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Created on: 12/23/11 10:55 AM

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Brock's take on the ZX-14R
12/23/11 10:55 AM

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RE: Brock's take on the ZX-14R
12/23/11 11:21 AM

First paragraph and now that shot? Come on... We need some serious riding of that bike. I don't know how much more power that thing has. No tre upsets the bike, no fly out is going to make that bike anything different than the 3-shutters kicking in, besides, no one is on the mode switch in the dirt, on the ice, in the wet TEST....

... Bring that one back, maybe I won't use this one as toilet paper testing my roids. Fun means fast around that turn, ripping one out the rear is the wha-wha-rear end loading and unloading. Front brake stop-pees and I mean lock the front end up. Where is that report? I would have been with the hose behind the bleachers warming up both wheels. LOL

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RE: Brock's take on the ZX-14R
12/23/11 11:35 AM

"the ZX-14R is their opening salvo to let their intentions be known. After all, this mess can’t last forever, and I’m guessing they don’t think their competition has deep enough pockets (or the willingness) to combat their assault. Will they dominate and end up on top when the smoke clears? History will tell the tale".

Didn't I mention this when the new baby got released?


I thought you had a White Helmet with a spider on it Hubster?


"Fun means fast around that turn, ripping one out the rear is the wha-wha-rear end loading and unloading. Front brake stop-pees and I mean lock the front end up. Where is that report?"


That report is yet to be published.Maybe YOU should be the FIRST one to submit your findings with the above scenario?

That KTRC is ONLY operational when it's TURNED ON.If you desire high speed hijinks of the kind you're talking about...turn that puppy OFF.Yer gonna get all the drama you can handle my man.And then some.

That system is not there to miraculously deliver a guy from every and all traction situations.Ferget about the ICE riding!And the gravel pits.Trying to explain the feel of this new bike is virtually impossible Hubster.Kinda one of those deals where....You gotta TRY IT to get the picture So....when are ya gonna TRY IT?This bike is YOU my man...it's got 'the Hubster' written all over it!!!


BTW...THANKS BG for the link and post...way cool...I love it!


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RE: Brock's take on the ZX-14R
12/23/11 12:34 PM

Btw Hub...I looked in my service manual...under "setting Idle Speed".Apparently there IS a way to set the idle speed...HOWEVER...the speed control is an actuator of some sort.Even though it mentions "if the idle speed is'such and such'...adjust to..'such and such'...but it doesn't say HOW to do it.Only mentions the actuator.So....IDK...one place says 'to adjust'...the other says 'no way to adjust'(controlled by the circuit)...it's in there.

You know...some guys here mentioned that "having the KTRC and slipper" were actually gonna mean that the driver would now need LESS skills to operate this bike.I say.....to anyone thinking they're gonna get some sort of 'free ride' to massive performance with minimal skills needs to get one of these birds...leave the KTRC off...and then go rail like you do on your present bike.(assuming you DO rail that is).Please come back and post up your results(if you're able that is )


I can guarantee ya one thing...If yer gonna ride this baby with any kind of authority...yer gonna need all the skills you can muster carvin through yer favorites roads.This deal here can take ya places you may not want to go

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RE: Brock's take on the ZX-14R
12/23/11 1:30 PM

That abstract said, 'work the air screws but leave [the one screw for] the 2 shafts > alone." Home-e don't play that game. I go after all 5 screws. This one says to stay in that Hgmm range or it flutters up and down > The idle sensor there on the right side, sticking out of the right backbone side. You'll have to remove that to gain access to #4 spark stick. I'm thinking those are the larger idle air hoses to that idler sensor.

What I didn't think of recording was too late in thinking. I saw two hot shoes on Keith Code's bmw's doing the wha-wha-out the corner. While they were picking it up, they got on the gas each time a that exit. And each time, take your hand and as if you stuck it out the window, wave your hand like the back end is fishtailing and that was what I saw of that ign/fuel drop.

The only way to know the crap you read is to do it yourself. I don't know who has their info correct if you read the factory (K), explaining that no other bike takes the 3 curtains and shuts down your "Lego." If I read weirdwaysingworldwords, that toilet roll is rolling out that yamaha does the same thing? Only way is buy a bike (like I did) is to find out things for yourself.

Yeah, I'll get one, because that is the only way to squirt the back end all carry the front end to the next traffic light. "You gotta WOT?" I'll get Kruz on it to explain the bike to me. Give it your best shot. I know it's gobs of power more than the old 'farkle.'

I need a hair rump on the back of the neckind of ride IT! WATThe hell did you buy it for? Play with the windscreen? LOL


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RE: Brock's take on the ZX-14R
12/23/11 1:37 PM



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RE: Brock's take on the ZX-14R
12/23/11 1:39 PM

Well...I've got plenty of windscreens to try out!

I think I'll be leaving my KTRC on "1" for now T/Y.


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RE: Brock's take on the ZX-14R
12/23/11 1:40 PM

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooo Not the tank slappers!



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RE: Brock's take on the ZX-14R
12/23/11 1:42 PM

Hubster...this bike can only tankslap IF the front wheel's on the ground silly boy!It can however still do THIS on the rear!!!!


