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Thread: GSG Mototech Frame Sliders Install on ZX-14R

Created on: 11/06/12 12:11 PM

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mebgardner


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GSG Mototech Frame Sliders Install on ZX-14R
11/06/12 12:11 PM

I installed a couple items on my 14R over the weekend, a Stebel Compact horn, and a set of GSG Mototech frame sliders.

These instructions are for the GSG frame sliders. Search this site for Stebel Horn, or search for my posts.

I chose the GSG Moto equipment for a couple reasons:

No fairing mods required.
Interfaces to the cycle frame provide more contact than just a through-bolt.
Usually "get what you pay for" mentality on my part.

I could not find decent pictures of the GSG equipment. Not on their site, not on any user's site. I took a chance with them, hoping that the equipment would be as robust as I hoped.

I was not disappointed. The sliders are robust, and offer more "contact patch" to the cycle frame than the Chicom knock-offs.

They also offer replaceable end-cap plastic parts. That is, not just the sacrificial knob on the end of the post (which is also replaceable). For a zero MPH tip-over, the very end of the cap is a pop on/off piece of plastic that is replaced with no tools involved. Pop off the damaged cap, pop on a new one, it will take less than a minute each.

The equipment is also unique in that it provides more than one contact bolt point to the frame. Unfortunately, this is true on only one side. But, it's the same side as the side stand (think: if it happens to fall over...).

The other side is also very robust in contact, but there are fewer frame bolts available for GSG to work with. So, they chose a design that "wraps around" the frame at this point of mount. That is, the frame slider mount has a beveled inlet that fits over and around the mounting bolt frame patch.

The slider-arm extension to frame-slider-mount-point is a contact patch larger than the size of a silver dollar (see the pictures). The slider arm extension is also an intriguing design. It's an extruded piece of aluminium (I think), and "honeycombed". It's definitely well designed to absorb twisting and bending moments of inertia. It looks designed to "give" or crush, during sliding use.

As for a tip-over event, I think the idea was to spread the energy over as much surface area as possible, but still allow the parts to crush (instead of allowing the frame-to-engine block interface absorb all the energy through the connecting bolt). The part I'm not sure about during a tip-over is, the slider arm extension mounts at a small distance offset from the frame slider mounting bolt.

That is, there is a long bolt that attaches the slider arm extension to the frame slider mount. Then, there is another bolt that mounts the frame slider mount to the frame. These two bolts are offset by an inch or thereabouts (and this is what allows the sliders to mount without cutting any fairing bits).

So, in the event of a tip over (or a slide), the offset will apply a torquing, twisting moment "around" the frame mount point. The Chicom stuff does this, too, if sliding. But not during a tip-over. These GSG parts will apply this type of force during a tip-over. I dont know what's better... All I can say is, I'm glad I got these (but, I would have preferred a "Canyon Cage").

Because of supply line length, and the difficulty (and cost) of performing the cash transfer to Germany (took me an hour, and $40, to sort out all the details: They (GSG) required a direct bank-to-bank wire transfer. No credit card, no paypal, nada...). Because of this, I bought extras: Extra end caps, extra slider arms, extra sacrificial caps, you know... extras, just in case.)

So, to the installation...

The instructions from GSG are in German, and English. Mostly German. There's enough to intuit what needs to be done, and the correct torque values are shown.

It's easy, and you *could* do it without removing any of the fairing bits. I had the side fairings off, already... The hard part is cutting one of the rubber "boots" to expose one of the mounting bolts. The bolt is normally covered, out of sight behind the rubber boot. Getting in there to get the rubber boot off / cut / and back on again would be, ah, "difficult" without removing the side fairing.

So, get both of the side fairing off. Go for a ride, and get the engine to operating temperature.

ONE SIDE AT A TIME. The GSG parts are side-specific. Make sure you have the correct parts for that side. Get the engine hot to soften the red loctite on the engine-to-frame bolts.

Right side first. Remove the engine to frame bolt (an 8 mm hex allen head cap screw). It's red loctite'ed (all the engine-to-frame bolts are...). I used an 8mm allen with a 1/2" drive, on the end of a 1/2" drive, 2 ft. long bar wrench. Using that, the loosen and twist-off was easy. Grunt factor was very low. Now, replace the removed OEM bolt with the GSG part, use some fresh loctite (I used blue). Select the right side frame slider mount and bolt, position them such that the slider arm extension will stick out through the foreman grill bars, and torque on the frame slider mount. Use an 8mm allen hex drive, and use a torque wrench calibrated in newton/meters if ya got one. Apply torque to 40 NM. That's the easy one...

Now the left side. Remove the engine to frame bolt (an 8 mm hex allen head cap screw). It's red loctite'ed. Pull back the rubber boot and expose the 2nd bolt. Eyeball it, and determine how much boot to cut away. I cut away all of the bolt cover, but left a rubber piece that holds the boot in place, near it. Remove the 2nd bolt (10 mm, I think I remember). Replace the removed OEM bolts with the GSG parts, use some fresh loctite (I used blue). Select the left side frame slider mount and bolts, position them such that the slider arm extension will stick out through the foreman grill bars, and torque on the frame slider mount. That's the hard one...

