http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDDFUQFydYk&feature=youtube_gdata_player
dude can't ride for shit but oh well.

Hummmmm...I can hear that bike guy's KTRC kickin in....

You can see the ignition curve flatten out...literally. What did he crank the KTRC up and turn the power down? Good thing he wouldn't get in the bubble either. Not to mention the Nice Drag coefficient with the fanny pack on the back.

It just makes me so mad when retards ride big power bikes. I just want to scream. It reminds me of the gangs that have sprayed, +20 in. stretched busas, with big gay orange flames, and chrome wheels...that they don't even race.

Props to the car though, that was sick, I wonder how fast they got up to..

* Last updated by: Phatkaw on 8/31/2012 @ 10:12 PM *

One ZX-14 R owner commented that you're down 40 hp when you have TC on!? No thanks! What's the point of having TC if you're not utilizing 100% of the available power. Do you have to turn TC off to beat a previous gen? I hope not! Then again that would explain why RG had to go to a different gearing in his comparo: Turn TC off and you wheelie all over the place, leave it on and you don't have enough! Does the flash fixes that?

I do believe the guy claiming to own one is making an excuse for the bike because the 40hp is not true.

Stock = 195 RWHP

"A Low Power mode limits you to 75% of peak horsepower, but provides similar low-end performance."

- http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/12/2012-kawasaki-ninja-zx-14r-md-ride-review-part-2-with-new-video/

195 x 0.75 = 146.25
195 - 146.25 = 48.75

Thus,

"Low Power" mode = 146.25 RWHP

Difference = 48.75 RWHP

IMO, Drag king made a completely accurate comment, and I completely agree with it. I've been reading alot of articles lately about how MotoGP might ban electronics because it dulling the skill required to ride. F/I, and ignition is one thing, but when you have the: AFR, Clutch slip, ABS, Traction and ignition mapped out for one corner of a race track? Idk...

Reguardless of the Power mode, you think TC doesn't do pretty much the exact same thing? Pull timing out?

Who is the guy that Claims to own one btw? Why are you being so shitty? I love a good debate, I don't know why it needs to be like that.

* Last updated by: Phatkaw on 8/31/2012 @ 10:50 PM *

I don't own one so take everything I say lightly...

40 hp could make sense though. Brock was talking about an instance were the TC lower power all the way to 155 hp even the most aggressive power mode. I think that he managed to work around it with Don Guhl. That wouldn't surprise me. Take the new ZX-10. To make it a beast you need a flash and a gear change. It could be that you need the same on the 14R! One more thing that makes the race a little weird is that at no point in the video I saw the guy tucking in and resting is helmet on the tank. He's doing a semi-lazy- tuck and don't seem to open the throttle violently. At the end of the day it's hard to tell from a video.

*195 hp is way too high. That's an inflated kawasaki factory number. What I have seen for stock is 186-191 hp. Seno and several others pulled 201-205 hp on the dyno so if it was 195 hp, it would mean that the Brock's pipe and map are good for only 6 hp. No way, I think they yield about 11-13 hp!

* Last updated by: dragking on 9/1/2012 @ 3:07 AM *

I'm not disagreeing with dragking he's my nigga :)
The low power mode limits power to 50%(i believe ) after 6500 rpm.
brocks did do a video about the flies staying closed on the dyno as if it went into a safe mode. It brought peak down alot.
Do I think that's what happened here uhh yeah maybe but to others not on our bikes it would look like excuses being made.
I wish I could've ran this guy, you guys know me I don't street race at all ;)

Still guys we have nothing to be ashamed of!!! Its an EXTREMELY fast car that is struggling to beat a poorly riden motorcycle.
Idk about you guys but here is my logic
15k>120k

IDK about that guy's setup or whatever...but I can tell ya this...my bike accelerates so friggin fast...I'm at 11,500(or more) before ya know it...hitting the limiter.(raised 200rpms).KTRC on '1'...no wheel spin...just blasting power...shifting into every gear at the limiter.I honestly have not felt this 'safety' mode deal that's supposed to be in that ECU to save the rider.Full on throttle(see below)....up through the gears.Mine doesn't hesitate one itsy bit.I've no idea what my peak HP is....but it has to be up there close to 200.

I have to admit however...that I don't jamb the throttle all the way open from the get go.Or when pulling up through the gears.But she rips big time...I'll say that.I 'think' my bike with the right rider could have taken that car...I don't have too many doubts about that.

I've been pretty aggressive sometimes rollin onto a straight...just to see what she'd do...but wide open punching her...no...I haven't been that brave yet(from 1st to 6th).She's still got some tricks up her sleeve;)

I have the rifleman's throttle mod on mine....opening her up all the way is VERY doable.I do know the frontend gets light from 2nd on up through 5th....it has with mine anyway.So I'm not hitting the full on deal yet.I haven't detected any wheel spin when she was rollin like that.Just grabbing and going.

* Last updated by: Grn14 on 9/1/2012 @ 2:06 PM *

In case anyone isn't famailar with what Grn is talking about, this video explains it really in depth, dyno charts and all, by none other than brock himself. It's weird you said that grn, I was just about to post this anyways lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDCs6Pa2p3I&feature=relmfu

* Last updated by: Phatkaw on 9/1/2012 @ 2:26 PM *

I guess mine will go to 12K...didn't know she would...but she did.

