I tend to use the turtle wax car wash as well because it's not aggressive and cheap so I don't feel bad using it up. However, I just started using a degreaser called Purple Power which is a knock off of another name brand but it works great and is super cheap. I bought a gallon for $7 last year which is concentrated and filled one of my Westley's Bleach White sprayers (work good to foam the solution) along with some water and have been using that ever since. Gonna last a long time and it save me from having to use the brake cleaner for the gooey stuff like the chain and wheels.
2004 Electra-Glide Classic Peace Officer Black, Rineheart true-duals, HID with Hella headlight bucket, Goodridge SS brake lines, saving for DJ PowerVision FI controller and K&N large cap. kit.
2004 Suzuki Katana 750 (wife's but doesn't ride anymore) (fo sale), Hindle exhaust, K&N air, Dark metallic blue w/ blue led accent lighting.
1983 Suzuki GS750ES under construction(perpetually)