Has anyone here tried the new Michelin Pilot Power 3 tyres yet?

Neil

Not yet but waiting for feedback as well.
Currently PR3 but PP3 specs looks promising.

Vmatti,

How are the PR3's compaired to other popular tires you have tried ? Gonna need tires soon, trying to plan ahead.

Thanks

carabuser, PR3 are good, not the best one on track but on speedy_twisted_speedy roads works really well.
I need to change the set after 6000-8000km, ok even they last on my previous Gen2 busa about 10000km.
More power more joy :D

I love the PR3 mine are coming off just cause I wanna use a more sporty tire on my BST'S. They are not track tire for sure but will do ok. The only thing I fault them for it the transition from partial to acute lean which is not linear. My point of reference are Q2's and Rosso Corsa. For a tire that last that long, it handle great in my opinion.
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* Last updated by: dragking on 3/3/2013 @ 2:06 PM *

So the PR3's are better than PR2's ? I know the 2's are a favorite of alot of zx14 riders, I am going to be on the street, not tracks, but I do a lot of higher speed twisties, so would the PR or PP be better ? for what I do ?

Thanks

IMHO if you pushing 75% or more of your skills in the street go with a 50/50 tire
If you under 75% go with a more economic tire. I don't think you will regret the PR3, plus you have TC so you should be able to run a wide range of tire and still have fun! Check racetracparts or sportbiketrackgear they should have the lowest prices.

* The PR3 are better in the wet, due to their new tech, other than that same tire. When it's pouring out there, they'll have you singing in the rain like Gene Kelly.

* Last updated by: dragking on 3/3/2013 @ 6:56 PM *

As dragking said The PR3's are better in the wet, but my personal experience was that they take longer to warm up than the PR2's. Once up to temp grip is very much the same. Either tire is excellent IMO.
Cheers

PR3 are a bit better than PR2, in terms of grip.
PR2 will last longer than PR3.
Both tires are good choices for the road riding and as said above PR3 on wet is the best tyre ever.

I'm gonna test next those PP3 and new Dunlop Sportmax Roadsmart as well.

* Last updated by: Vmatti on 3/4/2013 @ 2:46 AM *

Thanks for all the replies. I think I will go with the PR3's

I've gone through 3 sets of PR2's and 1 set of PR3's on two bikes. Mileage for both (rear) has been about 4,500.
Both are excellent cornering tires, dry or wet, though the PR3 may have a slight edge at both.
I run 34f / 36r psi on both bikes. Most riding is done in the twisties near my home and road surfaces
tend to be a bit rough here in the mountains... hence greater tire wear.

I ran a set of PP2CT's on the Sprint but they lasted only 3,500 rear miles. I must admit however, that I'm impressed
so far (2,000 miles) with the Metzler M5's that came with the 14R. Good ride, good handling, wet or dry with 40f / 42r psi. The only question remaining is longevity. If they hold up, I may go with them again on the 14R, and save a few bucks in the process.

Tom

http://www.yostwerks.com/SortieD.jpg - The Sprint(PR2) and Falco(PR3).

http://www.yostwerks.com/Hwy126Z1.jpg - Testing, testing, and more tire testing. A thankless task,
but someone's got to do it !!

* Last updated by: Werks on 3/4/2013 @ 8:36 AM *

Werks, would you say the M 5's have just as good of grip as the PR2/3's ? I like the M5's so far, they seem to grip pretty good, but like you said, I dont know how long they will last, have heard from other 14 riders that they do not last too long ...

I got 6.5k out of my M5's. My Q2's have much better grip through the twisties. Real confidence inspiring.

Got 4952 out of the oem M-5. Went to Pilot 3's and got 9500 out of them. Both tires are good. Went to another set of 3's but this time went with the 55 profile. Like them really well. Just working up to 18500 miles on the bike and the second set are wearing well with bout 4000 on them.

PR3's are far superior to the M5's on the 14R, IMO.

I put them on in anticipation of a road trip last summer and put the M5's on the shelf for later re-install; M5's still have a coupla thousand miles left on them and they show no cupping etc. M5's would not have made the round trip as they already had more than half the mileage on them expended.

PR3's were fantastic in the mtns and especially going down steep grades in running (gushing) water from a cloud burst.
Combination of PR3's and traction control 3 turns Ninja into a veritable tractor. NO problem in running "rivers" on the interstate and no problem "off-roading" over passes where the pavement was in the process of being removed in anticipation of replacement (I hope!). Here we are talking rock, mud and clay. PR3's were and are still great for some good hard dry pavement riding as well. I could not ask more from a sport touring tire.