STAGED... atleast my 2 cents.. whether or not the car was on racegas we will never know, or I am just oo lazy too look

I'd have to agree....yup...that guy on his Ninja wasn't rockin all the way...no way.

United States based tuner AMS Performance has set record power levels and performance numbers for the R35 GT-R. Their Alpha OMEGA performance package for the R35 boosts output to 1,884 brake horsepower and 1,562 N·m (1,152 lb·ft) of torque and boasts 60-130 mph times of just 3.1 seconds. After adjusting the boost to 29.5 psi, the AMS Performance GT-R reaches a top speed of 233.1 mph.[115] An AMS tuned R35 GT-R was the first in the world to post an 8 second quarter mile time at 169 mph.

Power to weight ratios are similar to our bikes with far superior high speed aerodynamics. The likely hood of running into one of these on the streets though is about the same as being struck by a meteorite, they're rare but nasty!

BTW, these are far from a production car you can walk in off the street and buy and with that kind of boost level I can't see them lasting too long. ZX14R can be had for under $13,000 driveout and comes with a full warranty and will last 100,000 plus miles.

Need to compare this car to a turbo 14R or Hayabusa.

What is Gadsen's best quarter mile time and trap speed on a 14R and what level of mods? I've seen even older 14s run low to mid 8s with a stretch, lowered, piped and tuned, no motor work or turbo.

Mfgs MSRP on the GT-R starts at $89,995, you have to call AMS for the Alpha 12 price, the one in the video. Here's the lesser Alpha 10 package:

AMS Nissan GT-R Alpha 10 Performance Upgrade Package

The AMS Alpha 10 package for the Nissan GT-R combines the stock like driveability of the Nissan GT-R with 1100+ horsepower. That's more than enough power to beat out the world's fastest stock superbike!

Our price: $63995.00

So now your over $150,000 just for the Alpha 10 model, I'm thinking at least $170,000 for the Alpha 12. I think a turbo 14 or Busa could spank it and still have almost $150,000 left in the bank.

Still impressive though!

* Last updated by: Kruz on 9/2/2012 @ 7:47 PM *

And that's all cool, but at a closer look I can't help but think something isn't right about this video...

At 0:04 Seconds, the GT-R plate CLEARLY says, "DRAGTIMES" on it. So in my mind, AMS is in co-hoots with the maker of the video, and who do you think they want to win?

At 0:07 Seconds, it says it on 93 oct. Pump. So for arguments sake, and what it said on the video, it SHOULDN't be 1,888 BHP, more like 1300.

At 0:11 seconds, it CLEARLY says "Alpha", which is the lesser model right? So this isn't even the "Fast" one, and it's on pump, and it spanks a 14R? Somethings fishy right there.

At like 0:17 Seconds, you can CLEARLY see the ZX-14R isn't completely stock. It has a pipe on it, and if it has a pipe on it, we all know damn well that it probably has the Flies out, PCV, PAIR mod, etc, etc.....

The only thing I mean about that is maybe they are lying about the Gas used? Modded 14R > GT-R on pump any day. Pump can just only go so far without water / meth...

At 0:35 seconds, the very first race, the 14R starts to pull away, then, the GT-R starts to SPANK the 14R, and by the end of the race he looks like, idk, 25 Lengths away?!

At 0:56, the GT-R wins, but goes through a bunch more gears than the last time, and doesn't pull away as hard. Inconsistancy to say the least.

At 1:20, the 14R Clearly pulls ahead, and slows down to avoid a Semi trailer. Again, this isn't consistant.

Again at 1:54, A shitload of traffic

GT-R 3830 Curb weight 1000AWHP (Let's just say)
14R 584.3 Lbs 200 WHP

14R P/W = 2.92 Lbs per HP

GT-R = 3.83 Lbs per HP

31% Better Power to weight, AND it's geared Shorter........SOMETHINGS NOT RIGHT!!!!

-Just my 2 CC's,

Joshuah

well...at 1100 hp...guess that Ninja actually didn't stand a chance!

RE: Shitty Riden 14R gets raped by a car
08/31/12 10:14 PM

One ZX-14 R owner commented that you're down 40 hp when you have TC on!? No thanks! What's the point of having TC if you're not utilizing 100% of the available power. Do you have to turn TC off to beat a previous gen? I hope not! Then again that would explain why RG had to go to a different gearing in his comparo: Turn TC off and you wheelie all over the place, leave it on and you don't have enough! Does the flash fixes that?

IMO that 14R owner has no idea how the TC works or what it does. Sounds to me he is using the wrong TC mode of the 3 available. Of the 2 'power modes' available, 'low power' obviously means just that but has nothing to do with the TC. Personally I can't see the point of a dual power option when the bike has TC as good as the system on the Zx14R/ZzR1400.

The 'point' of having TC is so you can get the max amount of the available power converted into actual forward drive without wasting most of it on wheel spin/wheelies etc (this is a ROAD BIKE, remember) and in this context it's probably the best system out there so there is nothing to 'fix'.
JMO

Your are down 25% when in low power mode above about 6000 rpm.

NOT down in power in KTRC.

KTRC will cut power under wheel spin (speed differential) until difference is nullilfied. Less in 1 than in 2 and much less than in 3 (tractor mode).

Low power setting drops 40 to 50 hp off the top. Hint: don't use low power setting when racing supercars, LOL.

Still, I think they must have upped the ante on the GTR even at that or the rider is really a slow poke as the heading suggests.