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Thread: It seems slow now?

Created on: 07/15/12 12:28 AM

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RE: It seems slow now?
07/18/12 3:24 PM

that's why though I like to hear about the big HP numbers they don't make me buy a bike! You get used to 170 hp as easily as you get used to 190hp. Especially the guys who live in flat states. I used to want to max the bike out everywhere when I lived in NE. My uncle used to be fighter jet pilot, he lived in Germany for a while... you shoulda seen him on the autobahn maxing out his Beemer. The sad part is : he looked as if he was bored. If I get a turbo, I won't be able to enjoy regular bikes...

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So very true. I've resisted even riding bikes that I knew were faster than mine:) The big kick for me is as much about usable torque as it is HP. One of the reasons the big 14 is very fun to ride.
At the same time, the extra weight is always there and winding out a ZX-10R or S1000RR while flicking it around can be more exhilerating. If all one is doing regularly is maxxing out the big 14 on flats it can get boring. I will say the 14R is a pretty damn capable bike in the twisties as long as you aren't comparing to the 100lb lighter bike.
At the end of the day we all suffer from some sort of undiagnosed need for speed and thrill seeking; me thinks:)



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RE: It seems slow now?
07/19/12 1:51 PM

DragKing wrote:

that's why though I like to hear about the big HP numbers they don't make me buy a bike! You get used to 170 hp as easily as you get used to 190hp.

True, you get used to whatever you got except when it comes to corners, there it becomes a matter of how much you can use not how much you have. You may find you can take the corners much faster on a near stock 170 RWHP ZX-14 than you would on a 350 HP Turbo bike.

That's why I got bored with the straightline speed stuff and playing the big HP game, it becomes a matter of how fast do you want to spend? Corners are where you build skill and you can't put that on your credit card, you gotta go out there and learn it the old fashioned way. JMHO



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RE: It seems slow now?
07/19/12 2:07 PM

^^^^ Dammit! I got a Discover card just for cornering. Figures.

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RE: It seems slow now?
07/19/12 2:50 PM

@japgman and Kruz: That's exactly what I was thinking about. Straight line races is boring to me. You should just park on the side of the road and compare banks accounts lol
Don't get me wrong, professional drag racing involves reflexes and skills, but those roll ons races....

On the corners, it takes a while to get used to the thrill. You can always up your speed a little, brake later, accelerate out harder etc.



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RE: It seems slow now?
07/19/12 3:47 PM

Straight line races is boring to me.

What?????,,,,, Drag, Kruz say it isn't sooo. Killing me here Lol

I have a bike you are welcome to ride,,,, Tell me if your "BORED" when you get off lol.

I already know that's totally impossible. Your face will tell All. Guys U Must spend some time on a big horse power bike 2 know for sure,,,,, I'm stll far from bored with what I have. More like in love with it 4 reasons you only need to ride to understand.

Simple fact is It's just to dame much fun to put into words. Fun factor is Off The Chart. Trust me.


At the end of the day we all suffer from some sort of undiagnosed need for speed and thrill seeking; me thinks:)

Yep, No more true words could be spoken.


You guys know the answer is to have both,,,tell me I'm wrong,,,, But Boring,,,,,,,,, Naaaa.


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RE: It seems slow now?
07/19/12 9:56 PM

On the corners, it takes a while to get used to the thrill. You can always up your speed a little, brake later, accelerate out harder etc.

Roger that, you'll never stop improving your skills.

Romes, not bustin on the turbo bikes, I'm sure they're a thrill, we're just gettin our kicks in a different way!



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RE: It seems slow now?
07/19/12 11:58 PM

@ Romans: Nah, I know turbos are fun. I said straight line racing is boring to me because you have to go crazy fast to enjoy yourself. I can take some corners at 40 mph and get a rush. Also, straight line speed is too expensive and needs baby sitting. Then you need long straights etc. I came down a fork road and I had to choose between going turbo or getting a track bike (I can't do both) I had to go with the track bike. Why? Because it would improve my skills in an environment where speeding is actually encouraged. If I get a turbo I'm going to see some jail time for sure. My 14 got me in enough trouble. I envy your situation you have both: The turbo, the curve killer, and the mud toy.

Turbo= tickets and jail time
Track Bike= skills improvement and fun
Motocross= broken bones

My choice was easy!


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RE: It seems slow now?
07/20/12 1:36 AM

Roger that, you'll never stop improving your skills.

All about seat time.


Romes, not bustin on the turbo bikes, I'm sure they're a thrill, we're just gettin our kicks in a different way!

I understand Totally. I would be doing the same if Track was closer.

Then you need long straights

same straights, end just comes in a little quicker lol.

I came down a fork road and I had to choose between going turbo or getting a track bike (I can't do both) I had to go with the track bike

Your statement above makes sense but ZX-14 track Bike ? Sorry, I just never thought of the big girl that way. In my mind the 14 was born for 1/4 mile or set up 4 touring. She seems to fit both roles quite well. The 14 for track bike seems like the wrong weapon of choice if you had to choose, but I get it. What's it like ?

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RE: It seems slow now?
07/20/12 1:47 AM


same straights, end just comes in a little quicker lol.

And rear rotors melt lol ssshhhh

Your statement above makes sense but ZX-14 track Bike ? Sorry, I just never thought of the big girl that way. In my mind the 14 was born for 1/4 mile or set up 4 touring. She seems to fit both roles quite well. The 14 for track bike seems like the wrong weapon of choice if you had to choose, but I get it. What's it like ?

Nah, I'm just taking the 14 a couple of times just to see how the big girl does it and laugh at the slow guys on liters I'm going to pass. I'll get a liter...hopefully before next year. I've gotta choose between the Beemer, the CBR and the RC8. Tough choice!



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RE: It seems slow now?
07/20/12 2:01 AM

And rear rotors melt lol ssshhhh

Rofl,,,it can happen.

I've gotta choose between the Beemer, the CBR and the RC8. Tough choice!

Wow, tough one. Pick bike according to the course you would spend the most time on ,,, that Honda has got some bad ass mid range. Tight course have fun trying to get by. Beemer seems to have it all for the bigger road course $$$$$$$$$$. No matter all the above will be a blast. 600R lives 4 the twisties and is a ball to ride. It's just a Shame I feel like a circus bear when riding it, but I do love it.

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RE: It seems slow now?
07/20/12 2:17 AM

Pick bike according to the course you would spend the most time on

You tell me what you think:

20 min from my place



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RE: It seems slow now?
07/20/12 6:55 AM

20 Min Wow,,,, lucky lucky lucky. I'm jealous in a big way. Dogo too has one now finished in his back yard. If only ????

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RE: It seems slow now?
07/20/12 2:01 PM

I told you... buy a house in the states bud lol OR get in a argument with the wify and tell her you need to take some time off to cool off. I have a small apartment but you and Dogo would have a ball! lol



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