Hey, my name is Jason and as I said in my intro thread I'm and R&D tech for Bazzaz. We need to bring in a 2012 ZX14R to develop a system on. So if you're in the SoCal area (we're in Chino Hills) and you can let us borrow your bike for a week or so, then we'll give it back to you with one of our Z-Fi fuel controllers installed with a custom map made for your bike. We would much prefer a bike that is completely stock, except for a slip-on exhaust.

If you've got any more questions or if you're interested in the offer, shoot me an email: jason@bazzaz.net

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I would be on this. You will have a custom tune. Everyone else will just get a map.

How is Bazazz better or worse than a Power Commander? (just out of curiosity, I don't have a 14r).

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Our fuel controller goes directly to the source for each signal, where the PC infers RPM from injector pulse, and doesn't even read gear or speed without an expansion module. If your have a bike with 8 injectors, which the zx14s don't, then our unit controls all of them straight out of the box instead of requiring a secondary module. And in my experience our controllers are just smoother. I had PCs on both my bikes before I started working here, and even running with the preloaded map on my street bike it's 10x smoother than any of the maps I tried on the PC. Both of our systems use a digital computer interface and are pretty similar. But there are little ways in with the Bazzaz software is easier to use, our unit draws power from the USB cord so the bike doesn't need to be on or running to view and edit your map or other settings, and you don't have to save the map after you're b/c all changes made in the software are made immediately to the programming in the control unit.

Also our with our quick shifter you can set a different kill time for each gear shift, instead of tying to make one kill time work for all gears. This is great feature because the lower gears put way more load on the transmission, and thus require longer kill times to be smooth and consistent. So by allowing you to adjust each kill time separately you can get them dialed in perfect for every gear so it's not killing spark too long or to short. And we have Traction Control, which no one else does for under $20k.

Our fuel controller goes directly to the source for each signal, where the PC infers RPM from injector pulse, and doesn't even read gear or speed without an expansion module.

That is a nice feature and no doubt the reason the the wiring harnesses are more complex on the bazzaz than the PC. It is also good to know that the gear and speed is addressed. I bought a PCV for my 2008 14 and I have never gotten around to figuring out how to tune for gear or speed. A lot of people just want to throw in a map, so if the unit more aspects of tuning without any extra work, that's a good thing.

the 8 injector capability is what sold me on the Bazzaz for my busa- even though some people claim that tuning for the all 8 injectors is an unnecessary refinement. Personally, that would just bother me that I was running around on a piece of high performance equipment that did not have all of its fueling capabilities addressed.

Thanks for the info.

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Personally, that would just bother me that I was running around on a piece of high performance equipment that did not have all of its fueling capabilities addressed.

That's kinda our thought behind it. It's not that much harder to control four more injectors, so why not give everyone that capability right out of the box. Obviously a stock 600 is going to get less out of controlling all 8 than a busa; the more you modify your bike the greater advantage you get out of controlling all your injectors.

Got the 2012 kit all wrapped up, had to slightly redesign the harness, and made a new map of course.

So tell us more! What kind of results you getting? I myself am thinking about getting a pair of slip on's.
Possibly getting a ECU reflash also.

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And in my experience our controllers are just smoother.

my street bike it's 10x smoother than

Got the 2012 kit all wrapped up, had to slightly redesign the harness, and made a new map of course.

I'm not sure where to start, but I will say this, the smooth lies between the #'s and both PC and Bazzaz have missed the copy of the bikes ECU setting. The problem lies between the Fuel cell #'s and RPM. Fix that and smooth will roll in. The rest is just a fight between software from the bike and what the pigg is working with. I do hope both units will improve.

Don't misunderstand, I'm a big fan of what both units have to offer and could not operate with out them but the SMOOTH does not work as well as as it could. AFR tells all. Cheers.

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I'm not sure where to start, but I will say this, the smooth lies between the #'s and both PC and Bazzaz have missed the copy of the bikes ECU setting. The problem lies between the Fuel cell #'s and RPM. Fix that and smooth will roll in. The rest is just a fight between software from the bike and what the pigg is working with. I do hope both units will improve.

I guess I'm not really sure what you're saying here. In my experience a lot of bikes get choppy, in low and mid-ranges, when you add an exhaust onto the bike. A condition most noticeable when trying to moderate the throttle, such as in a corner or in traffic. My bike was horrible at low TPS values, and was impossible to keep smooth unless you were accelerating quickly or decelerating at closed throttle. And that was when I had a PC and was trying every map they had to try to solve the problem, including adjusting the fuel myself. As soon as I put a Bazzaz system on my bike all the choppiness went away. My bike has a smooth and predictable power delivery no matter where I am on the throttle and transitions almost seamlessly to closed throttle. And I'm not even running a custom map, just using the fuel map that comes per-programmed on the control unit for my bike. Maybe your experience is different than mine? But every bike I've put a system on, while I've been here, has gotten smoother; I wouldn't send it back out the door if it got harder to ride.

Some people think that 500 RPM divisions between cells isn't accurate enough, and that it should be 250. And that's their opinion, but in our testing and experience, we found that 500 RPMs per division was more than adequate.

So tell us more! What kind of results you getting? I myself am thinking about getting a pair of slip on's.
Possibly getting a ECU reflash also.

We didn't get to run the bike completely stock, so our comparison was between slip-ons with no tune and slip-ons with a tune. Top end gain wasn't too impressive just 2.5 hp and 1 ft-lb of torque. But after riding it around it did pick up much faster and was easier to ride at slow speeds.

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Some people think that 500 RPM divisions between cells isn't accurate enough, and that it should be 250. And that's their opinion

2ND, I am of that same opinion. The Plus for Bazzaz, has better TPS settings. Plus for Dyno-Jet, has better RPM settings.

I am curious why you guys did not go to the 250 RPM ? Would have made fine tuning with Bazzaz far superior over the PCV in every way. I would have switched over. Wish list I guess.

I am curious why you guys did not go to the 250 RPM ?

Like I said, we didn't feel it was necessary to use 250 RPM divisions.

Like I said, we didn't feel it was necessary to use 250 RPM divisions.

ok, would have been the knock out punch for power commander.