The idle rows in the ignition map are stock. Stop grasping at straws. We have the situation understood. And handled. And no he shouldn't 'run it'. Common sense. Sort the problem. Which we have.

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The idle rows in the ignition map are stock.

How would I know that? A valid place to look, would you agree?

Stop grasping at straws.

Okay, lets begin this all over again. 'Holeee shit start, Batman, use still in trouble?' I thought this was handled, but apparently not. Did not Batman say he has a battery that is not happy and is looking for another ECU to work this out with?

We have the situation understood. And handled. And no he shouldn't 'run it'. Common sense. Sort the problem. Which we have.

Oh boy! Cblast, I need to get that hat and shove it down my trousers. Someone is going to take a bite out of it. Listen carefully...

1. 'We have the situation understood.' Okay, let me understand this. You and I both know there is something wrong and you understand the situation. I said, I said, YOU understand the situation.

2. 'And handled.' I want to be the ass in this, so I am going to 'assume' you are going to buy a new ECU. So, that's shipping & 'handling' is that correct?

3. 'And no he shouldn't run it? I don't know how you flowed that, but you have to prove to me that is not the same setup you get it to start as well as the other flash, I'll see the same numbers. T-Tables, my man, it's all about the limp ride.

4. Common sense sort of problem? See, I don't know if it was common to sense something would change if it starts, no codes, 3.10'up or it's a common problem and you sorted it out? Listen carefully again...

5. 'Which we have' watt? Is not Smoke not running that ECU or did you sort it out and it was hindsight it was that much of the sense it was so common to find what? So you found what? This is your chance, Cblast. Did you see how I detailed how you can detect a cold pipe it was that kind of common sense to know if it's spark or fuel: if compression is out of the way? The common sense bleeds right there.

So this is your chance to explain it as simple and as hindsight as it is: once you know it's not the other and pinpointed who of the 2 it was at that pipe, right? Your explanation should just it was that simple, why didn't I think of that?

And C, there are only 3 ways to answer:

1. It was so simple and here it is in detail we have that ECU ready to go.
2. Silence.
3. He skirts the question by jumping over the post, sends in a diatribe of 'I don't know hwat I'm talking about' and you know the drill, C...LOL

You're up, Mr. Blasted those cells to smithereens.

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Hubsy you need a new Hobbie. I hear handy craft is fun. Perhaps dynamic plastic model building. Hey I know make some more videos?

How are you Hubsy. Did u take the red or blue pill tonight?

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No cells were blasted, even Smokin has said clearly it wasn't the flash. You have no understanding of what and how a flash is built if you think it's causing a starting problem. But you have already exampled that. So no surprise. Smokin has examined every aspect of the flash and he clearly can see and understand the flash didn't cause the problem. The Ecu was a problem unit before I ever recieved it. Period. We have the situation, meaning myself and Smokin, handled and understood. I can't help that you are confused. No one answers to you hub. The only person here completely lost is you. You haven't ridden it. You will not ride it. You aren't a concern in any way.

* Last updated by: Cblast on 11/3/2014 @ 7:59 PM *

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Wolfy baby, someone is out a 1000 dollar ECU.

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Hubsy how is the phallic moto porn business going. Do you have any more youtube vids? I miss some of your cinematography.

The ecu point is like pulp "fiction" u need only a long syringe and target fixation.

I have a great Avro Arrow model set to send you if interested?

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Again a complete lack of knowledge of the situation and verbal diarrhea. The Ecu in question was purchased off of a salvage sale. Wasn't near a g. And was fault coding before I ever touched it. Period. Runnin your suck out of turn about stuff you know nothing about. SOP for hub.

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Well brother, had a full day doing an in home bike build for a distinguished drag racer in my area! Wanna welcome JimmyZ to the Cblasted family. We did a full compliment of mods on his machine. The list is long:
Cblast Flash with data logging follow up track support package.
8" stretch
Brocks lowering links and straps
Annitori QL2
MPS Launch Control box
Vortex rearsets (set to GP shift, all fitted perfect)
Muzzy M10 full system
Custom 2wheeldynoworks pair block off plates.
Shift light
Shinkos
Etc, etc., one of the sexiest builds I have done so far! Awesome Jimmy, real pleasure getting to work in your machine in your space and see your trophy wall! Been drag racing 42 years! That is truly awesome! I really look forward to drag racing this coming year right beside you sir!

* Last updated by: Cblast on 11/3/2014 @ 8:26 PM *

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I still strongly disagree with you for going with a quickshifter over an airshifter......but what the fuck do I know.....I've never ran either or so my opinion is invalid.....

