any reason not to use diesel fuel over kerosene for chain cleaning.Its a lot easier to find,
(HUB?)

* Last updated by: darryle on 12/21/2015 @ 3:55 PM *

Diesel, kero, gas, oil, are like detergents or cleaning agents in some way. Sure, choose any of those to cut the tacky spray off links, grease, old gear oil, etc. It's who grows/eats/cracks the orings? If I lined up 3 shots of the first 3 cleaners, dropped an oring in each glass, pulled them out in a few days, compared who grew? I'd then eliminate that detergent for cleaning purposes.

Hubanese to English Translation:
Any solvent would technically work, the concern is damage to the o-ring. If you take a cup full of diesel another of kerosene and a third full of gasoline and let an o-ring sit in the cup for a few days you can tell which solvent will be absorbed the most and would thus be the worst solvent for cleaning.

On a side note, check any camping supply store, I bought a huge jug of kerosene from Canadian Tire for only a few dollars as they sell it as "camp stove fuel".

http://www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/woods_-clear-kerosene-0762139p.html#.VnlqpBUrKUk

The one I bought was around the same price but literally 10-20 times bigger but you get the idea.

Diesel fuel is fine for chain cleaning

"Hubanese to English Translation"...LOL...sounded pretty damn clear to me;)Most excellent comment about the ring swelling.

Besides...the manual says kerosine.Why experiment with something else?

+1 and Kerosine has been discussed as having no impact on the o-rings (don't ask me for the citation/reference data)

That's all over this forum in several threads. Some still trust WD-40 but not me. I heard the warnings and tried anyway then I saw the signs of warn Orings. WD doesn't do a better job than kerosene and it's not cheaper. A chain is a lot of work and expensive to replace so I don't risk it for the sweet smell of WD. I'd use it for things that have no rubber. It also might make a nice aftershave balm.

There are dedicated chain cleaning solvents out there, but I just use Liquid Wrench o-ring safe chain lube. Plenty of solvent to cut the old chain lube and crud off and lubes the chain at the same time. Then it's back to the BelRay Superclean every 3-500 miles when the rollers get shiny.

WD-40, kerosene, diesel fuel and other solvents MAY or may not be safe for the o-rings, but like any tool intended for something else, it's not as good as something that was intended for what you need.

30,000+ miles on the last chain, so I must be doing something right.

* Last updated by: Danno on 12/23/2015 @ 2:24 PM *

That's my favorite thing about using gear oil. kerosene? diesel? wd 40? no thanks with any of it! How about gear oil to clean and gear oil to lube. Quick and simple and the chain loves it!

I use the Motul chain cleaner and there's no questioning if it's safe and it works amazing. It melts off as soon as it hits it.

+1 on the Motul chain cleaner, and it doesn't stink the whole place up !!

This is what use and it works great and doesn't have a foul odor and works great.

Snuffy

Hey snuffy, how the heck are you? Hope your back to 100% and ready to ride this summer. I'm thinking on putting a ride together in June, I think you city boys should head north again. Maybe Lake placid or over to Vermont.

wfozx14 - If your ride is open entry, post up details of it. Us Floridians have the overnight Amtrak Auto Train to eliminate much of the highway droning part of the route between FL and NY, and I've never ridden N of VA.

Extrap- of course your invited as well as anybody interested. I will post up details in the group ride section soon.