Are you kidding me?
Every day I visit this Site, somebody crashed.
I bought the first ZX14 to hit town in 2006, traded it in on a 2008, bought my Connie in 2010, kept it and bought a 2012 leftover a couple of Months ago. Haven't put a scratch on one of them the whole time. I roll hard, too.

Very hard.

Quit crashing your bikes, Holmes. The best handling, best brakes, best engine squirt out of the way bikes ever made.

Not dissing guys that have been dealt a bad hand, and I could die tomorrow on that thing, but seriously, you are jacking up my insurance rates. Cut It Out!

Look way out there, and expect everyone is out to kill you. Know what they are gonna do before they have a clue.

Hmmmmmm, well, hmmmmmm, Jimmy, for sanity's sake, I'm gonna leave that remark...alone. Just to suffice to say, I'm SURE you aren't ANY more disappointed, down in the dumps, upset, scared, freaked out, etc.... about your insurance rates than he is crashing. Sheesh dude.

Sic

Just sayin.

* Last updated by: sickninja on 9/21/2014 @ 9:11 AM *

BTW, I've owned 6's, 10's,11's and a 12.

I did skid my 12 down the street after a brand new set of skins, and a cocktail or two. Wife on the back. Learned from that.
Rode it home.
Crashing sucks.Cut it out.

Just sayin'.

Dang! No worries, was just poking fun. I really have a VERY "Sic" sense of humor!

Sic

I'm cool with all backlash. I can take it, or I wouldn't dish it out.

Just hate seeing all the wrecked bikes here. Just joined, and it seems every day a new totaled bike.
How many people are on this site, and how often do we ride. Surely I don't crash every 100 times I ride.

Just trying to wake someone up, and alert them.

Man it just happens. I've logged so many miles over the last 10 years on 3 different bikes. My 99 zx9 I got in 2002 with 3k on it. Sold it in 2013 with 80k plus on the clock. Only 2 slow speed low sides on on bad roads..no real damage. 06 zx10 got in 2008 with 6k on it. Up to date 52k on it. Last 3 years put 30k and over 30 track days on it. Motor wore out. Time for a rebuild. No crashes. 2012 zx14 put 28k on it in less than 2 years. Freak accident involving jay walker in commute traffic causing 3 car pile up. Me included. Bike totaled. So roughly 160k plus miles on 3 bikes plus similar milage driving a car. In the last 10 years. Odds are you do that many miles something gonna happen sooner or later. That doesn't include the ohh shit, stupid riding, racing, and shit I got away with without incident. Trust me crashing is not something I like to do. Sometimes bad things happen when you least expect it and there's no way around it.
Ride safe brothers.

* Last updated by: Blkcasper on 9/20/2014 @ 12:19 AM *

jimmy buy a lottery ticket and pull the hourshoe out of your ass. I've never gone down yet. My latest crash was my closest call - managed to wrestle her to the shoulder. But that said, I don't challenge the inevitable and the fact is we all go down sometime.

That said it was a rough year for 14 owners.

I dropped mine over the 4th day I had it home but I didn't report it to insurance. I was afraid of what reporting a wreck would do to MY insurance. I don't care about what the rest you guys have to pay. ...but if it helped keep it from going to high, all the better!

Some things have 'almost' nothing to do with being on a motorcycle...things you can't control.Like other people.Riding defensive is instinctual for us guys(and gals).But that only goes so far.You look at most(if not all)these crashes here...it invariably is the result of a cage doing something that they do....drive a car...not a bike.WE can't know what'll happen around that next curve...or a driveway...or someone entering our lane at the wrong time.NOBODY enjoys wrecking....I hope;)Personally..I've had some VERY close calls...and a few wrecks(that DIDN'T involve other drivers)...but it happens.Us 14 riders...fwiw...ride a tad more 'out there'...that's why we got these bikes...to challenge ourselves.Among other things.Wrecks happen.I'm REALLY glad for some that they haven't crunched.The time may or may not come...Having a bike like this(or any bike)upps the odds it's going to happen...sometime...somewhere.Sorry about YOUR insurance rates there...nobody MEANS to dump....and for all those who HAVE crashed(me included)...stay alert and ride well....there IS a BIG lesson to be learned from wrecking...those who haven't plain and simply haven't experienced the knowledge that comes from 'being there'....not that they should...but....wrecking isn't ALWAYS a 'bad thing' in that respect.

