$78.18 for oil and filter bought locally. (1 gallon, 1 quart) requires 4.3 quarts

$68.80 on Amsoil website before shipping.

I've got 3500 miles on the bike and now I think it's time.
I'm pretty excited to see if I notice a difference, heat and shifting.
This is my first time running synthetic in a bike. Spent lots of time reading and #1 points to AMSOIL.

The guy at the store said I can easily go 6000 miles between oil changes, not sure if I can mentally though. Lol
I'd. Rather be safe than sorry.
May be willing to do just a filter swap at that time though. I'll have to see what the oil looks like.

I've always been anal about using top notch fluids and changing frequently.
I can also say with all of my many hot rods and toys, I have never had any type if mechanical failure.
And when I play, I play hard.

* Last updated by: mymonster on 2/25/2011 @ 4:56 PM *

With Amsoil, you can go all summer riding season before an oil change. Unless you ride more than about 6,000 miles.

When I drained "Last Years" Amsoil about 3 weeks ago, it had literally been in for 10 months, about 4,200 miles. I could have left it in longer if I wanted, it wasn't going to hurt the engine sitting there up on stands.

This isn't the Castrol I used in the dark ages, which went bad after 3,000 miles and if you left it in over the winter it would pit your bearings as it turned acidic.

To give Kawk its due credit, they've been building engines (as have most marques) which can run on unleaded with no ill effects and are much hardier than those of 20 years ago.

I am convinced AMSOIL is the shit!

The bike is running 1-2 bars cooler, shifting smoother and probably due to running in the mid heat range it feels a tiny more peppy!

I'm sold!!!

I run Amsoil in all my hot rods....It is the very best you can buy for sure! I change it every 3000 in my bike. And once a season in my boat. I've seen 15 to 20 degrees less in oil temps in my boat! That is huge for sure! I ride 10,000 miles a year and if you changed the oil filter every 4000 or 5000 I'm sure you would be fine with changing the oil once a year but like you said....I just couldn't get my head around that....lol

I've recently made the switch myself......always ran Mobil 1 syn in mine - so I'm not expecting miracles with the Amsoil, but peace of mind is good 'nuf reason for me!

This is the first time I've ever used Amsoil. It was suggested to me by my mechanic that it was the best. I'm using 15/50.

Seven

10/40 for me.

10/40 synth is preferred, it matches the OEM specifications out of the tech manual. Works great, as everyone above agrees.

Somefun wrote:

I run Amsoil in all my hot rods....It is the very best you can buy for sure! I change it every 3000 in my bike. And once a season in my boat. I've seen 15 to 20 degrees less in oil temps in my boat! That is huge for sure! I ride 10,000 miles a year and if you changed the oil filter every 4000 or 5000 I'm sure you would be fine with changing the oil once a year but like you said....I just couldn't get my head around that

You are just throwing money away.

I used to run Amsoil in everything and quit because I never noticed a benefit to justify the price and hassle.
As far as the oil looking bad or duration between oil changes, you guys do realize that Amsoil does not contain the cleaners/detergents which cause other oils to turn dark. That is the only reason why your oil seems to 'look' better, but I would imagine a salesman will use anything he can to make it look better to sell another quart. I'm not against Amsoil, I just don't understand why if it's such a good oil, why don't they make it available to everyone and sell it in every store. I think they are selling a name and exclusivity which many people translate into "special". Sorry but I'm not buying it. No offense to anyone's taste in oil but I really never had that profound of an experience. And since I can get about three oil changes for your one what's the point? Sorry to be Debbie Downer. Maybe I'm wrong and it works better in the 14 than it does in my other machines?

There is a wealth of industry experience, ranging from 23,000 pound tractors (the tractor part of tractor-trailer) through passenger cars and trucks, through fleets, showing that good quality synthetic oil can easily have double or triple the service interval of petroleum based oil.

You can find this information, sir, using google, on the web with an afternoons work.

Amsoil just happens to have extraordinary quality control and gets certification tests done by every industry standard test available.

