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Created on: 12/17/12 04:06 PM

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rocketman



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info about slipons ???
12/17/12 4:06 PM

so someone help me out about 2012 mufflers......

does the center collector have a catalytic converter ?

does each muffler have a catalytic converter ?

if i put any kind of aftermarket mufflers on they will pop on deceleration ?

at inspection do they put a air-tester in your mufflers ?

is a 4 into 1 slip on made and would that help on the decel popping issue?

THANKS FOR THE HELP !

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ryanc


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RE: info about slipons ???
12/17/12 4:29 PM

so someone help me out about 2012 mufflers......

does the center collector have a catalytic converter ? Yes

does each muffler have a catalytic converter ? Yes

if i put any kind of aftermarket mufflers on they will pop on deceleration ? Most will get it tuned to suit the mufflers/ system.

at inspection do they put a air-tester in your mufflers ? Where are you located ?

is a 4 into 1 slip on made and would that help on the decel popping issue?

THANKS FOR THE HELP !

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RE: info about slipons ???
12/17/12 5:16 PM

If you get a 4 into 1 you are going to need some kind of fuel managment, power commander etc .. that will probabaly get rid of the decel, along with plugging the airbox, and hose that goes to airbox, I have slip ons,and I plugged the airbox and hose and was still getting some decel pop, only thing that helped was I put the quietest noise inserts that two brothers makes, that helped the decel pop a lot, mine is a California model, I dont know if that matters, but I think it has extra emissions crap on it, more so than the other models



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RE: info about slipons ???
12/17/12 6:08 PM

Ive got a 2012 model and when i removed the exhaust, I did noticed that there's no cat in the mid pipe only on the muffler pipes.
I went with a four into two, into one, form Akra and also did the Block-off plates and a PV5 so far no popping on decel, as far as the inspection, like ryanc stated it depends on your location, hope it helps.


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RE: info about slipons ???
12/17/12 6:22 PM

The Euro and Aussie spec bikes have a cat in the collector... US spec bikes do not.



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RE: info about slipons ???
12/17/12 8:37 PM

"The Euro and Aussie spec bikes have a cat in the collector... US spec bikes do not"...KEEEERECTO!

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RE: info about slipons ???
12/17/12 10:45 PM

I agree!

With this cat in the collector, there is very little popping. It is why I have not upgraded the headers!

Neil



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RE: info about slipons ???
12/18/12 5:52 AM

Good Info gentleman,I had no idea that the EURO bikes had a cat in the collector...learn something new everyday



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RE: info about slipons ???
12/18/12 8:35 AM

yes ! euro bikes have cat too :)

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RE: info about slipons ???
12/18/12 10:15 AM

Are you sure there is no cat in the header on US models ? manifold-comp-exhaust 39178-0174 is US part number and the service manual says that it has a cat in there, but no Oxygen sensor I think it pages 270-271 will try and post pictures later ....



2012 ZX 14R, Cblast ECU Flash, (RECOMENDED !!!!) 2 Brother slipons, ZG marc 1 windscreen, yosh fender eliminator, Pazzo Levers, Powerbronze hugger, heli bars, competition werks footpegs, Throttlemeister Cruise Control, CF Heel Guards,

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RE: info about slipons ???
12/18/12 2:12 PM



2012 ZX 14R, Cblast ECU Flash, (RECOMENDED !!!!) 2 Brother slipons, ZG marc 1 windscreen, yosh fender eliminator, Pazzo Levers, Powerbronze hugger, heli bars, competition werks footpegs, Throttlemeister Cruise Control, CF Heel Guards,

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RE: info about slipons ???
12/18/12 3:44 PM

I haven't cut open one yet but Ivan has and found no honeycomb.



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RE: info about slipons ???
12/18/12 4:41 PM

Are you sure there is no cat in the header on US models ? manifold-comp-exhaust 39178-0174 is US part number and the service manual says that it has a cat in there, but no Oxygen sensor I think it pages 270-271 will try and post pictures later ....


If you look at post #4 I included a picture of my ZX-14R header that was removed to install the Akra full System, the only thing in the collector is a divider...that's it.
Looked at the headers and nothing either, so I guess the cats are only in the mufflers themselves, unless I got one that was put together on a Friday afternoon lol..



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RE: info about slipons ???
12/18/12 8:27 PM

The Euro bikes have to meet Euro 4 emissions I think this is one of the toughest emissions standards in the world to meet.



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RE: info about slipons ???
12/18/12 9:02 PM

Don't know where those page numbers came from...certainly aren't in the service manual I have...2012 zx14R.I checked my headers(from my 2012)...only that separator plate...no cat.

I googled those part numbers...in all the sites that have that parts diagram(several)...none show a cat in the collector OR the mufflers...IDK where that pic came from?I do remember seeing a schematic of the mufflers and headers...they showed the muffler cats in em.The header?I don't remember seeing a cat in that part of the diagram.And I remember being 'relieved' that I wouldn't need to cut the collector open to remove a cat.


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carabuser


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RE: info about slipons ???
12/18/12 9:27 PM

Got the picture from the online manual from this site, the part number says it has a cat, I dont know maybe a misprint, because someone said Ivan cut one open, and there wasnt a cat ?



2012 ZX 14R, Cblast ECU Flash, (RECOMENDED !!!!) 2 Brother slipons, ZG marc 1 windscreen, yosh fender eliminator, Pazzo Levers, Powerbronze hugger, heli bars, competition werks footpegs, Throttlemeister Cruise Control, CF Heel Guards,

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1980 GS 1100
1978 GS 550
1968 CL 350
1972 TS 90
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"Socialism is a philosophy of failure,
the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy,
its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.."
Winston Churchill

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ryanc


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RE: info about slipons ???
12/18/12 10:42 PM

Dont the american bikes come in a couple of dirfferant emission specs, California is stricter or something like that?

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RE: info about slipons ???
12/18/12 11:47 PM

THAT could be.Mine didn't have one in the header.

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