Pro racers do it all the time...and that's without the dangers of riding the street;)

* Last updated by: Grn14 on 9/20/2014 @ 7:21 AM *

Not been down yet(knock on wood)!

You look at most(if not all)these crashes here...it invariably is the result of a cage doing something that they do....drive a car...not a bike.

This isn't accurate at all. Half the accidents here have been single vehicle/loss of control, vs another driver.

Theoretically (and according to MSF AND CDL training) every accident is avoidable if you're safe enough. I know idiots here didn't really get my video I posted where I prevented myself from becoming car door filler, but others have viewed and been like great job vic (even an MSF instructor). If I hadn't been riding defensively in that manner, I would've been posting my pictures here.

It's not enough to see what is happening, you have to see what could happen. Constantly while riding, almost like terminator vision or something calculating potential threats (this basically how I ride and yes, I still enjoy riding extremely). Keep in mind, this is theoretical, one very real exception I will always make is deer jumping out from woods running into a vehicle. I mean, it's preventable possibly but like someone doesn't know if riding 30 mph, 130 mph, or 55 mph was the one and only correct speed to avoid the deer jumping out at just that moment.

As far as vehicles, you're better off just assuming you aren't even seen than assuming you are. Or to say, ride as if you're invisible.

As I've always said, it's great to be in a motorcycle accident and it's determined the other drivers fault. But this is the absolute worst way to win that I can think of.

I have been riding since the 80's with over 16 different bikes over the years and up until that day I had a flawless record and feeling confident . This accident witch only caused bike damage thank god will not deter me and hopefully other from owning motorcycles . I will ride again !

44yrs old , married and father of 2
bikes I have owned :

1975 honda 550four super sport
1978 suzuki gs550
1978 kawasaki kz750
1985 kawasaki ninja 600r
1985 kawasaki ninja zx900
1985 honda vf1000r
1993 yamaha fzr600
1995 kawaski ninja zx7
1999 honda cbr900rr
2001 yamaha r1
2005 suzuki hayabusa
2006 suzuki gsxr 1000
2006 kawasaki ninja zx10
2007 kawasaki ninja zx14
2009 harley davidson fatboy
2006 harley davidson street glide
2013 kawasaki ninja zx14r

to be continued......

* Last updated by: star on 9/20/2014 @ 10:30 AM *

what is a cager

Cager= some one who drives a car and uses cars as mode of transpo. A cage is a metaphor for a car, Ie inside a cage. - I'm 42 and been riding since 21. Too many bikes to list. We all visit the down fairy and pay wreck tax. Don't call things out, fate has a funny way of hearing and heading your call.

I have been riding since the 80's with over 16 different bikes over the years and up until that day I had a flawless record and feeling confident

Don't take this personal Star. My reply about grn's statement that accidents reported here have only been due to cars. Sometimes I read things people write here and am just dumbfounded. I know you've been here a while, but it doesn't seem like you've been posting until recently. It seems like just the time you started posting, there were two people that had single vehicle accidents that had nothing to do with other drivers. I think in the last month (maybe 45 days), you're probably the 6th accident. That's why we're all like 14 riders are dropping like flies!!! This must stop!!! That's what we're really on about.

Your record is extremely impressive. Even with this accident, your record is still excellent. I had friends that rode that went down 1-2 times a season and they weren't doing anything I didn't.

This is my 5th season riding, over 16,000 miles accident free and I'm proud of that. Just hit 3200 today on my 14R, rode a 120 mile jog, came home, washed it. Rode it to dry off and lubed the chain. Like you, if I never have a down I'll never miss it. If it happens it happens, that's the axe we all face as riders. However, anyone that rides knows the risks.

