I was paying attention... Watch this... Pre 3.10 Set 3.10.
This is like saying, I removed the flies in the first gen, look at that torque. This is like saying, I shorted a wire, turn the code on, my limp is peppy at the bottom. This is like saying, I moved the cells, but have no clue where the binary is vs. the tables and that breakout of safe mode are those maps.
This is moving a frequency range, you pepped up the AFRange is how that is done. Here is the question. If the map made more HP, why did it not exceed the 3.10? So aren't you in a preset circle and if you breakout of that range, the torqued moved, but gained no HP after all is said and done. Do you agree?
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You have no clue about so much I can't even begin to educate you. I don't have the time for your ABC's. And no I don't agree with you or your presets. I think you are realizing your tuning theories are irrelevant. Your way is not the way. You lost that long ago. I can't help that. We are busy building something. Have a fantastic Halloween.
* Last updated by: Cblast on 10/31/2014 @ 5:16 PM *
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Well, that's the only way I can explain it. If it takes 12 more pages, can you explain how both bike runs are pretty much even up? That's what I don't understand? If you made progress, you'd have more HP, but you both agreed that's about as much as the both of you figured out on the dyno, and low and beholding my balls, adjusting my trousers kind of are we on the same page yet?
So the question to you is, did you make more HP than any other setup? A simple Yes or no would answer a lot. Silence even means more answers my question. Unless you can beat the other setup and Smoke even concurs. So where are we if that helped with the answer.
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Guys lets not put the cart before the horse here , We need to iron out the starting problem and get back to the track ..As I said before this is going to take a few trips to the track before we have a clear picture
I do not want to go back and forth being just a few runs at it. Right now as it stands, I'll stand by what 'The Hand' figured out and when it comes to numbers, ...[for now that is] the 3.10 is the picking point. Right now it sounds like you have a wicked 1/8th and 1/16 miler setup or more grunt for the street. Congrats on that part.
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@ hub. If you could figure out how to tune your own machine, you would be dangerous. Lol.
'You don't want to go back and forth with just a few runs at it' hahahaha! How the heck would you? You can't ride for shit and you aren't involved with any aspect of this tune or its testing. You have never ridden it. Your judgement of our flash or any testing of it is baseless. All you do is prattle on behind your keyboard. Go run the 1/4 mile yourself, at least once. Takes some pics. Prove something. Go learn how to use a dyno and come back with your big boy hat on. If I strapped your bike down for you, I'd bet you couldn't figure out how to even turn on the dyno. The dynomometer is a device for measuring power. You seem to have forgotten that. Not a single person involved here was seeking your congrats, commentary or false judgments. You decide nothing of relevance with regards to tuning. You are so lost, watching you chase your tail over and over is hilarious. It's almost like someone set you up to be the class clown...
* Last updated by: Cblast on 10/31/2014 @ 6:22 PM *
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This testing is magnificent. Saves me from having to put my bike on the strip which would be a joke anyway! I can't wait to see more results. I'm hoping the best for CBlast.
When I get my 2nd ECU (still looking for anyone with one to ssale..pm me if interestd) and get it Cblasted, next season I might be able to do some fairly objective testing myself compared to my stock ECU. Ugh so far away...sooooo farrrrrrrr!
Those of us that have been blasted know what we have and love our bike that much more. My bike also has NO starting issues. You barely touch the starter button and it kicks right off. Glade to see they figured out why. This has been interesting and there's more to follow. Having gone 208mph on basically a stock bike is truly amazing. Lee thank you from all of us that your willing to subject yourself to this level of scrutiny. We all hope (including HUB) you succeed in your quest to better 8.40
2004 zx12 1290cc 191std HP 495 lbs 2014 zx14r 195sae HP 520 lbs 2014 Loring AFB 14 runs over 200mph with a best of 208.1 in 1.5 miles and 204.5 in the mile. Now the Turbo 14R - best of 223.1 in the mile and 224.6 in the 1.5
Sorry to get slightly off the subject but you drag guys must have balls of titanium! We have a sort of non official club in Australia called "The 300 Club". Do 300km/h anywhere and you are in (honesty system). After 51 years on this earth, my 14 and I recently and finally joined. But it scared the living shit out of me and I doubt I'll ever do it again. But at 208mph/335km/h you guys must be fearless! And you all want to go faster? Unbelievable...
