Hey, Cblast, can I send my ecu out to have nitrous map made? Without having to tune it on my bike? You once told me you could do this easy with zero problems and no piggies and no need to take the bike to a dyno.

* Last updated by: nasty on 11/4/2014 @ 2:04 PM *

Who said that?... That is the most retarded thing I have ever heard in my life. A tune that works for EVERY bike?

* Last updated by: Fazer on 11/4/2014 @ 1:40 PM *

Thank you Romes for the voice of reason. So how does a 14r owner like me that doesn't have this computer ECU stuff figured out know our ECU isn't going to get screwed up when we send it out?

Great question. Facts are simply this. Bike has been around awhile now. Most of the Ecu #'s we have already seen and Justin From Woolich has been constantly updating. Still The worry lies Strictly on who ever is doing the Flash. If you code it, You own it no better way to put it. That being said when your choice for a flash is asking you for money don't begrudge he deserves it. He Owns All The Risk.

Info, the older Gen one bike guys are starting to come forward in large #'s. (IMO they need it the most). More and more of their ECU #'s are showing up. Issue here is, there is more than one version of the of the "Exact Same ECU #". Wow, Now there something that hurts the Noodle. Example there is two 21175-0084 Two 21175-0089 Two 21175-0090 And Two 21175-0101 At first we did not know this. This # was blind to us. Now you will see a sub # after the same ECU #. It's not on your ECU (Go slow if you doing this). Ask me how I found out, yep you guessed it, I own it. Alger8 can attest to that one.

Not to worry Justin from Woolich now knows this and has lists them as they show up.

The guys like me who First got into this took all the Risk. We had pin issues plug issues, most all is solved. I see it both ways. Does anyone realy believe Woolich would go out and buy every single ECU. If the answer is no then you must realise issue may arise when differences are in the ECU.

Thank you Romes, you are a voice of reason. I have tried hard to open up and share and show what we are doin. Thanks again for sound logic sir

C no matter how this turns out sure looks like a flashed ECU can hang with PCV. You were the First I know that combined Cylinders. You Sir Are The Pioneer Here. No one Else does it. That must be known. If this is the golden goose for more speed we will "All" be adapting to Your ways, as the Goal is "More Power Captain" For All.

Fueling differences, Kawi tuned each cylinder with it's own fuel map. Now I don't combine them as into one because Kawi did not do it.

That is by no means is a good reason. Truth is no one can tells us why the fueling is over 4% different in all four cylinders. Cooling is the Answer that is most often given but show me the science. I can't find it. Believe me I looked. So if this way has more torque and hp the mile per hour will be going up ET will be going down. This credit is All C/Nells.

So On with the show. Better Air on it's way.

I'm going to say this AGAIN,

I have had C's flash for some time now, NO CODES, NO HARD STARTING, NO HEAT ISSUES,
in fact, I could tell the minute I started it, that it was running smoother,

For me, C's flash was better than Guhls , not trying to disrespect ANYONE, because there are
many on these boards and in the industry with MUCH more knowledge than me,

BUT I know C's passion, and I KNOW the hours he has put into this flash, I know he
has stayed up nights trying to see if there is something more he can do or find,

How do I know ? I was up with him talking about it, MANY TIMES !!!

Maybe if people would listen to him, they might be able to learn something, as he has
seeked out opinions from GREAT tuners as Mike Velasco, and Nels, and HE has influenced
them also, I'm not going to try and fight with anyone, If we put our resources together,
maybe we could do some really positive things, just my HUMBLE opinion ...

BE SAFE BROTHERS !!!!

* Last updated by: carabuser on 11/4/2014 @ 1:48 PM *

Thanks CarAbuser!, I always look forward to our talks, we have sorted through so much stuff together that bouncing stuff off of you has become part of the process!

If I may, this is a forum for the exchange of ideas and information on and for the improvement, maintenance and love of one of the best machines on the face of the planet. Fazer and Hub if you want to talk shit please seek a different venue there are plenty of sights where people are encouraged to spew oral defication but sirs this is not it.

* Last updated by: FrankTheTank on 11/4/2014 @ 2:18 PM *

Hey Cblast why do you keep skipping past questions?

know he has stayed up nights trying to see if there is something more he can do or find,

There is something more. Promise.

Soon as the dust settles I will give it to C/Nells. He can give it to all of you. You all can street test at will.

Cara, I'm no one special on anyone's list, nor is that ego stuff important to me. I won't ever B name dropping, that's for sure, Not my way. You guys here are the testing public. Your opinions are all that matters.

If we put our resources together, maybe we could do some really positive things, just my HUMBLE opinion

This was always my opinion, live by it, Not just here in life period. Ten heads are better than one.

Hey tank, Cblast is a big boy. He can take the jabs of 12 y/o girls cant he? He seems to be taking it well. He just ignores questions and redirects. Nice to see someone has come to his aid though.

As for social media sites... This is a 14 forum... Did you trade in the tank yet and get a 14? Isnt there some tank forum you should be trolling?

* Last updated by: Fazer on 11/4/2014 @ 2:25 PM *

Wasn't skipping your question Nasty. Just hadn't answers it. Lol. Once we have developed our nos setup, I will keep you informed of how the process will go. We have not done that as of yet, been busy catching up the fall tuning clients here in PacNor. Thank you for your interest.

And i was expecting... "I cant comment on that... Please contact our help line and they will assist you."

Hey Cblast now is this gonna be a full nitrous kit? Premetered, plug and play with a whizz bang and pop we go? No fucking around tuning and straight to the fun stuff?

* Last updated by: nasty on 11/4/2014 @ 2:41 PM *

Hey Tank,

Me personally? I havent done much to my bike myself.... Aside from checking tire pressure and tightening my chain...

* Last updated by: Fazer on 11/4/2014 @ 2:49 PM *

Not deleted just updated to keep myself from the childish banter you are involved in.

If you cant take the heat get out of the oven!

Im waiting it out until it turns to broil.

* Last updated by: Fazer on 11/4/2014 @ 3:15 PM *

Well sir that's the point I do not put my self in a box with my ignorant statements and a supercilious attitude I am a grounded man who knows what I know and am willing to learn new things. I am not the man in the oven I'm the one turning the nobs.

* Last updated by: FrankTheTank on 11/4/2014 @ 3:26 PM *

Hey fazer why do all these old geezers have to be so crotchety all the time?

* Last updated by: nasty on 11/4/2014 @ 3:40 PM *

I dunno Nasty. They get so defensive for some reason.

Must be what happens when you get old. Ill know eventually... Maybe when i turn 13 i'll understand.

I know when my walker's brake line dislodges from the grab rail, it really messes with my head. Can u get back to me next week after my chiro realigns my back and my prostate shrinks so I can pass urine?

Thanks Boyz,

"do all these old geezers "...LOL.Geezer this youngsterLOL

Damn that's beautiful...
The bike! Not Mike.
Rofl.

Hate to disagree with two awesome cats. Bike looks like shist. And fits few. Not for me.
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Well, this thread is dead without hub.