Look forward to seeing pics of your next 14R

BTW - I had a VF1000F my first 4 seasons of riding. my best friend had a VF1000R. Had a lot of fun with that bike.

* Last updated by: VicThing on 9/20/2014 @ 3:10 PM *

Don't call things out, fate has a funny way of hearing and heading your call.

Fates for weak-minded people. It's just another bullshit thing for people to point and blame something on, instead of accepting blame themselves. Like I've said before, a lot of riders believe "it's not if, it's when." I've never bought into this notion, maybe riders that do have sealed their own fate.

One things for sure, I may have an accident sometime. It's not beyond the realm of possibility. I sure as hell won't blame fate for it. Hell I'd rather blame Santa Claus or Easter Bunny.

Tried to sell my bike on commission at the local dealer's when I was "recovering" from surgery and complications thereof and it looked like I would never ride it again.

No fewer that half a dozen peeps and some in their 40's (not teenage squid candidates) qualified to buy it thru the dealer but could not afford to insure it. I know Geico was named one of the companies that wanted an excessively high insurance premium.

One middle aged guy, supposedly with no outstanding driving citations, was quoted 5 grand!

I'm ancient and my insurance is an add on to the policy family I have for home and autos and I have been with this company for 50 years. My bike is insured year round like a car and the rate is just over 500 dollars a year. My company does not insure bikes unless as an additional policy to a family of policies.

I am told that part of the reason for the slow sales in sport bikes is due to the cost to insure them compared to a cruiser or big touring rig. Our favorite hyper-model is also on the shit list because of its well known capabilities to provide a need for speed. Speeds that do not usually allow for repair of bike or cheap repair of the pilot if he/she survives.

Unfortunately, it is part of the cost of entry to this world and unless you have an insurer of home/auto/farm and provider of financial services to add the hyper bike to your policy group; you are gonna pay a premium or start looking for cool cruisers with a bit of performance in their design.

The wreck rate we have seen on the list this season is testimony to the nature of the beast and the root of the insurance problem.

Good luck out there!

"grn's statement that accidents reported here have only been due to cars"...wrong...read again Vic...Aside from Bean's crash....look at the pics of wrecks on this site...sheesh....and as for 'not being safe enough"....thus wrecking...fer God's sake...YOUR close call was virtually identical to mine....yet we both took a different avoidance measure.We both escaped.It simply wasn't in the cards that day to have a different outcome.Call it what you will...skill,chance,fate...whatever...IF someone decides to pull in front on us at an intersection...and we're doing 'everything' right and safe...and they plow into us....what then?Poor safety skills?Being a 'lesser' rider?Needing MSF classes?(which are good btw).Since you've NEVER been in a wreck...trying to say that those who have are somehow 'beneath'(and that's what it sounds like to me)...remember this...."Pride goeth before a fall"...whether it's today or 6 years from now.Like it or not...mock it or not...you can't escape it....place yourself 'above' everyone else...you'll get your battle scars....trust that.

Let me run THIS scenario past ya...and see how yer skills save ya.

You're rollin along...beautiful Saturday morning...doin the speed limit...you're really enjoying the moment.Weather's great...the world is good.You do as you always do...you approach the curve nicely centered in your lane...you can't really see through the corner...but you've ridden this curve hundreds of times.You KNOW this curve.It's safe..always has been.You glance down at yer speedo....you look up...here's a truck 'missing' the curve...FUCK...he's IN your lane...he's doing 90 through there...that's a combined closing speed of.....160 mph.You have precious seconds to do SOMETHING.There's a cliff on YOUR shoulder..and only a barbed wire fence to stop ya from goin over.If forgot to mention....you have just lost 2 precious seconds dealing with the reality of what's happening...you 'attempt' to apply hard right push....which...unfortunately at that speed,only causes you to veer into that fence...now at 55 since you've already slammed on the brake.He just BARELY slips by ya...but...too late now for you...as your front wheel leaves the shoulder...and plows into and THROUGH that flimsy fence...well...you know the rest....you wake up in the hospital....count your 'skills' stars...and say..."shit...fuckin cage!"LOL!!!!

