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Created on: 06/26/10 01:33 AM

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Grn14


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Cable help
06/26/10 1:33 AM

Hey all...hope yer all gettin out and havin a major BLAST with yer rocketships.

I have a question here...hope someone can help me out with this.My throttle cables are,well,they "seem" to be just fine.Don't see any damage on em,and they return and take up play through the adjusters seemingly fine.BUT....I think they need to be longer.Maybe I could hang em from the ceiling and attach a 10lb weight on em,stretch em some?I'm not mechanically inclined,but any suggestion I'm willing to try,as long as I can get them longer.Thanks guys....as always..ride safe and above all..HAVE FUN!!!!!


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RE: Cable help
06/26/10 10:05 AM

Why not just buy a longer throttle cable and cut to size?



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RE: Cable help
06/26/10 10:35 AM

blue, Your bike looks stock. I have risers and had to take the slack out of mine the last time I rode it. What gives? Cable making is easy. It's all the hidden tricks that you learn as you go. A cable making How-To would be better shown; what it takes to have a good bond. That is the trick is the cable nipple end process.

1. Measure once. Better you measure long if you make a mistake. This way, you break the solder bond, run the cable up the nipple end.
2. This is then re-soldered with a pen type tip soldering gun or use a flame off a propane torch tip.
3. Flair out all the strands so the solder can bond into the nipple and act like a ball in there. It won't slip out of the solder ball you left the cable all straight-strand.
4. It's better with a visual. Because the strands have to stop before they go behind and then spread out the other side of the nipple. There is where you have to see the nipple has the straight coming out one end, but the strands were pulled into the nipple side where you fill with solder. That is all that critical measuring is the draw-down of the cable end to nipple side.
5. And silver solder is the one to use. That type solder will need a cleaner. So the cleaner has to match the label with it being compatible with silver solder. The 3rd bonding secret is a clean metal surface. Even a grinding wheel to the strands can expose some surface areas on the quick touch to the stone.
6. You are going to have to practice or you have those 3 guys figured out that are key to that brake pressure or clutch pressure. And yes, you WOT that throttle to the nipple ends just as powerful you load up on the snap open. So the bond is everything clean, exposed metals, and proper heat. Not cherry red heat. That is why the practice.
7. Better you start out with a pen type tip. Use a small tip for small work like the nipple ends. A few drops of cleaner onto nipple and exposed wires, you now jam that pen tip into the strands. Get it hot at the start to feed the silver into the tip.
8. But first, you need to prep the pen tip. Get it hot, then brush it off with a steel brush to get the old solder off the tip. You then, 'tin' the tip with silver, then you jam the point into the strands. Then start the silver flow. You have to give it time to heat the strands then have at it.
9. Here is where you see silver come out the other side of the nipple and stop. You want be so close to filling the one side and be real deep down hot so you are that far down in the bond. You have now a cleanup detail on the cable side, she waters out the hole. What with the hand file, the last thing you want to do is nick a strand on the cable side. She's done!
10. START ALL OVER!
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We pretty much have the bond secret figured out? We can make it easy if we rode to the dealer(s) with our cables. We want to see their inventory of old stock even. The more cables at a BIG4 franchise, the better chance you have matching ends and lengths:

1. I'm going to make a cable, sacrifice one side.
2. I want my outer housing ends to match my 14 ends.
3. I can mickey mouse any cable screw system in between the cable for final slack takeout if need be.
4. I have to search for cable end fitting while I am at the many dealers matching something with their stock.
5. I should not misstep the aftermarket independent with their motocross stuff and cable ends that may be on the cheap, not counter shock OEM prices.
6. I'm gonna say screw it, find 2 cables; I am mechanically inclined to call myself one is to become a MeGuyVeer and veer over to the wall socket, plugit in, plug it in with this cable making game and give it a shot I think I've got enough to go on.



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RE: Cable help
06/26/10 1:45 PM

Actually...I was making a JOKE about your statement to Rebus about making a longer cable(looks like the pie's on my face).Yer right,nothing gives.All in fun my man,all in fun.But truly,that was good info on that cable modding...I didn't know you COULD make safe cables "at home".If I ever need a set...think I'll just go with stock(this is my second set)....they really DO fit okay with my risers.Ride safe Hub...especially over those painted double yellow lines .

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RE: Cable help
06/26/10 2:18 PM

Yes, I had a little goof going too. I liked the challenge. How all of a sudden you have a cable problem now? Can you swing that cable all stretched with zero play you can still take out? Swing the forks back and forth she stays at an idle? I didn't think so.



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RE: Cable help
06/26/10 2:49 PM

NO....NO no no no!They're perfect!Nothing wrong Bro.They fit excellent with my double risers(gens and helis).With plenty of cable adjustment left.There IS however,a cool little MINOR mod YOU(of all people)MIGHT want to try out.It's a Rifleman's 1/5th throttle mod.VERY cool.I LOVE mine.No more "double grabbing" for wide open.WEEEEEE. "Twist of the Wrist"(thanks Keith) has a whole new meaning nowadays!!!!

BTW...you say "you had a little goof going on as well"....you mean....you CAN'T make yer cables longer at home?Say it aint so Bro.

One last tidbit on those cable adjusters.I had to remove my lock nuts on the upper adjusters...at the throttle grip end.I cut em off with a pair of dikes.The adjuster sleeves stay just fine.No worries at all.Honestly...I HIGHLY recommend that throttle mod...takes all of about 10 minutes from start to finish.Don't have to do anything to modify the grip housing,or throttle tube.Just the possible removal of the lock rings,as I did.No sweat.(Oh yeah,I forgot...you have to grind down that throttle stop inside the metal casting at the cables' connection at the grip.That's it).


* Last updated by: blue07 on 6/26/2010 @ 3:03 PM *

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