This!!! Very eloquent, indeed....

* Last updated by: johnnyo on 10/19/2013 @ 6:34 PM *

You are 100 percent correct sir PaulAB. We, I, you, want the same thing, a place for 14 riders, under one mature, supportive AMA chartered network. The invitation to join, is a call for group comradery and love of the motorcycle. I will put your Ama number down and call the office with this on Monday. Once again thank you for your leadership and insight.

Anyone who shares this love and desire to form is welcome!

Thank you for your words,
CBLAST thank you for your words

Let's move forward together!
Wolfman

Fiction 14 if your real welcome aboard, if this name is fiction just made up to post a question about joining a club and gain interest in your club quit the bullshit. This forum is much bigger than whatever is on the 14 nation agenda.

I believe in brotherhood. All for one, and one for all. To me, 14 Nation is just this. I definetly encourage more members to step forward and take part in something that is great.

The 14Nation is about helping riders achieve a higher level of performance in whatever riding discipline they seek to master. The 14Nation is about pursuing excellence and cutting out the mediocrity. The 14Nation is about learn, think, and apply. We are a club of riders first. The 14Nation is about building a global source of valid real life contacts, of awesome stand up brothers that seek to provide help and gain knowledge. The 14Nation will seek to use what we are building to help the sport of motorcycling as a whole. We will help riders to wrench on their ride for the first time. We will help riders to adjust their own suspension at home. We help riders to bond with and achieve greater enjoyment of their machine. We will help riders achieve potential. On and off the bike. We welcome interest from new members. We are anxious to learn and share our knowledge. We discourage public bullshit conflict.

Thank you to my 14 Nation Brothers for all the hard work and dedication. I'm proud to be part of this organization.

I am proud too!

Being the person that I am I would not join or participate in a street gang and if I felt that was where I was headed I would be OUT. Nasty this is why I wanted you to call me because I felt like I could talk to you in a level headed manor to get this point across and let you get yoour point across to me so I could be a bridge of maturity and coolness to bring forth a understanding. I understood what you where saying about not being told what to do, your a grown man and I understand that, but being in an organization with a "leader" who is trying to have OUR best interest at heart you may have to look at the big picture in some instances to see what is down the road and what can come or not come out of it. This is a group and we all need to be able to speak on a certain level all the time and be able to take construtive critisism and build our selves and our club from it, after all you are never to old to learn and you can never limit yourself in growth and self improvement. Wolf is very passonate and I can see that and he trys hard to be all he can be in everything he puts himself into so we have to respect that and at the same time let him know if he's doing to much. Wolf you had alot on your plate at that time and stress of the situation may have led to some of what went on but every tale has two sides, Nasty is under a load being in the middle of harvest season, man's got a job to do with a time limit, I get that, but we cannot let that cloud our judgement, no I am not perfect and I am guilty of the samethings at times. Being on the outside looking in can give you a clearer picture sometimes and that lets us help one another out when we can't see sometimes. Look Im Sgt At Arms and I can be a good if you let me. We need to come together to get this shit right, respect our Pres as he is showing he is open for suggestions on everything, I get the phone calls so I know this. I will be here for any club member if you want, I will give my number and email address. PaulAB should attest to this as we hashed out a situation over email. If you gonna do then dammit lets do if not well then don't, but lets not throw stones at those that do. I like the communication on the back end of this Nasty and Wolf and thank you PaulAB for saying something, i was just waitng for a door to open and realizing this as I type as my position as Agt At Arms I should have intervened earlier, My bad and it won't happen again i apologize. Now Im getting off my soap box and carrying on.

Nasty we have more than that and more wanting in, lets slow down and let him have a chance to really get the "official club" off the ground, prospects are waiting patiently to patch in and we have a protocol to follow so lets give that a try first. I know your feeling differently because of the past situation and that wound is still a little tender, i get it, but patience is a virture and lets have some with a fresh organization and leadership trying to aclimate themselves into a position. You got my number if you wanna discuss it with me I'm wide open to listen as this is not my first rodeo with a bike club.

Like Bobby said upstairs. I am not perfect. I do not want to smear your name and I am willing to listen, consider my part in this and hear you. It's up to you. I will expect the good from you sir, I know it's there.

I've taken down any post that could be perceived as confrontive. Page 3 will reflect the new direction. If we all can agree, whatcha think?

Ah. The pastry cart arrived.

* Last updated by: nasty on 10/20/2013 @ 3:34 PM *

I went out today ridin my 14R around. Blastin ears and proudly reppin 14 Nation here in CT. One day in the very near future, Wolfman, I will ride with you... The founder of this great Club we are growing.

Nasty my man, I can clearly see and read that you are pissed off. I am tactfully saying maybe it is time to take a step back from this conflict you two are having. Step back and take a deep breath. The arrow slinging is making it difficult to enjoy the forum man. I have made mistakes in the past. We all have. We have to take steps in the right direction. Away from all the hate and discontent. I need to clearly say I have faith in what the 14Nation is and represents. This argument is clouding that. I believe in the nation and Wolfmans leadership. He is the founder of this thing. Period. I want this name calling and angry diatribe put to rest. We need to do as we all stated as handle this OFF forum in a discussion with the men involved if necessary at this point. Thanks all.

* Last updated by: Cblast on 10/20/2013 @ 6:10 PM *

Wow left this site and all it's bullshit a month ago and it's good to see it's still full of people acting like little kid's!!!!!! No bullshit since I left this forum it's been less stressful, instead of arguing with people over the computer. Glad I'm not missing anything, still the same 3-4 people posting stupid shit and nothing useful going on still. My advice nasty is while your eye's are open to these guy's just get off the forum, you'll thank me for it I promise. Well off to ride my newest toy. See ya boy's, and nice to see nothing changed here.

Yo, zxracer, for what is worth I really am sorry for being a dipshit asshole and all what I said dude.

* Last updated by: nasty on 10/23/2013 @ 10:53 AM *

No problem nasty, I was definitely being an asshole too so I deserved what I got. And took it like a man!!!

Sorry for the late reply, working a lot. For the people who asked I am out of Springfield, and interested in joining the 14 nation.

Nice! Should hook up n go for a ride in next couple weeks. Before it gets to be winter.

Sounds like a good, solid club with good intentions and a fair and reasonable outlook, from what I've read.

* Last updated by: ZX14MAN64 on 10/22/2013 @ 9:38 PM *

Hey Fiction I pmed you some info and zx14man64 yes thats were going for!! Ride Hard, Ride Safe, and most of all enjoy yourself!

Hells yes my brothers!

Nope I got it

Maybe now

Haha I got suckers