Put the frame bits back on.

Using the side-specific long bolts, mount the arm extensions through the foreman grill bars and apply torque to 35 NM using the 8mm allen hex drive. Use Loctite.

Pop an end cap on each side. Done!



2012 Blue ZX-14R, Cox rad guard, Skene Design P3 Lighting, Knight Design 1" lowering pegs, Grip Puppies, BrakeAway, Cortech Sport tailbag, GSG MotoTech Frame sliders, Stebel Compact horn.

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RE: GSG Mototech Frame Sliders Install on ZX-14R
11/06/12 3:48 PM

Thanks ! Very helpful info. This is my next project.
Tom




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RE: GSG Mototech Frame Sliders Install on ZX-14R
11/07/12 9:32 AM

I got the same set for mine and am quite satisfied with the manufacture, install and the looks of these sliders.

Where did you mount your horn...I got the Banshee yesterday and it has split compressor from horn unit....due to lack of room put the horn between the forks in cockpit on the bottom plastic air dam blocking plate....compressor in right side fairing behind high beam bulb....blows both horns at 139db...better than stock and flashes the high beams when pushing the horn button..added safety.



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Black1



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RE: GSG Mototech Frame Sliders Install on ZX-14R
11/08/12 1:37 AM

+1 on GSG's great product I have the frame sliders an the axle sliders as well. It fits the bike nothing to big or to long plus no drilling or cutting!

How much did you guys pay?

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RE: GSG Mototech Frame Sliders Install on ZX-14R
11/08/12 8:08 AM

It's expensive equipment.

$125 for the base kit, another $50 for spare parts, $40 for the wire transfer, and a bunch of time to sort out the German on the website, and in the emails exchanged w/ GSG, and time to sort through the wire transfer process.

Whew, I'm exhausted just reading about it...

Sure wish I could have bought a Canyon Cage... woulda done that instead in a heartbeat.



2012 Blue ZX-14R, Cox rad guard, Skene Design P3 Lighting, Knight Design 1" lowering pegs, Grip Puppies, BrakeAway, Cortech Sport tailbag, GSG MotoTech Frame sliders, Stebel Compact horn.

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RE: GSG Mototech Frame Sliders Install on ZX-14R
11/09/12 2:08 AM

Twisted Throttle sells the GSG kit, or at least they used to.



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mebgardner


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RE: GSG Mototech Frame Sliders Install on ZX-14R
11/09/12 12:24 PM

Nope, not anymore.

TT is done as a distributor / retailer for GSG equipment. I got that straight from them (or, I'd a bought through them, of course...).

There is a shop in Tempe, AZ tho, I discovered late. i think they may be listed on the GSG website, if 'n ya can wade through the German and find the correct page (it's not a well sorted out website).



2012 Blue ZX-14R, Cox rad guard, Skene Design P3 Lighting, Knight Design 1" lowering pegs, Grip Puppies, BrakeAway, Cortech Sport tailbag, GSG MotoTech Frame sliders, Stebel Compact horn.

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RE: GSG Mototech Frame Sliders Install on ZX-14R
11/09/12 3:29 PM

Do you have Google Translate? Mine pops automatically on any non-English speaking site. May be s feature of Google Chrome.



'07 CPB Blue; ZGST windscreen with MRA X-screen adjustable spoiler, tube bar adaptor, PC III, ATRE,BMC air filter, modified stock seat with 2nd Look cover,Scorpion Flame Ti slip-ons, Galfer rotors front and rear, braided-stainless lines, C-F 10R front fender, C-F hugger, C-F inner fairing panels, painted foreman's fins with faux C-F inlay, polished rim lips wired for heated gear and accessories, Givi V35 side bags and E41 topcase with SW-Motech qd mounts

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Black1



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RE: GSG Mototech Frame Sliders Install on ZX-14R
11/11/12 8:05 PM

Yes the name of the company is called Wild Hair Accessories an they are in AZ.

Here's the info.

Wild Hair Accessories
Ph: 1-623-581-1994
E-mail: Info@WHAccessories.com
Website: WHAccessories.com

. For anyone wanting to know.


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Wolfman



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RE: GSG Mototech Frame Sliders Install on ZX-14R
04/02/13 7:23 PM

Yo Meb,
Mad love, I ordered these babies and I'm installing em, when I get em. They will be about 4 to 6 weeks before they ship here to Canada.
PEACE!
PS What a difference when compared to other systems, wholly, lets hope we never use em.







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Black1



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RE: GSG Mototech Frame Sliders Install on ZX-14R
04/07/13 11:15 PM

Wolfman,

Your going to love them! Post some pic's when your done.

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RE: GSG Mototech Frame Sliders Install on ZX-14R
01/26/14 3:43 PM

Will contact wild hair tomorrow!!
Sliders saved my fairings on my 10 twice!! Although I broke 2 mirrors it was way cheaper than fairings!!



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