if that's how you see it then that's fine, I'm not here to say you're wrong. Differences in oils are specified by their rating, just depends on which packaging you happen take a fancy too. I like mine to be more practical and down to earth. Amsoil does not have detergents which while keeping the interior of the engine clean make the oil darker as time progresses. Some people equate this to the death of your oil which is only part true. This is evidently something Amsoil feels is important to leave out. I disagree. They may have good QC, I wouldn't know as I have never been to their refinery. Change your oil three times a season or once there are still particles swimming around that engine that can cause damage no matter how pretty your oil looks when it comes out, the simple action of changing your oil is the only way to make sure they are getting out ASAP. I would rather change it more often and see what's going on in there than worry about getting my money's worth by leaving it in as long as some salesman says I can and flushing only once or twice a year. Caustic compounds build up in oil over use and can contribute to metal damage from standing oil, hence why they say to change your oil before you put the bike away for winter and before you take it back out, basically throwing away an oil change to avoid all possible damages that can occur in the engine from standing oil. Is this practical with $80 oil changes, not for me. My decision on oil does not solely center around some laboratory test which only covers a fraction of all the things that you should consider in finding a suitable oil, but rather all the other little things that factor in and might make a slightly inferior product more practical and suitable. As far as your suggestion that I don't know anything about synthetic oil in general that is rather silly of you I think. But evidently there are ignorant people out there since I still see "high mileage" oil out on the shelves from every maker like it's a good thing. Everyone is entitled to his or her preferences without being ridiculed. I just think it's funny that Amsoil types can't discuss it without getting snooty. And don't ever refer to me as 'sir'. I am more of a heathen, shit-stirrer, or cuss. That's all I got to say about it and I'm rather disappointed in myself that I felt I had to say this much.
I apologize for raining on your Amsoil parade. Just ignore me. I am a sucker for oil threads lol :)peace out

Edge, tis not a subject to get testy about. :)

But...

Caustic compounds build up in oil over use and can contribute to metal damage from standing oil, hence why they say to change your oil before you put the bike away for winter and before you take it back out, basically throwing away an oil change to avoid all possible damages that can occur in the engine from standing oil.

This only applies to petroleum based oils. Pure synthetics don't have this problem.

Oil threads...

Good one, Dogo

Edgecrusher; "Amsoil does not contain the cleaners/detergents which cause other oils to turn dark"
Interesting, then why does my Amsoil turn dark when it gets close to it's age limit? As an experiment, I left my wife's car go for a year on Amsoil, and it came out almost black. Amsoil does list detergents on it's website, and it has a very high resistance to acidity. I've been using Amsoil for decades, and everytime I try something else, I go back. Maybe you should read the white paper.
Your text to link here...

I would not of commented on this subject for or against as I will argue only about things I know, reading that link proves for Amsoil with no arguement/debate at all ! as said for the third time today this is the best place to learn

* Last updated by: bean07 on 3/10/2011 @ 1:48 AM *

Um... I love you guys?!?!?!

"Can't we all just get along?"

We are like a family. We do help each other. We even sell parts to each other for obscenely low prices.

So we argue some, it just brings out more information to help folks decide on their own.

But hey, if you call me out, I ain't runnin'. I got shot at, banged up, walk with a cane but I ain't runnin'.....

Even best friends and brothers give each other bloody noses every now a again... We're a bunch of bikers with strong opinions... surprised it doesn't happen more often.

"Change your oil three times a season or once there are still particles swimming around that engine that can cause damage no matter how pretty your oil looks when it comes out"

That's why I use an oil filter. I've never heard of serious engine damage from microscopic particles. It's usually from sludge that blocks oil passages caused by cheap oil. If you have an engine failure/problem, and find particles in the oil, the particles weren't the cause, they're a result.

"change your oil before you put the bike away for winter and before you take it back out, basically throwing away an oil change to avoid all possible damages that can occur in the engine from standing oil. Is this practical with $80 oil changes"

Agreed! Why do it?

I've always had 2 cars and a bike, and did about 10 oil changes a year with dyno juice. Add another car for the wife, and it would be 14. That's about $350, and a lot of my time. Now it's 6 changes a year, and after over 20 years of it, I've never had an engine failure, or any oil related engine internal problems. I had my ZX11 for 14 years, ZX14 for 3, VR4 for 10, SUV for 11, and the wife's Honda for 5. Every motor has run smoother, cooler, cleaner, and just better, after I switched it to Amsoil. Is it the only oil capable of that? I doubt it. I just don't want to experiment with other brands to find out. Mobil1 10-40 in my VR4 turned to coffee in about a month. That's scary! My experiences, my opinion. Not trying to convince anyone to change, just sayin.

* Last updated by: alg8er on 3/24/2011 @ 3:04 PM *

I never change mine twice over the winter, I just change it out at the end of the season and once I put the bike on the stands, change out the oil and filter then restart the bike to circulate the fresh stuff for a bit - shut her down til spring and then I'm ready to go for next season. Any condensation on the oil will evaporate quickly with the first run of the year.

Hey my American bros is it the whole of USA that has an off season ? or do some parts not have an off time ? im curious because I do my oil changes at just before or at the service schedual 5k time, besides getting wet some time theirs no real on off season to speak of here ?

* Last updated by: bean07 on 3/11/2011 @ 5:03 PM *

It gets cold up here in the N.W. States, Bean...

* Last updated by: DogoZX on 3/11/2011 @ 6:36 PM *

Yeh i understand it snows there but does it snow through-out all northern and southern parts dogo?

No, Bean... the southern states rarely, if ever get any snow during the winter... but they get sweltering heat during the summer.