Most people thought the 14 looked fugly also;)

"bike will fit few"...yes...correcto!

"Well, this thread is dead without hub"...maybe;).

* Last updated by: Grn14 on 11/5/2014 @ 6:41 AM *

On a positive note, how is your machine running Grn? Whatcha feelin so far?

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Howdy C....the stuff I mentioned before...the factory 'blip' or whatever it was...gone.She's killer smooth...in all rpms and gears.I definitely feel a smoother acceleration(not to be interpreted as..."it wasn't smooth before";) ).The exhaust note is quite different.(now).About the easiest way to describe it...it sounds like a GP bike now...with a deep smooth growl that wasn't there before...very smooth.IDK if it's something just quirky with the 14R engine...or the way I throttle her..BUT..the stock config of the fueling and such I always felt like it just didn't quite fuel smoothly when getting down the rpm range,like into 2nd to first.That's gone.I'm very pleased C.What was flashed before...was a top flash...for sure.She's even MORE of all the good stuff that was there.Thanks My Man...you really got the Exhaust and output matched up...she's WAY cool.I'm very happy with it.;)

You know how the literbikes...the gixxers and such,when they downshift like coming up to a light,or shifting for a corner and lowering their RPMs...how their motors sound...stable...instant.This is how mine is doing now.Very nice.

This update definitely has enhanced my fun factor.Thanks again;)

* Last updated by: Grn14 on 11/5/2014 @ 8:46 AM *

Well, this thread is dead without hub.

I guess we just have to wait for information at this point.

Also I don't care for the looks of the H2. When I first got my 14 I didn't think it was the best looking bike, but I didn't think it was as ugly as I do the H2. H2 looks like it was designed based on a pacu.

You are welcome Grn! I'm really glad you like her!

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Yup...;)

What exactly will a flash benefit me between 6000 rpm and redline,I have felt the lower rpm benefits understand increased redline, no top speed limiter,but am curious about the 6000 to redline area

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Finally Got a 0174 ECU in my hands , pricey very pricey.. Damn gen 2 parts cost way more than the old Gen 1 parts ..It's a Clean unflashed low mile unit ..Got Cblasts Flash moved to the new ECU , all good , No starting problem , quick trip around the block and the bike feels smooth and crisp .. Thanks Rick for the help moving the flash to the ECU ( hour long phone call )The reason for doing it here with the woolich program was not to take a chance of damage or loss shipping it to Cblast and the ECU making a 6,000 mile trip. Plus I didn't want to bug Cblast , he already did me a big favor the first time and I just didn't want to impose on him again .. If no rain I will be hitting the track Thursday night .. Not great air but a little drier air than the last trip ..Someone here asked for me to test the Don flash first this time and that is what is going to happen .. 3 to 4 runs and switch to Cblasts and then 3 or 4 runs If time allows on Cblasts flash ..No changes to the bike other than the new ECU with the right part numbers ..Fingers crossed and knocking on wood for a good night of testing ..

Checked the DA for the track today and it was Density Altitude: 906 feet
Relative Density: 97.38 %
I hope the air Thursday will be pretty close to that ...906 is much better than last time at 1400 to 1500 feet ..

* Last updated by: Smokinzx14 on 11/12/2014 @ 3:16 PM *

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Thanks Rick for the help moving the flash to the ECU ( hour long phone call )

Lee your more than welcome. Now let's she what she can do.

Damn no test and tune Thursday night ....5 day race , no bikes ..Next test and tune on the 20th ..

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Bummer.

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After reading Wolfmans post ( ESCAPE FROM 1441 ) All testing is done ..I spent close to 1000.00 bucks out of my own pocket , new tire , new clutches , New ECU and the cost of trips to the track 80 bucks a trip ..All that just to read that I robbed the Cblast flash and made him look bad so I could sell P/C maps ..Clearly someone didn't read my report of the first testing ( wolf ) were Cs flash was in the front running Vs Dons flash and Brocks Map ..

