Decided to keep my 14R...my beloved.Just for those times when I want that distance ability.Gonna do a seat mod I think on my H2....soften her up a bit....other than that...she's awesome;)

Good on you.

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AWESOME!

I'm so glad you're sticking by the 14, Greenie. I know we'd loose you to an H2 forum.

I think this is all the more reason why you should mod the H2. Make that bich as racey as it can be. LOUD, lean and fast!

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Sweet.

I have basically decided to stop selling bikes as I get new ones, provided they're still serviceable and I have the room for them.

Yup...gonna pick her up tomorrow...no problem.I should have both bikes....they're awesome;)Only mod for the motor(H2) will be the throttlebody openings.And the seat.Other than that...she rocks totally;)

* Last updated by: Grn14 on 4/29/2015 @ 11:56 AM *

Good to hear GRN.
Would have been a loss to you if you let the big girl go and a loss to us if you weren't involved in 14R discussions...

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I have the room here...why not?TWO of the greatest bikes ever built!Thanks guys...I would definitely miss not being an active(still)member here.

For me, the tipping point is going to be when I tell the wife her car won't fit in the garage any more. :D

Just picked her up...feels like good old friends again.Just couldn't let her go;)

Jt my wife's car has been outside now for 8 months....lol five bikes and the beer fridge take up her spot! Lol thank God she's a great girl.....lol

* Last updated by: Somefun on 5/1/2015 @ 6:13 PM *

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Just picked her up...feels like good old friends again.Just couldn't let her go;)

Good move Grn, I didn't think that H2 would replace the 14R. I was out hammering the twisties this evening on my old 14, man what a bike, it pretty much can do it all.

* Last updated by: Kruz on 5/1/2015 @ 8:34 PM *

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Yep...sweet ride for sure.But really,nothing like my H2...seriously.This thing is just 'out there';)The way she powers up and shifts and handles...just amazing really.Now that I've done some seat modding to her....and adjusted the suspension some,incredible.Won't be riding my 14 much,I can tell ya that...but she's good to have in case I choose something a tad more cadillac.Not that my H2 doesn't ride like a caddy....but it's different...that's all...just different.

* Last updated by: Grn14 on 5/1/2015 @ 11:39 PM *

14r is the hot rod of sport bikes.

H2 is the scalpel of track bikes.

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H2 is the scalpel of track bikes.

Not the best analogy there Wolf, H2 is a good handling machine for what it is but I would hesitate to describe it as a "track scalpel", that's not really it's forte, too much weight, too many compromises to excel in that area.

I'm waiting to see if it can beat the BMW S1000RR in a straight line, I've seen a few Youtube vids but inconclusive so far, depends more on the rider and the mods.

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I wouldn't say 'scalpel' either.Guys who've ridden her on the track are impressed with the acceleration and all,but not so keen on her ability to transition.Handling is great,but like Kruz says...the weight.It's another 'niche' bike from Kawasaki.Pretty much just to show the others what Mama Kaw is capable of.It IS a great street bike however.Very nice.

And yes...it can and does beat the Beemer.

* Last updated by: Grn14 on 5/3/2015 @ 5:51 AM *

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ejj2yGyaUAE

The BMW easily wins the first pull, they look close on the second. I was hoping the H2 was going to be dominant, at least in a straight line over the faster literbikes but not seeing it so far. It looks like it needs flashing and exhaust mods/tuning to get there. This is a head scratcher for me, should be quicker out of the box with that blower on there. Hub, what's your take on all this?

* Last updated by: Kruz on 5/3/2015 @ 6:23 AM *

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That's obviously a guy who hasn't done the Somefun mods and I don't know why he gave the beemer the advantage of rolling up on him from behind a few mph faster just as the race started. They should be starting side by side at the same speed. If a modded H2 with +45 hp doesn't stomp all over that beemer, Grn, you're just going to have to buy an s1000.