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Yannih, we have a data log run of me goin about 204 on Priscilla right otw to the shop. It was a beautiful morning and I needed the rpm ranges see... Lol
I love this machine more every time I rip on her. I pride myself on being a somewhat aggressive test pilot. I would love to go riding with any member here anytime! I will drop whatever I am doin and we can go burn some gas! Open invitation! 360-649-8047
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I'm going to weigh in on this as I have experienced the same QUALITY of power that Lee spoke about earlier. The low to mid section is MUCH stronger and cleaner than with the PCV/Guhl/Brock setup and that has been stated by twice now by guys who DO THIS every weekend. The ONLY reason I have been quiet about this entire subject is because I am currently still running the PCV as a fuel kill for my CO2 shifter. Once I am truly PIG free I feel like my experience and opinion will carry more weight with some of you who are hung up on PIG this and PIG that. Lee was spot on with his theory about the bike not really spending much time in that 5k-9k range where the CBLAST flash really shines. I honestly feel like he can adjust his riding a bit and push that portion of his pass harder to extract another smidge of ET. However.... My honest opinion is that unless you've ridden this flash yourself and really pushed this bike hard, your opinions on the matter are null and void. PERIOD. Shut down the hate and watch. You just might learn something. This flash won't fade and the men behind it won't stop until they are the standing at the top. Copy and paste that.
My honest opinion is that unless you've ridden this flash yourself and really pushed this bike hard, your opinions on the matter are null and void. PERIOD. Shut down the hate and watch. You just might learn something. This flash won't fade and the men behind it won't stop until they are the standing at the top. Copy and paste that.
2013 Super Fast SE ZX14R Forever Fearless
“There's a rebel lying deep in my soul. Anytime anybody tells me the trend is such and such, I go the opposite direction. I hate the idea of trends. I hate imitation; I have a reverence for individuality.” -Clint Eastwood
We have a sort of non official club in Australia called "The 300 Club". Do 300km/h anywhere and you are in (honesty system). After 51 years on this earth, my 14 and I recently and finally joined.
I recently joined. Speed doesn't scare me, I giggled like a school boy hearing the word testes for about 3 minutes afterwards. I had put my bike up for winter 2 weeks this last Saturday, but we had 3 unusually warm days (Saturday - Monday) so I got it back out. I was doing 150 on an interstate and came to a long stretch with no traffic and cracked it open and she shot right up there..just astonishing. The next day I hit over 180, and some various blast for lengths of time 130-150.
So I've now put it "back up" for winter. What I noticed the other day really scared me. The apparent amount of tire wear my 400 mile (over the 3 days) jaunt of aggressive riding caused! I don't know if it was running some of the higher speeds sustained or what, but I'll be damned if I'd swear at least 1/16th of my center tread was gone in those 400 miles. Was shooting for 8k out of them, now it's looking more like 6k (@4.4)!
And I repeat: So the question to you is, did you make "MORE HP" than any other setup? A simple Yes or no would answer a lot. Silence and skirting over the question does not. I had to edit that, because I thought for sure you'd see that point about the tunes. I don't get it? It's too simple to answer or was that way over hubbished you can't comprehend it? Unless you can beat the other setup and Smoke even concurs it's dead even, what did you prove in this result? So where are we if that helped with the answer for a second time.
@ hub. If you could figure out how to tune your own machine, you would be dangerous. Lol.
And where where you when the ABC's of a trick was to shut down the air screws and set the mains first, not how the book states it. That would put the smooth over your smooth is my guess... Mine sure needs it I checked and I bet you never set yours up yet.. I'm assuming now. So much for smooth.
'You don't want to go back and forth with just a few runs at it' hahahaha! How the heck would you? You can't ride for shit and you aren't involved with any aspect of this tune or its testing.
That's the beauty of it. I can only fall on the numbers, Cblast. Yours fell about even up so there is no advantage using a pig. But I see an accel mode and that's tuning to me. If you watched an AFR needle, would you describe to me what transpired? You question my tuneups and I question your tuning. Oh wait, the other guy has the dyno and he's the operator.
You have never ridden it. Your judgement of our flash or any testing of it is baseless.
Just a second here. I think I know my 12/13/14a's and can decipher a smooth from a lean is mean setting. So it's you/Smoke/Grn/other Cflashed customers all agree, some sort of creamy smooth robust grunt like a tre. Come on, you even came to the same conclusion you felt the tre, place smooth over it, add more of a zippy tre hit to it, I get it. But again, where is the beef if it's 3/10 a pound each?
All you do is prattle on behind your keyboard. Go run the 1/4 mile yourself, at least once. Takes some pics. Prove something. Go learn how to use a dyno and come back with your big boy hat on.