I am considering blowing some funds on Q2's for my next set of tires, just cause they will probably finish the riding season for me this new year after I have worn out the Pilots. I say blow the money cause I just want to enjoy the traction they are reported to generate in "less than polite riding" and I am sure they will not return the mileage of the PR3's.

The Metzlers will probably NOT go back on the rims,now. After experiencing the excellence of the Pilot road 3's; I just don't think it is worth the trouble to put them back on for the few mile they have left and have to "suffer" with the reduced performance.

Unless blown away by my experience with the Q2's later this year, PR3's will be back on the missile by season's end.

PaulAB, let us know what kind of mileage you get out of the Q2's (if you get them). I am torn between PR3 and Q2, I dont need to get a hole lot of miles out of the tires, but on the other hand, I dont want them to only last a few thousand miles ....

I DO need a whole lot of miles out of my rubber and Michelin is one manufacturer I haven't tried yet.

Everyone else has failed miserably.

Anybody who can run the Q2's for more than 4000 miles on his 14 needs to give his bike away and get a scooter LOL
I always take the windiest road to a destination and like to merge onto the highway in style and the Q2's were done a little bit over 3500 miles. A lot of liter guys run them here and several Honda and Suzuki owners told me 3000 miles was average life span. I have custom suspension and I'm a debutant so if I gotta switch at little under 4000, you're hooligans aren't going to make it there. Also my 1st generation is lighter and has less power.

I "tested" both tires with a 55 rear and the Q2 appeared to be a little wider. The PR3 are more nimble and are easier to change direction with. In rain, I could follow a more experienced rider sporting a big smile the whole time. I also agree with Paul, they are excellent on roads where the pavement is being removed. Where the Q2 shine is the way the stick to the pavement and the amount of feedback you get. I was able to slid the rear a couple of inches on them without experiencing the oooops moment. I felt like they required a little more effort to turn but once leaned over, this tire is a sure thing like 200k in the bank LOL

Oh and at 400 miles, I could see some marks on the Q2's at under 500 miles I could wash the PR3 and leave them on a shelf for somebody to come buy them. I really don't think it's prudent to out ride the PR3 in the street but when you have the bike on it's ear, the Q2's gives more/better feedback. The PR3 make sure to let you know how leaned over you are while the Q2's don't even budge. I think you will both like the PR3's.I run anything from 34/34 to 36/38, 42/42 is for the dyno and LSR event in my opinion but that's a different topic.

* Last updated by: dragking on 3/6/2013 @ 11:58 AM *

I got @ 2600 miles out of my last two PP 2CT's, and decided to try a PR3 this last time. I checked it last night in prep for my SS1000 ride this weekend...I have 3500 miles on it now and figured I'd be OK.

Most of it looked like this...

Then I spun it and found a 12" section that was worn slick...

CRAP! Looks like I'm headed out to find a tire before Saturday morning...

I'm abit baffled by the accelerated, uneven wear. I check pressure before each ride (38 psi), no burnouts or drag launches, 50/50 combination of flats and twisties, etc. I was hoping to get at least 5k out of the PR3...

* Last updated by: kb377 on 3/7/2013 @ 8:04 AM *

On my Sprint, I had the PR3 in the front and PR2 in the rear.

It worked out really well. The front gripped great in the rain and felt very well planted and I had good long life on the PR2 in the rear.

If your rear PR3 is worn out and you got a PR3 in the front that looks great, just slap a PR2 on the back. I'm going to stick to this combo on the ZX14. I love the PR3 in the rear - but it wore way too fast compared to the PR2 and the extra grip wasn't worth it to me.

Hey KB377
I had the exact same thing happen to me on my old bike. Basically the tyre is out of balance. When they fit it from new it is balanced with rim weights, as you would know. The problem occurs from one or two reasons. Either a rim weight has fallen off causing the tyre to go out of balance ( you would probably feel a slight vibration at higher speeds but not so if it was only slightly out of balance) OR in the manufacturing process something has gone wrong and the rubber compound is slighly softer in that spot causing it to wear quicker. Here in OZ, the first batch of PR2's to arrive were recalled due to inconsistancies in the compounds causing some to delaminate and some to severely go out of balance. Having said all this thou, there is not one other tyre manufacturer that I trust more than Michelin. IMO they make the best range of tyres for the largest range of applications.

Cheers

* Last updated by: svscott on 3/7/2013 @ 5:25 PM *

Thanks Scott...had someone else comment to me today that it was more than likely due to improper balance. I never noticed any excessive vibration though. I'm still a Michelin fan...had a Power 2CT spooned on this afternoon for the trip.

http://zzrbikes.com/threads/81624-Pilot-Power-3-review-first-impressions
Here's a couple of opinions, not much out there
Still weighing it out between Q2 and the PR3

* Last updated by: leo167 on 3/8/2013 @ 3:41 PM *