Hub,
that's great to hear that the famous tre is just a lie.Are you planning to link the video or post it here?
Thanks again
AJ

So Gee Hub, are you saying the TRE locks down the timing or what?
I mean, how do you REALLY feel about IVAN TRE?
Curious in Tucson

Well ok then. Lets see if I get this right then. To recap....

Ignition curve wise, full advance at 2K (as per the big thick white book from the good folks at Kawasaki) is indeed, full advance at 2K. Hard to advance much quicker than that.I was curious to see if there were ignition specs for different gears indicationg otherwise. But no sir-e-bob.

Now ages ago the GSXR's had what some called "a wheelie wire", which really did sit on the ignition advance in first gear. I've actualy seen it do its thing, and I believe the servive manual even mentioned it.

But no. Not even an ignition map to impress the reader says Kaw. I suppose graphing "Initial to Full Advance over 2000 Revs" could be coma inducing for the gifted (or impossible for the publicly educated).. Indeed, not a powerpoint presentation by any measure, but I digress....

Playing with various combinations of the GPS (Gear Position Sensor), as per Senior Hub, woud seem to compromise either the low end, or the mid/top end fuel mapping. Interesting theory indeed, you twisted space-frog. Sure seems plausible too, I'm sure I'll be investigating that line of thought in the near future.

Why do I really give a hoot anyway? Well first, there's the ZX14 Forum groupies. Undeniable, yet unconfirmable. A bonus no doubt, but then there was this TRE on the 07 ZX14 I bought 4 months back. Found the Ignition advance thing curious and then started wondering if the TRE was screwing up a perfectly good map, mid to top end. Hey hey, theres something else I can look into!

See ya in the funny papers.

* Last updated by: AzZX14 on 8/28/2009 @ 10:15 PM *

Ivan TRE locks fifth gear hear iz my take on this. Higher the number/less gas. This is gonna hurt abstract is before I do is step in dog poo is give that theory against what you are about to witness is think in steps that no throttle is lowest volt. But in first gear, can you see more volt lower gears means less gas at idle; which is now at a higher volt. And the throttle at idle or the TPS swings to zero. Now, this is for argument sake to watch the steps and not the technical volt values. Just watch how the analog runs 0-5v swing and watch the opposite 'ping' signal go high/low - on/off are the switching's? So, 5th is lean for 200 plus if you look at the abstract, you are leaner the more you gear lower. Richer if you gear up more is make sense? That is why the FSM says we will poop on your abstract, and use the generic absolute only we we are headed in backup is safe running like mimic the analog is have I moved to a retard setting?

Got that?

Kruz

Where did you learn shoebacca? lol I think the gym is getting to you, unless Hub is rubbing on you :)

Where did you learn shoebacca? lol I think the gym is getting to you, unless Hub is rubbing on you :)

LMAO!

Kruz

wow! This stuff is making my head hurt. Why would the fuel map be different from gear to gear? Doesn't RPM determine the fuel map? The engine doesn't care what the speedo reads or what gear you are in as to fuel/air mix. Only after the EPA/safety experts get done screwing things up. I mean before FI, how did my ZX-11 run so smooth in EVERY gear through the whole range? Now with FI it should be smoother, not a rush of power at a specific RPM unless you're screwing it up.

* Last updated by: alg8er on 9/10/2009 @ 9:29 PM *

Ying-yang in the generic says the code goes low volt is base code in the rich set. Rich says (6) + WOT = Most rich set for top end is cooling off at high extended runs as peak performance is not ragged edge all cams and porting the stroke too is this is like peak performance with a screen behind the stock air cleaner is how we peak key boo, dare is more air for you.

Kruz

Well Hub, I'm chasing that electric motor like pull my ZX-11 had. I miss that. I don't miss all the fuel problems, and gummed up carbs/jets, but I miss that smoothness. Same reason I didn't buy a 750 turbo when they came out. Surge of power on a wet curve is not good. I want linear , smooth, predictable POWER. I don't mind sacrificing a little HP to get it. I'm not racing, but I don't want a gold wing either.