I want your FULL REPORT here on this forum the day you go out and RAIL on yer NEW 14R.....c'mon...time's a wastin!There's one with your name on it at yer local dealer RIGHT NOW!!!!!!


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RE: Brock's take on the ZX-14R
12/23/11 2:47 PM

Hub, you seen the plum ears cleavage on that Busa driver? I know Evel could jump the Grand Canyon in his day but could he jump tat Grand Plummer's Crackage?



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RE: Brock's take on the ZX-14R
12/23/11 5:17 PM

Grn, Look at it like this... Within 6 miles, I had the '06 figured out. I don't know how many laps, 3 maybe? It would be a mild swap, meaning, I swapped with Dogo's bike. The few feet I needed, I could tell the climb in whippage, I let Dogo get ahead. Like riding Secretariat... Let the field go, I have that handicap sticker up there for a reason.

Same scenario with an ape-for-ape ride with [that] group 3. They all ran the mod, which is to gear up the rear. This is so you could have the rpm band right there, not down two gears. That's where I was. They could get me on the straights, I could catch up on the brakes. I'm placing myself in danger if I don't match bike for bike.

I'm not discounting, Brock's/RG/Rag-0-zines take on the bike. That is their jaw drop. Here she is and that was within feet of knowing how Dogo's bike's performed. Here we come down to me, walking into the dealer, having Dogo's bike offered as the next animal. Now, look at it this way if we walked in, bought the R back in 2006. You tell me, is that a step or a hop skip and a jump, 'wee have ha no ha problem jumping hatrick cleavage trick is mow hose ha pow her. How you say?...

... No tick key, no wash she out the wallet. I am packing some punch, because I am going to have this pile for mother teapot anyway. I'm not going anywhere. Color I don't care. It's come down to a draw. My right wrist and two fingers asked if the meat and two sides, are they ready for an R?

If you need a bridge for that C'rap gap-R, problem, Kruz, wait for warmer weather. Those two will drop back down, [when] mother teapot brings the game back up. I ain't got nut-inn for ya... Head back to camp.



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RE: Brock's take on the ZX-14R
12/23/11 5:21 PM

LMFAO kruz you crack me up!!!!



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RE: Brock's take on the ZX-14R
12/25/11 3:44 PM

Already the water cooler rumors start. Who said be nice or you only receive a different color neck year? My neck is not out. My wallet is. Someone pulled the flies already. It has neutered written all over it. My next bike is going to stomp the R. All I need is a 14K down one tooth on the back of this bike, I am R-D's with flies open no more hez like I feel it happen, "ON THE FLY NOW!"

I'm sure if I "ramped" that bike, I'd know how well the front brakes work @ 160+!? No ABS is going to help me. No rear brake to help me. If I want to improve my braking system, I'll apply the rears some day!


Go head... Laugh!


I'm going to bury this money till the....

<<< ... IS WOT I'm talking about.

I'm buying a bullet neckkkk...

... Oh LOOK, BG bought donuts & cough-fee!!!


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RE: Brock's take on the ZX-14R
12/25/11 3:58 PM

"If you need a bridge for that C'rap gap-R, problem, Kruz, wait for warmer weather. Those two will drop back down, [when] mother teapot brings the game back up. I ain't got nut-inn for ya... Head back to camp."

That cleeve-idge looks like two eggs in a hanky Hubster! Can you say 2 moons over Myhammee! Watchit .....you beet that bus driver in the 60 foot, he'll throw his bike attcha!



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RE: Brock's take on the ZX-14R
12/25/11 5:46 PM

I'd like to be able to apply hard brakes at 160...with no worry about lockup.Or leaned in and carving,applying trail braking without worry about wheel lock.It would be nice.But for now...just gonna have to rely on feel and common sense I guess.This slipper however will be nice when downshifting coming into a curve or shifting mid curve for the powerout.Gonna be sweet!

I'm not pulling any flies until there's some real evidence that it won't affect the engine management deal with the KTRC first.No way.That Ktrc is VERY NICE.Want to look into the timing advance as well...see if installing a Muzzy wheel will adversely affect the whole shebang.It just may.


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RE: Brock's take on the ZX-14R
12/25/11 6:20 PM

Grn, this is a 3-amigo rodeo. Subs shut down the air flow speed. Take them out, K-spin is useless. You'll see a failure at too many window signals from the tone wheel. Bet it shuts the fuel/ign = Limp old style.

Wink-wink and the only way to find out is 3-cameras on the fuel gauge/ign window/sub shaft.



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RE: Brock's take on the ZX-14R
12/25/11 6:39 PM

I'd like to be able to apply hard brakes at 160...with no worry about lockup.

If you can't then, why are you writing about this bike? If you only knew how short that ramp is, you'd shit for sure. I have way too much practice at it. Your R is a joe average, you are not even close to a 'top model' bullshit. What the fuck is that clown with the foot off the peg test ride? This is no test ride. This is joe average giving a joe average run at the bike.