* Last updated by: nasty on 11/3/2014 @ 9:03 PM *

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3. Sends in the diatribe...

The Ecu was a problem unit before I ever recieved it. Period.

Listen very carefully... Did you install the ECU in your bike and light it up, find any codes? Did Smoke not try the ECU on his bike to see if was a faulty unit before sent to you? What exactly was the symptom if you know these ECU's so much, I'm just trying to get a logical answer out of this. This sure looks like a C kind of answer, Cblast.

We have the situation, meaning myself and Smokin, handled and understood.

This just does not answer jack shit. Handled and understood asks the question if you are sure you understand? Then if you do, it's real easy to explain. And it sure is not looking like you know your stuff. Handled how? Understood how? Those pages would end if you knew what you were talking about so this could be settled a long time ago. Are we on the same page yet?

I can't help that you are confused. No one answers to you hub.

I am not confused. I do not have the ECU in hand to know how that thing starts. Once it runs it would take me 200ft or less to tell if you had a faulty 'untouched' ECU. Remember that 3,200rpm spit and no code? So that meant no code, just a glitch that a new ECU cleared up, thank you ninja for that discarded, annoying glitch. So to have that faulty no code 'was bad before I received it,' our glitch to the ECU was a long or hard starting issue, throw it on ebay and that is money lost against a new one.

Watch this. I am asking both of you, did you start that OE before shipping and it lit right off, no codes? Did you flash ECU, start your bike, the bike lit right off, no codes? Then it was not the ECU in question. Only thing that looks like a bad ECU was this hard starting no codes. How close am I?

The only person here completely lost is you. You haven't ridden it. You will not ride it. You aren't a concern in any way

I'm rubbing that hat so much it's sticking my pubics together. I think its ready. Watch this. The FI codes have backups, can self diagnose itself, and has no backup if something goes wrong inside itself says code 39. Watch this. I don't think Smoke would buy or acquire an ECU, not plug it in before shipping it. So I am going to assume that was checked, no codes and did fire right up... Until you flashed it... Only Smoke can answer that question: did he try the ECU before you flashed it? Watch this. Smoke said, you started the bike right up before you sent it out. That means you did not wear down the battery, saw no code 39 and shipped it out.

Watch DIS:

1. I can explain in detail.
2. Silence.
3. You don't have a clue why you are so confused and can't explain something that just does not look, nor sound right... And now look at me as a potential customer and you can't explain why you sent a coded ECU to Smoke, said nothing about it, or you did test and it was fine and starts like your other customer flashes.

I can't believe you are not killing ECU's like the one in question. Because this is sooooo foggy as it continues on and on to the next page... WATTime is it?

Wolfy, I found a new hobby! Get to the bottom of Dis!

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And was fault coding before I ever touched it. Period.

Why didn't you call Smoke and give him the heads up?

Hello, Lee? Did you know this thing codes? Shit stain, it didn't code or start hard when I sent it. Hold on, I have to pick C and send a post. OK, back. So I'm going to flash it anyway, and see if it starts on mine. I'll call you right Hello, Lee? Yeah no prob, here it comes.

Am I suppose to believe this is how it went down? You hid shit from your own rider? What kind of debrief are we having here? LOL

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Thats funny bub, it was Smokin mentioned it was coding before he ever shipped it to me. I don't care what you believe or think. You have been wrong point after point and it's making you look exactly like a chicken with its head cut off. Just spurting around the yard. Lol.

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So, wasn't that simple? Smoke bought a faulty ECU. How am I suppose to know that? And when you flashed that and tested it, did it hard start for you and spit a 39?

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Let me get this right. Hello Lee, yeah I'm spitting a code here and it starts hard. Nil said to run it cause we started it right up and no codes. Sound confusing?

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You sure have a difficult time getting stuff straight in your head. When I test fired her in Priscilla she started up and ran with zero codes. Idled fine, all systems go. Prior to flashing, it was erased and reset back to completely stock. Then intitialized and written. File locations were all correct. We both new the codes or a problem coming back was a possibility, as it had faulted before. We then spoke on the phone and clarified our direction. You weren't kept in the loop, because you aren't in the loop. Lol. I'm done answering your questions. Try entertain yourself with something productive.

* Last updated by: Cblast on 11/3/2014 @ 10:08 PM *

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The ECU I sent Cblast had tossed a 3A code before I sent it to him ..I put a stock Bin file in it for the part number on the ECU and check the box to remove the 3A code .. Before I sent it I put it on my bike and checked it , it started fine , No codes and all seemed good .. When I got it back I installed it and it started fine that day ..The next day I started it didn't start well cold and it popped a code 39..I check all the connections and all seemed fine .. The code 39 went away and never came back .. Then I went to the track , all seemed ok but the cold start and hot start problems .. The starting problem got worse the more runs I made on that ECU .. I replaced the ECU with my ECU after 3 runs and the starting problems went away ..