I don't sell flashes , I don't sell maps ..The maps are free from Brock when you by a pipe , anyone that buys a pipe from me or Brock or any Brock dealer gets free mapping .. I don't flash ECUs for anyone , I tell them to call Don, Brocks, Ryan Schnitz , Romans or Cblast . I don't make maps , I run Brock map and Dons flash just as it was sent to me .. I make 0 dollars telling you who to call for a flash .. Ask the many members here that have got Brocks parts from me , I offer the best pricing and free and fast service on all Brocks parts ..I will continue to sell Brocks parts at a great price to members here , all you have to do is ask ..

I will not stand for someone telling lies about me ..No more testing of Cblast flash , sorry Cblast but wolfman put a stop to that ..It's not your fault Cblast you did a good job just to have wolfman screw it up for everyone else.. It's to bad because Cblast I really enjoyed our phone calls and talking speed and bikes ..I have already removed all Cblast files from my woolich program and cleaned the ECU out .. No worries Cblast Nobody will ever get a copy of your Flash from me because I no longer have it . You did right by me and I will do right by you ..

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Wolfy, your New Suit is ready for pickup Didn't I say to step away from this one?

Signed,

NOLTT

P.S.
Thanks Cblast. Thanks, "Hand" for that quick test. Showed me enough thinking of my half baked T-Table theory.

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After reading Wolfmans post ( ESCAPE FROM 1441 ) All testing is done

Why would you worry about this? I just read it. Some of the dumbest shit I've ever read in my life. Besides, you already have the flash! Stealing a flash? Cracking the ECU to get the flash out? HAHA sounds like the stuff from morons. All anyone would need is WRT to "steal" any flash, Cblast or otherwise. Cblast uses WRT. I believe WRT even claims to be able to remove whatever protections some flashers put on their flashed ECU.

So the plan here was to spend $1000 on parts and to go run to make the cblast flash actually look bad. Then, actually steal the fuel map section which is just downloadable and editable using WRT software, or ANY software capable of accessing that memory area of the ECU. Then market the stolen flash as their own! AHAHHAHAH!!!!

If someone wanted to "steal" Cblast flash at most they'd have to give a friend an ECU to send to Cblast. Hell, I'm guesing if whoever just ordered the flash from Cblast, he'd probably do it anyway! Get it back and examine what was done to it. $400 for C's flash, and if they don't already have WRT software $400 for it (connectors would probably work for exisisting software).

A business model based on secrecy is doomed to fail. A business model based on innovation is setup to succeed.

Here's hoping that somehow I get mixed up with all the secret spy stuff for writing this.

Thank you Hub .. Wolfman can't hurt me , I got 40+ years of a great reputation in the racing world ..What is sad and I didn't want to see happen was how Cblast and Nels go dragged into this drama ..Based on my first testing Cblast/Nels flash was in the front of this horse race . The flash I believe once tested again would have come out on top ..That means for some guys no P/C to buy .. Plug and play power at a good price ..Smoking bottom end and mid range power that every street rider would love ..Nels and Cblast went way past where Don and the others stopped with ECU tuning ..Wolfman has done them a great disservice to Cblast and Nels as well as the members here with his rants and conspiracy theories ..Not something I would think I would see from a school teacher ..

* Last updated by: Smokinzx14 on 11/13/2014 @ 5:27 PM *

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Do you not understand you stopping testing because of this actually adds to the drama, not negate it?

It's hilarious you're letting internet rumors bother you, especially after 40 years in the business.

When Cblast tells me you're stealing his flash, it'll be official. Other than that, just a big pile of over dramatized bullshit.

So come on, no one that matters has called you a thief. As I already said, it's too late anyway and was too late the first time Cblast flashed an ECU that could fall into a competitor's hands.

Don't let the little internet drama people win this. You giving up for them is giving them the win. These little pea-brained fuck knobs know they can have some influence, where as in reality they have none. Is this what you want to perpetuate?

Wolfman,

I'd laugh my ass off if you were held liable for defamation!!!

That would be ROFLSMP hilarious!!