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I wouldn't say 'scalpel' either.Guys who've ridden her on the track are impressed with the acceleration and all,but not so keen on her ability to transition.Handling is great,but like Kruz says...the weight.It's another 'niche' bike from Kawasaki.Pretty much just to show the others what Mama Kaw is capable of.It IS a great street bike however.Very nice.

And yes...it can and does beat the Beemer.

* Last updated by: Grn14 on 5/3/2015 @ 5:51 AM *

Well Grn, you've got your bases covered pretty good now that you have the 14R back, something for every type of ride. Now just need a naked bike like the KTM 1290 to complete the stable.

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They looked dead even on second pull, H2 popped a wheelie on the first pull and blew his drive. I'd like to see the H2 go head to head with the literbikes stock for stock.

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14r is the hot rod of sport bikes.
H2 is the scalpel of track bikes.

If I was in market for a new bike I'd probably go with the 14R and use the left over bucks for mods. 14R seems to be the King Daddy due to the extra cubes.

Now if they ever supercharge the 14R, look out!

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That's obviously a guy who hasn't done the Somefun mods and I don't know why he gave the beemer the advantage of rolling up on him from behind a few mph faster just as the race started. They should be starting side by side at the same speed. If a modded H2 with +45 hp doesn't stomp all over that beemer, Grn, you're just going to have to buy an s1000.

I dunno, went back and looked at that again and they seemed to be close when they rolled into it. I'd call that last pull dead even but I was expecting more from a supercharged machine. Somefun will need to run his modded H2 against some similarly modded S1000RRs and post the vids.

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Wow that H2 rider makes the bike look tiny.

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"Look what we can do" but we will produce the bike so the gentleman's agreement is in compliance... i.e., detuned.

I still want to see if that blade is detuned on the H2 where the R has the centrifugal [blade withing a blade] style of double blades, whereas the street model has the single pump blades; I've seen in those cutout engines.

You'd have to find the R map is different than the street map ECU, flash the H with the R mapping and that's part of the tune. The blade/gearbox combo is a few teeth off and that spin is not running 130,000 rpm but more like 100,000 rpm and this also would detune the bike. I'd have to see the piston part numbers and if both are the same part, no compression change. I'd have to see the cam part numbers and if those are different then so is the profile.

Looks like the same 2006 kind of move with the subthrottle lag, and here we have a neutered SC vs its brother. The corporate mentality...'what will we sell next year is the same platform but more HP.' Same long in the tooth 14 and 14R is produce the faster model down the road. It sure is not about to sell less HP next year or they'll sit on the dealer floor.

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I dunno, went back and looked at that again and they seemed to be close when they rolled into it.

I'm seeing the BMW roll up on the H2 about 10 mph faster. If he wants to stay behind for a good filming view, he should just stay behind and pace the H2 until the 3rd guy gives the signal to start the race. starting a race at 70 mph against a bike that is going 60 mph is not as much of an advantage as say crossing the starting line at 10 mph against a bike that has to launch from 0 mph. However, that extra 10 mph sure could be a deciding factor if both bikes and riders are pretty equal. The H2 rider is definitely a bigger guy. The wrist I see on that s1000 rider looks pretty slender. .....but still....

I was expecting more from a supercharged machine.

Me too. But we've seen the hp/tq #s for a stock H2 for a month or so and it isn't anything that has not been done with NA bikes. In that regard, I'm not shocked that the H2 is merely equal to the BMW (as long as the BMW gets a little 10 mph starting advantage).

"Look what we can do" but we will produce the bike so the gentleman's agreement is in compliance... i.e., detuned.

That's it. The performance is there if you want it. You just have to do the mods.

* Last updated by: Rook on 5/3/2015 @ 9:55 AM *

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Kawi themselves have gone on record that the goal of making the H2 and H2R was to create the most thrilling experience possible. This is different from trying to duplicate a MotoGP bike.