pump, and let those hang where they are, you can remove all the other hoses and canister from under the seat and follow the two hoses to #3 and #4 sync nipples off the throttle body. Just find a nipple fitting like the ones on the #1 or #2 sync nipple extension. If not successful, then you cut the hoses off at the throttle body so you can stick something like a bolt or a golf-tee into the rubber tube to close off the injectors.

Open vent all 3 hoses in the back of the tank and your done with the emissions. You then search here for the heating of the phillips screws on the throttle plates for easy removal and now all you need is the PC if you keep modifying for performance.

Eventually, I will meet up with another 14 and if I bring the video that day, we can see me get blown away with my stocker or be dead even with all that is dyno tuned an modified on their end is someone will lose, someone will win the battle of the PC or Pee See? I told you not to mess with a stocker!

Thanks again chaps