Wolfman thank you for that ... Your being ban went this way at least what I saw .. Your first post was fine but was in the wrong place ..I told you where you could post it ( off topic thread ) .. What you did next was to post it in the wrong place again in ( new members intros ) I was willing at that time to let that slide .. Then you PM me and told me you didn't like our site and the way we run it .. Ok I can fix that real quick and I ban you .. Keep in mind I had 15 to 20 PMs asking me to toss you because you would be nothing but trouble ..Our members are members here also and they know you and what you post here .. Then you came back as wolfman2 and went after Wee for no reason ..Wee had nothing to do with it other than letting me know you were here ..So I asked Mike my IT guy to ban your IP address if it shows up again ..Even a different IP address we can track where it came from ..I have no problem removing the ban on you if you just play nice .. No attacks on any members , post in the right place and stay on topic ..If you want to rant do so but put it in the right place ( off topic ) ..We have no real rules just use your head before you post .. Pretty simple ..

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VicThing any testing would be clouded by what wolfman has already posted .. If it works out that C's flash was slower in my testing ( it could happen ) Everybody would say I did it to blow C's flash out of the water and make him look bad .. That would not be a help to anyone .. It's not fair to Nels or Cblast ..I would say it would be best to have someone else do the testing that is not mixed up in this drama ..I have already said it a better flash because of the extra low to mid range power , just as Cblast and other that have the flash have said ..I would rather just leave it there and have the hole thing just go away ..I just don't want or need the drama ..

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Hey, Wolfy, I too was laughing my ass off. No matter. Won't know if the same numbers came out the same from a poor start code 39 to a no code faster start flash... And you wonder why I have that dildo fucking things up.

WOT a fucking mess to come back to.

Oh look, hot coco and cinny buns!

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wolfman I will unban you .. It will take a little time because I need to let other parties know so they will not put the ban back on without asking me ..Also keep in mind I was pretty upset and made some posts to that fact ..I will not remove them because they have already been read and replied to ..The members don't like being censored even if I'm censoring my own posts ..If you understand that and are ok with that let me know ..

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Smokin buddy, I have never had anything but respect for you and the integrity of your testing process. Really too bad that this could stop further testing. I am still willing to help any way I can. I have always been certain that your only goal was the honest pursuit of performance. Absolutely the same goal as I sir. I hope we can move forward and get you set up to run Cblasted again. And I certainly look forward to more horsepower discussions!

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Ok wolfman give me a little time to unban .. that part I can do , The IP part has to be done by my IT guy Mike ..

Cblast I will get in touch with you as soon as I cool off, I need a little time to unwind from all this .. Thanks ...Lee

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I have lifted the ban and let Wee know about it .. PM sent to Mike to lift the IP ban ..We have 100 or so IP bans in place from China and Russia spammer's .. So I don't know what IP is yours but Mike does and he will lift it as soon as he sees my PM....

* Last updated by: Smokinzx14 on 11/13/2014 @ 7:12 PM *

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... any testing would be clouded by what wolfman has already posted ...

Doubt it. He is not comprehending what was is trying to be accomplished.

Everybody would say I did it to blow C's flash out of the water and make him look bad ...

I doubt it. The numbers are going to show a constancy so where is the sandbagging?

It's not fair to Nels or Cblast ...

I agree. Wolfy bit below the belt and now when those two talk to each other, they speak in a high pitch sound.

I would say it would be best to have someone else do the testing that is not mixed up in this drama

I agree. Mav?... Care to break the 3.10?

I have already said it's a better flash because of the extra low to mid range power

So bottom line the flash hooks the grunt and signs off in the shorter foot, but the flash/pig pulls another set of numbers somewhere else. And the final number at the end is all even @ 3.10.

I would rather just leave it there and have the hole thing just go away ..I just don't want or need the drama

I don't blame you, nor Wolfy. Scroll the pages back. I repeat: if no codes that's the tune why go farther. So if it had an 8.3 in it, it would have to hit high 4's or low 5's no matter conditions. It's going to hang in the grunt is my frequency think. And I'm done with this one.

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