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Created on: 10/12/14 03:45 PM
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Wolfman
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Wolfman
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Fazer
Location: Teranna
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Romans
Location: Toronto,ON
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Posts: 5926
RE: Cblasted = Proven Results
11/03/14 12:48 PM
Hey Romes...will the turbo kit work with the flash?
Yes Grn I have a Turbo Flash Doing Amazing Things. If you have a Turbo 14 you most definitely want this.
In short Allows me to run more Boost than I should. Will it work with what you have in your bike now equals No. Big subject. If you guys want to know more I will explain some where else. I don't want to muddy up this thread any more than it is.
And just how difficult is it to install a turbo like you have?
Grn if you can strip bike down to Motor(and I know you can) you can do it. Ask if you get stuck, I will always help anyone trying. If you weren't 20 hours away I would do it for you. Not to worry though, Support is a phone call away.
Any engine parts need to be beefed up?
If you stay low Boost 260/280 at the rear wheel, No. But,,,, Boost Greed Claims 90 % of us. We fall victim to that bag of springs that comes with the waste gate. WE All say they won't touch those springs but we do and BOOOOOM ,,,,,
Lol crack for gear heads bets you will reach in the bag and take one out. 16 horse per pound, springs come in 2 lb jumps. Five minutes work and your up at least 30 hp. The temptation is Great. Spring Heaven Awaits.
But I don't want a money pit if ya know what I mean.
Grn, not sure what to say here. The day we did our first mod to these bikes they became a Money pits. The individual must decide if he or she is in with both feet or just testing the water.
Your BST purchase told me your ready. No matter how cool those wheels are they don't make bike scary fast. Boost Does
So Why Not Do Both ?
5250 gets you the kit for 260 RWHP. If you want 280hp I will Flash your ECU For Free. Great big Balls will grow daily. Don't kid your self either, 260 is one big #. The amount of torque Early is sweet when you consider how much power you have of it 5500RPM. Also Grn, At your elevation Boost is what she needs,,,
Again, Money pit,,, Equals don't touch it after 300 hp. Beast reach in the bag was over 60hp jump. That 327 hp lasted one Race. He said he was catching me all though I don't believe him. Boom got in the way. All in good fun of course but Not cheap once on this path.
In short Don't Do It !
If you do, Most Fun You Will Ever Have On Two Wheels, Promise
I hope this helps cheers.
darryle
Location: ontario
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Romans
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Wolfman
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RE: Cblasted = Proven Results
11/03/14 1:00 PM
For folks who don't know those wheels are courtesy Rick Romans. Rick had a set of 14r stockers and kindly traded my silver stockers for em. Thank you Romes - greatly appreciated.
I am very pleased with the murdered out look of the 14r. Sadly I had to replace my carbon fibre fender too, due to the collision. She is home in time for winter sleep. Lol.
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darryle
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RE: Cblasted = Proven Results
11/03/14 1:02 PM
Rick I believe it's possible.At Hindle exhaust they pulled 205 Sae on mine they had 60 runs to tune it.Maybe the rims helped.
Wolfman
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nasty
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RE: Cblasted = Proven Results
11/03/14 2:10 PM
....Great big Balls will grow daily....
Smokinzx14
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Posts: 239
RE: Cblasted = Proven Results
11/03/14 2:14 PM
Wolfman I'm on the hunt for a another ECU with the right part number for my bike , as you might have read we used a different part numbered ECU to flash with the Cblast flash ..That ECU had problems Before the flash but we tried to use it anyway ..To make things as fare as we can I want to get a clean used ECU with the right part number and install Cblasts flash ..Then we will hit the track again and see what happens ..
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nasty
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RE: Cblasted = Proven Results
11/03/14 2:59 PM
If it will speed up the process, I may be willing to temporarily part with my ecu for the month. My riding season is over anyway. It's already Cblasted and ready to roll.
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Wolfman
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Smokinzx14
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RE: Cblasted = Proven Results
11/03/14 3:16 PM
Nasty , thank you Sir for the offer , But I want to keep an extra ECU for testing ..So if anyone has a 21175-0714 ECU for sale let me know .. Thanks ...