* Last updated by: Smokinzx14 on 11/3/2014 @ 10:15 PM *

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Flash: I start and run, can I get a calc?
T-Tables: Oh no, not you again!

Flash: I can't seem to get up in the morning.
T-Tables: A few flips and flops I can wake you up.

Flash: I know. Once I'm running I'm away from that column, right?
T-Tables: That is correct, you just have a few cells of a glitch and off you go.

Flash: I feel better. No codes.
T-Tables: That's all it was, a few cells and we took care of the rest.

Flash: You mean I ran like stink, didn't break up and matched the rubber band stretch like the other one out of the bag?
T-Tables: Apparently. Once you start and no codes, kiss those cells goodbye so says the crank speed.

Flash: Shit, I'm spinning my wheels with the same setup so I am back to square one even if it lit right off.
T-Tables: Turtle Tables thinks so. Want the debrief?

Flash: I already know. Run the goofy flash and update the flash that works.
T-Tables: That's the ticket. Pig it and stick it up their ass with a blast of accel.

Flash: You're all even I do nothing right?
T-Tables: I'll table the same shit out, give or take the thermometer in the service door and the atmo push of that day/night.

Flash: Well, the preset is in on that flash alone. Time to work the DonnyboyBrockit setup.
T-Tables: Table for table do your thing.

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When I test fired her in Priscilla she started up and ran with zero codes. Idled fine, all systems go. Prior to flashing, it was erased and reset back to completely stock.

First rule of thumb is save your work? Why would you not save that OE first is a novice move. Where is your archive of all those stockers you flashed? You burned right over them, not pulled any from different numbered ECU's?

File locations were all correct.

Hey, if it wrote and said successful, it's correct. The locations are a given, hello?

We both new the codes or a problem coming back was a possibility, as it had faulted before.

You mean a phantom fault? I thought you knew this shit?

You weren't kept in the loop, because you aren't in the loop. Lol. I'm done answering your questions. Try entertain yourself with something productive.

Where are your tuners in all this? They couldn't figure out a 39 or a 3A? phaaa phaaaa phantom ping? and look it runs.

The ECU I sent Cblast had tossed a 3A code before I sent it to him ..I put a stock Bin file in it for the part number on the ECU and check the box to remove the 3A code .. Before I sent it I put it on my bike and checked it , it started fine , No codes and all seemed good

Watch this. I sent it to C and he wiped whatever I did so it is null and void. 3a has no backup. Who cares, it's not about to reset something so there is a backup for safety. The page section is blank either way it came back. And did it pop a code? No.

I check all the connections and all seemed fine

Donny said things were fine. I said not to chase C's [alleged] fuckup. It's too simple to save a map, call it back up and burn it. I know the wooly process or close enough to be dangerous ass they say.

The code 39 went away and never came back

That's the beauty of the self checker bing-bang phantom hit or ping. Wipe the RAM and all that is left is the ROM to start all over again... If it was burned correctly. I'm watching some gun work here. I think Smoke you might invest in one for this whack attack flashit.

Another pit call if you don't mind. Do you have a crew? I'd have a gun right up to the line or right after a water run. Hit the gun at each pipe and he aborts the run or waves you on. And that's against the Donny setup temp numbers, because Brock's does not heat up like a Cflash, correct?

The starting problem got worse the more runs I made on that ECU .. I replaced the ECU with my ECU after 3 runs and the starting problems went away

Fuck I'd check the plugs and take a leakdown. C has that map all fucked up. For that to heat up after so few of runs and Brock cools it off? Does that make any sense to you?

Cblast, who the fuck is tuning that shit? Cook the head gasket why don't you. Man, that is some fucked up mapping. Sounds like it's proving to heat up somehow. What in the fuck did you do, C? Don't tell me. I don't wanna be in that loop.

Are you sure you know how to turn the fans on in the dyno but out on the track it heats up?

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All I can say about using a different # ECU is don't. Luckily Romans is an amazingly generous man, and even though it wasn't his fault, (I'll let him throw the blame if he wants) he replaced my ECU with the correct #. Do not hesitate to get a Romans flash! He is the man!

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Hey C did you do any clutch work to that bike you worked on? Or is doing a clutch mod and stiffer springs still a joke in your book????

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