Here is one run to check my accel numbers and you tell me if that is a decent accel or not? You're the tuner on the dyno, so I want you to tell me if it needs more/less? Shit, I can tell from here. And why is there head shake and short shifting? Your ass can't feel a wheelie on a dyno so do you really think you can ride the runs I pull or are you sitting still and not feeling jack shit under you, butt watching a line and moving it with a mouse/shortcut keys.
If I strapped your bike down for you, I'd bet you couldn't figure out how to even turn on the dyno.
Wanna bet? I bet you don't even know how to clean the filter. I bet you don't even adjust the ____ Fill in the blank or even look to see if it's within range for the day.
The dynomometer is a device for measuring power.
And the 1320 is just sit up and run thru the traps = Be consistent and the results will come.
You seem to have forgotten that. Not a single person involved here was seeking your congrats, commentary or false judgments.
I have 3.10 and a 3.10 that says different. What is with you, C? Are you blind? And how about I congrats Brock and Don for let me get this straight in my comments, as I make a judgement call. I believe someone said to keep the racer's with the numbers game? I'll see if 'The Hand' commented on the numbers that it's 3 to 1 on the Brock/Don's favor?
1. You pulled out the grunt is score 1 for your effort or seek there of or not. 2. I think Brock gave the Don on the mid somewhere? So that sort of edged you out you working on the grunt so much is 1 for the boys mid way or whatever Smoke was seeking for, yours kind of dropped off. 3. And at the 3.10 mark it was more you made NO HP so you more lost that round, yes or no? Does that sort of get that yes or no out of you yet? So that's another point for team Brock/Don. 4. The Shane limit and that time was limited to only that flash and did he run a Brock map? So that's 3 points for the pig/flash team over the Cap10's flash alone, I gotta say them there are my unofficial score board no one was seeking for, nor my alleged [false] comments and if those judgements are false, where is that hat?
You decide nothing of relevance with regards to tuning. You are so lost, watching you chase your tail over and over is hilarious. It's almost like someone set you up to be the class clown...
I want to be so wrong in this, but that 3.10 is just eating at me for some reason, C, it makes no sense?
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Lee was clear in his assessment, more data to follow, but I am confident the C flash will continue to stand on top. For us street hooligans we know what we got. Track astronauts we know what we got! Hubs you have not rode this one (Cflash), I think it's time sir, "you need to sit this one out."
Let the men who run this flash and the men who are testing it have an equal say. Let's put the "chirp, chirp, chirp" on hold.
Out of curiosity and, no disrespect intended, how many victory cups did you earn in your 'ole track racing days?
I've always said, I'm an average man on an extraordinary bike, perhaps it's time for you, sir, to admit this too!
W
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I spend to much time on Facebook, I tried to "like" that comment wolf.
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It's only been one night of testing. 5 passes. 5 shakedown passes. Proves nothing either way. Dudes need to chill out for a minute.
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2013 Super Fast SE ZX14R Forever Fearless
“There's a rebel lying deep in my soul. Anytime anybody tells me the trend is such and such, I go the opposite direction. I hate the idea of trends. I hate imitation; I have a reverence for individuality.” -Clint Eastwood
For the record, I'm not mad at anyone on this site. I'd drink a beer with all of you.
2013 ZX-14R SE 2 Wheel dyno works flash custom machined bar risers by yours truly Muzzys black stainless slips V1 custom mounted Zero Gravity DB screen Yoshimura fender eliminator Black powder coated wheels
Im with you Nasty... Ive got nothing but mad respect for everyone here. I love being part of a forum that everyone is so passionate but maybe its time to agree to disagree or keep it a little more respectful. LOL
2014 ZX14R, Scotts Steering Damper, Yoshi Sliders, Custom fender eliminator, Full Akrapovic 4:2:1, PAIR block off, PC5, Ivans Flash.
I'm cool and would be down for a beer with any cat on here. Feeling good about the first few passes. As stated I look forward to continued discussion. Let's remember c posted charts and videos on page one.
I respect all 14 owners and I don't have any vendettas with anyone.
Now that, that's sorted I would like cats testing and men riding the flash to post insights. I'd like folks who do not run the flash remember that their insight arrived from perspective taking and from reading this page and not riding. Though readers and riders of the flash both have value, one group is doing it and another is "discussing it." Just a thought. I love to make love to many red headed women, but can only discuss the ones I've had the pleasure to share intimately. Ones that I didn't make love to exist as reflective conversation and not a reality. Who knows maybe I'm crazy! There's theory and there's reality. Feel the theorists on here have had many passes.
Don't feel I've stepped over anyone to communicate this.
Mad respect w
If some of my posts have resorted to immature fool hardy behaviour I will keep things serious.
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