This week( Thursday night) we are going to be back in the upper 80s with lots of humidity , so this week testing will be a no go anyway .. Next trip I want to hit some of that nice cool dry air . :) That 8.42 has to go down and I need good air to do it ...
Wolfman
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Nastynotch
Location: Lumberton, TX
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RE: Cblasted = Proven Results
11/03/14 4:28 PM
Yea these things are picky with ecu's. I put my cblasted ecu with an 839 part num in my buddies 14 that had an 838 in it, and it threw a CEL. Intresting enough his stock ecu will work in my bike with no light. Weird.
Hub
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RE: Cblasted = Proven Results
11/03/14 4:51 PM
Hand,
1. Does the bike start and idle? Yes
2. Is the dash clean of codes? Yes
3. Did the bike run like everyone says it does? Yes
4. Did the bike show better numbers on the bottom than the other? Yes
5. Did both ECU's break even at the top? Yes
6. Fuckit... Run it!
maverick1441
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Smokinzx14
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Posts: 239
RE: Cblasted = Proven Results
11/03/14 5:10 PM
Hub I would run it but it's killing my starter and battery getting it started .Plus it cold starts bad also as well as idles to low.
Who needs that problem ?
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Smokinzx14
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RE: Cblasted = Proven Results
11/03/14 5:15 PM
Mav the part number shows it to be USA/Canada ECU .. But this is the ECU that popped the 3A code that is purge valve , then it popped a code 39 ... ECU com problem ... I just don't want to use a ECU for testing that may have a big problem unknown to us ..
Hub
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Smokinzx14
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RE: Cblasted = Proven Results
11/03/14 5:27 PM
Hub Cblast said he tested in his bike before he sent it back to me and it was fine ..My ECU that came with the bike is NOT going to be touched by anyone and that includes me ... I'm Not taking a chance messing up or damage or loss sending 3000 miles for a flash .. That is why I want a stock ECU with the right part number ..I have Cblast Bin file down loaded and saved to file with my woolich stuff ...All I need is a clean ECU with the right part number and I can flash it with Cblast flash and we should be fine ..That will save Cblast work and I will not have the possibility of loss or damage making a 6000 mile round trip ..
I also fashed it back to the stock Bin file before I sent it to cblast .. I did want to have him do any extra work .
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maverick1441
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Hub
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RE: Cblasted = Proven Results
11/03/14 6:01 PM
Understood. I was going to say I have the wooly and could OE a burn for you, but I see you have your own. Plus, mine is a cali. So did you first save the OE you sent Cblast? And now did C first save your download? Why not have C upload that ECU file to Justin's website, you download it, burn it back to the OE and start over again. If neither of you saved the original maps... Bad boys-bad boys, watt chew gonna do when it won't start for you, bad boys-bad boys.
Second round. Mod C's map on the first two rows and step them down in the leaner setting for starting. That's if it's too rich to start, or vice-verse. The way to tell is if the pipe is cold at the header, it's no firing. If it gets hot, it's ignition, right? Fires but too late. It has to either not fire (too lean and no fire) or it fires off too much (chugs and tries to start) and have you opened the throttle to some idiosyncrasy or finding the sweet spot on start up?
And I'm talking about pulling a hair off and slip it under the throttle plate it's that kind of opening with all those 10ths of numbers about to linear up into another whole number and the 10ths start over again. So find the whole number or the 10ths opening off the number you are closed throttle at.
And no way do you open and close that throttle. If you crank and slowly open, there is going to be that 10th [of a sweet spot] needed and boom it starts. My thought is to get away from the lower cells on start up and force a demand with more vac.
Hub
Joined: 02/05/09
Posts: 13746
RE: Cblasted = Proven Results
11/03/14 6:06 PM
Is it possible to flash a Cali Rom into a non-cali ECU? Or vice versa?
No orange LED is showing, Mav. I began to write it out and thought about it as I walked it out. Bike still starts, so this made me think to look at the idle rows of the ign map. Where are those?
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