DEK wrote:
Ivans site says that you must purchase a $200 minimum to get his maps. What's up with that?
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The easiest way is to just buy the pc from him....he has great prices and the maps free. Or if you already have a pc just pick up a set of tires or something else you need and bam!! the maps free

Paladin wrote:

By the way the milage at 80 mph is now 46.8, much better than stock.

Not complaining but why am I the only one getting 28 mpg with this setup? My buddy Ghostrider down in San Antonio went the full Ivan route and he was getting close to 40 mpg.

I kinda felt the same way when I got my 06', great top end rush, but for 83 cubic inches it felt like a 500 under 5K - probably the lawyers - but with flies out, -006 TRE, Ivans map, area P slipons, and a PCIII all is forgiven! in fact, 1st gear now must be used with caution (just the way it should be ) to prevent wheel spin and/or wheelies - 2nd gear too.. all is now right with the world

I'm with ya bro, same setup on mine and I used to giggle myself silly every time I ran through the gears on it after the mods. It took me almost a year to get used to how well it pulled. I have tried to find a flat spot, glitch or burble anywhere in the power curve on this thing and there is none it is as close to seamless as you can get. I'm a big believer in area under the torque curve, that's what makes a bike enjoyable to ride. Big HP numbers may be great for bragging rights but if the power is peaky it's just not enjoyable on street or track. Ivan is known for his useable power approach, I just wish he had something for my CBR. Heck I'd be willing to ship the bike up to New York if he'd work his magic on it.

Kruz

* Last updated by: Kruz on 6/18/2009 @ 9:54 AM *

Romans wrote:

Kruz, all we need is a test drive. That turbo hook might pass us by

Naaa, I'm stayin naturally aspirated, this thing has more than enough for me as is. Anyway, I can live vicariously now through BadinBlack and the rest of the turbo guys.

Ivan also has a new map in 2009 for the 06/07 guys

Is this an upgraded map for 06/07? If so what are the advantages over the original? It sounds like I may need to call old Ivan and see what he's been up to, maybe he's cooking something up for the '08/'09 crowd.

Kruz

* Last updated by: Kruz on 6/18/2009 @ 9:45 AM *

Naaa, I'm stayin naturally aspirated, this thing has more than enough for me as is. Anyway, I can live vicariously now through BadinBlack and the rest of the turbo guys.

Just one tiny winy little test drive. Let's face it, WE don't really want one Do WE ........OK ..I want it I want It. No No No ....... OK a TEST DRIVE ......please

Ivans site says that you must purchase a $200 minimum to get his maps. What's up with that?

Your choice is simple ...Buy something from Ivan that you were going to buy anyway and get free maps. This rewards the tuner for all his hard work. Or Pay for a custom tune fee of 300 or better. Or do both, and then do a map compare with dyno #'s

Over here in the UK I have just had my flies out bike remapped with the stock ECU and taken of the Power Commander.

Found a specialist who can reprogramm original ECU and also has a dyno with RAMAIR:

http://www.dynapro.co.uk/

It also gives real horsepower and torque in real time (Dynojet Dyno's are software based and cannot really measure power and torque accurately)

Check out the PDF's from a magazine interview with dynojet where they admit they could not figure out what a horsepower was!

http://www.dynapro.co.uk/true_hp.htm

Anyway bottom line, this guy could remap the stock ECU (Which apparently is very sophisticated)

I now have :

* Each gear with it's own map
* Each gear map is mapped individually for each cylinder
* Timing has been altered as well as fuelling (Per gear of course)
* Real time road speed RAM Air simulation during mapping

I gained 10BHP whilst I was there, not sure how it compares as the dynojet showed 174.5 when I had it setup last year, the dynapro showed 156BHP on arrival and 166 when I left, I will get it back on the dynojet one some time and see if I am showing over 180 now!

It now seems a lot smoother and ticks over perfectly (it used to hunt - but then they all seem to do that stock) you can't even se the rev needle flicker at idle now!

Power does seem better especially in upper mid-range (6-8k) although not a great gain below 5k from seat of pants or dyno graphs.

It also vibrates a lot less when cruising - no more numb hands!

Cost £350 for the job, in the UK we pay £250 for a PC3 and £150 - £200 for a map, so pretty good, especially as if you throw in the DJ parts for ignition and multiple maps you would spend a fortune.

Apparently he can also alter fly timing, rev limiters and anything else.

For the UK guys try here;

http://www.hilltopmotorcycles.com/

It now seems a lot smoother and ticks over perfectly (it used to hunt - but then they all seem to do that stock) you can't even se the rev needle flicker at idle now!

Interesting, I've mentioned that hunt or surge at idle as I call it several times but nobody else seems to know what I'm talking about. Mines done it since day one and the morning I picked mine up, Lucky14 pulled up on his '06 and I commented on the fact his was doing it to. It's much more noticeable since uncorking the Yoshi's restrictor insert, it's like the idle feedback digital control loop is not functioning properly i.e. constant overshoot, undershoot. I see this with our FADEC controlled aircraft engines, clearly visible in the data but not noticeable when the engine is running due to high inertia (flywheel effect) of the propeller.

Kruz

* Last updated by: Kruz on 6/19/2009 @ 7:16 AM *

These are high performance motors with big lumpy cams for their size.....just like a 60's muscle car with the big lopey idle. Their never gonna run glass smooth...if they did they wouldn't perform like they do. But their IS a diff between a lumpy cam idling with an even lope, or a hunting/surging idle from out of synch TB's, vacuum leaks etc. Some folks do mistake the cammy idle of a sportbike for a prob tho, especially when comparing it to their smaller cammed cars which usually idle so smooth you can't tell their running