Fun for you, rag-0-zine shows me no potential in the dirt... ASS INN, now your in the grass, you over cooked it, now hit the K-spin and get out of ITest. Besides, you don't need that back brake but to check for clutchshebang-bang. Bang, y0ur done with sentence/parashitech it up. But no. I get check my toes need cleats or plasticshedingers on the tips.



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RE: Brock's take on the ZX-14R
12/25/11 6:57 PM

Grn quote
"I'm not pulling any flies until there's some real evidence that it won't affect the engine management deal with the KTRC first.No way.That Ktrc is VERY NICE.Want to look into the timing advance as well...see if installing a Muzzy wheel will adversely affect the whole shebang.It just may."

Flies out or ignition advancer with this model that the professionals can't keep down and with at least 20 more horsepower stock? Are you mad? Really this new bike all 1441 4mm stroker major torque mqchine. Better try it a while I think this is got to be a bike with just a pipe only mod and bope you don't kill yourself.

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RE: Brock's take on the ZX-14R
12/25/11 11:29 PM

"What the fuck is that clown with the foot off the peg test ride? This is no test ride. This is joe average giving a joe average run at the bike". That 'clown' is Brock himself.Think you could outride him? .

"Your R is a joe average",spoken like a true bench racer

"I'd like to be able to apply hard brakes at 160...with no worry about lockup".I said...'no WORRY about lockup'...not...'I've never DONE that'....

'If you can't then, why are you writing about this bike?' This statement matches NOTHING with the body of this post...I'm writing about this bike cause I feel she's(sheesh) a great bike.

You're 'picking her apart' why I don't know...you have your reasons.You've talked about how cool your 14 is...and you should....for sure...And I'm all in on everyone here praising their bikes.I wish more guys would actually talk about their ride experiences like you do.Not just..'my bike has this or I did this to it...or I had her dynoed"...I mean..that's great..I do it myself...but how about some 'real world ride trips"...how ya carved or whatever.

I'd say....go to a say,a Ninja 12R forum and start talking about how you feel about your 14.See what kind of response you get.Try to explain the good things about your 14 to (maybe)guys who've never ridden one.I can pretty much guarantee ya..they aint gonna go along with the props and kudos you tell about your 14.Try it and see.Need some arrows in yer azz?Better take some armour with ya .


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RE: Brock's take on the ZX-14R
12/25/11 11:30 PM

"Flies out or ignition advancer with this model that the professionals can't keep down and with at least 20 more horsepower stock? Are you mad?"...I could be and don't know it maybe?

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RE: Brock's take on the ZX-14R
12/25/11 11:43 PM

"Grn, Look at it like this... Within 6 miles, I had the '06 figured out".....Yer pretty sharp there Hubster...pretty darn sharp


What about your statement..."This FI is new to me".....back a while ago.Referring to the earlier 14's.


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RE: Brock's take on the ZX-14R
12/25/11 11:50 PM

"Someone pulled the flies already. It has neutered written all over it".

Go ride one my man...open er up.Lean hard and punch it through the apex.Then come back and say"neutered".Better yet,get on the gas...downshift in midcorner and punch it....see how ya feel about this new slow-azz bike then.

Get busy on some of your favorite on ramps and off ramps...your own playground there...only spice er up a bit...you know...pull off those same manuevers at 50mph more.Come on back and give a nice write up.I for one want to know all about this new machine....


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RE: Brock's take on the ZX-14R
12/26/11 12:01 AM

I'm just up tonight and BS'n with ya.I don't really care about any of this.What was said...how things get turned around.Statements guys make...even my own.I can't really explain the performance of this new bike.Honestly.I'm not sure any guys who have this bike can.Not really.I just know in myself...I made the right choice for many more seasons of fun riding.Just like I did when I bought my 07.Couldn't really explain that bird to anyone who hadn't ridden it either.S'all good.

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RE: Brock's take on the ZX-14R
12/26/11 4:01 AM

We're glad you're enjoying your new 14R. Many of us will be joining your camp as 2012 progresses and we'll be able to join in on your discussions. For now, I am personally playing the waiting game for the exact bike that I can unload from the truck, open the crate, service the battery, then get busy assembling the miscellaneous items that aren't already attached.

It's too bad that there's snow on the ground in your pictures. I'd love to read about your (and any other's) experiences. The internet is full of dynomometer pulls and dragstrip runs but only a very small handful of articles are written about the actual riding experience.

This is just the wrong time of the year to get the new bike fever. Hopefully mine will get here in January and I'll start being able to add to the conversations. Spring time is just around the corner....


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RE: Brock's take on the ZX-14R
12/26/11 8:30 AM

Flies out or ignition advancer with this model that the professionals can't keep down and with at least 20 more horsepower stock? Are you mad?
Speak for yourself. I think I can hold my own.

Really this new bike all 1441 4mm stroker major torque machine. Better try it a while I think this is got to be a bike with just a pipe only mod and hope you don't kill yourself.
Major torque my ass. Let me decide what is torque out the ass.

Let me put it dis way... There are professionals and then, DARE R professionals.



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