"Fates for weak-minded people"...that's...'fate's'....that's how ya spell it.You can condemn others here for having a wreck...but ya can't spell worth a shitLOL!!!!Get it together,will ya;)

"it's great to be in a motorcycle accident and it's determined the other drivers fault"....how would YOU know...it can't happen to you.That's one of the statements you've made here that truly tells me....you're on borrowed time my friend..That deer out there is gonna jump OVER you...no worries.(actually had that happen once).

"Fates for weak-minded people. It's just another bullshit thing for people to point and blame something on, instead of accepting blame themselves". What IF...those people point and blame themselves?You think that JUST might make them a better rider?I do.Only one here 'blaming' any of us for having a crash...is YOU.Get over yerselfLOL!!!

If it aint a 'near miss'...as some here have experienced(probably more than once)it'll be the real deal up ahead...sometime,someday...if ya ride long enough that is;)And I don't wish or hope that on ANYONE.Just the nature of people...living their lives...in their own worlds...most WITHOUT a 'motorcycle' mentality mucking things uplol!

You making sweeping statements about us here and throwing out remarks about some of our(supposed)poor driving skills is really not needed.Guys here have almost(in some cases)bought the farm...at least have some respect and thanks that they made it through.Hell of an attitude towards your riding brothers,tell ya that.

* Last updated by: Grn14 on 9/20/2014 @ 11:37 PM *

Your text to link here... I will add I was 23 when I first crashed then @ 48yrs old!

* Last updated by: bean07 on 9/21/2014 @ 3:45 AM *

Vic - I liked your response!
I don't carry a rabbit's foot, and I don't see a card reader! But I do not or will not proclaim verbally or write something about "never" going down. Makes me nervous. As is my point about calling it out. But yeah, some folks are pragmatists and see life as a calculated series of choices and reactions and some believe in Karma. I always believed and still do, what ever you put out in the world, may it be hate, anger or arrogance, comes back to you and vice versa. Whatever u believe the resolute fact is we all love the sport that can kill us. I came close to that when I hit a bag of gravel on the 400 and wrestled my bike away from the guard rail and watched my steering damper explode all over my visor. Now, I've been running hot all summer and you could say it was my turn, or I was at the wrong place at the right time, stayed relaxed and pulled the bike over to the side. But all navel gazing and reality aside, I almost didn't come home to my two kids.

Green,
I agree calling out folks about wrecking and being at fault is an arrogant position (not sure if that's the intent). But all that said, the skill bucket and the luck bucket always needs to be full on a 14r. If either is lacking, it's just a matter of time. The Hurt report cited inexperience as the highest cause of motorcycle incidents. The second was drivers not seeing motorcycles at intersections or blind spots. I might add texting, bbm, might end a few more riding seasons.

* Last updated by: Wolfman on 9/21/2014 @ 5:54 AM *

.wrong...read again Vic...Aside from Bean's crash....look at the pics of wrecks on this site.

Wolfman is just posting how he had a single vehicle accident. Yet you're saying bean is the only one. Huh...who has facts mixed up now?

As far as the other bs along the lines of "vic you're saying you'll never have an accident" or and grammar corrections...just LOL.

Also you say something about the close call video I posted and you having a similar situation. I thought that was just no big deal? I thought it was just normal? Asshole.

Green,
I agree calling out folks about wrecking and being at fault is an arrogant position (not sure if that's the intent). But all that said, the skill bucket and the luck bucket always needs to be full on a 14r. If either is lacking, it's just a matter of time. The Hurt report cited inexperience as the highest cause of motorcycle incidents. The second was drivers not seeing motorcycles at intersections or blind spots. I might add texting, bbm, might end a few more operator's season.

LOL his little jedi mind trick worked on you.