Thanks Smoke!

What up Hubs!

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Ps hubs we all know what's at stake here!

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I will step in and do a back to back ECU test. But as Lee and Sebastian knows there are an infinite number of variables involved with a stock wheelbase setup. Increased low to mid means relearning the launch vs. pin it to the stop on a long bike. I'm in the loop more than you guys know, but I still use the PCV as a fuel kill for my shifter. I currently don't have a way to do a piggy VS. non piggy back to back battle. This alone has been my reason for silence in this matter. I can't move away from the piggy without leaving my button shifting behind. An Annitori with a strain sensor should work seamlessly with my current configuration and allow me to unplug the PIGGY.

I thought Mav was already running a C flash?

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Smoke

Thank you for addressing my comments. I appreciate your honesty and respect your decision.

I am Wolf. I said BACK to BACK.

AND.... I also said that I'm not truly piggy back free and therefore can't fly that Seb and Nels banner at full mast just yet.

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Glad yer back Hub....shall I drop by next year with my new toy?(no...I don't mean DILDO;) )

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Mav, ahhh roger, got it!

And Green, come on up this way with the big H?
Hey answer a rumour for us Cannucks, is the msrp us 28000?
Ride on...

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Wolf- I like you, I think of you as a friend even though we've never met. But for some reason you seem to end up in the middle of most of the bullshit that goes on. You get fired up and babble on about shit then you apologize, over and over again. Most of the time it doesn't make any difference but this time is different, this testing is or now was the most interesting thing that has been on this forum in quite a while. Hopefully this will blow over and Lee and Cblast can get back to business. I feel like we're little kids and when one kid fucks up we all get punished. Oh well I see your trying to make it right, with any luck you'll be successful.

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"Hey answer a rumour for us Cannucks, is the msrp us 28000?"...No...not 28K IN THE US.

25K.....that's the 'suggested' retail price...IN THE US....the H2R is quite a bit higher...

Lots are siteing the price as being exhorbitant.They say...'just turbo your 14....and there ya are"...NO....there ya AREN'T.This bike isn't JUST about a supercharger(which powers up differently than a turbo anyway)(you knew that)...No 14 will ever perform like this new bike...it just can't.It's design won't let it.It's not a replacement for a 14....it's completely different platform with a totally different goal.I know...how the fuck would I know?...truth is...I don't.But I can read...and the building of this new bike isn't bullshit to Kawasaki.It's the real deal.All in.Full on in your face new.Not just revamped or warmed over.It isn't the zx10R engine redux...it's a totally new package of everything.From aeros to electrics to trans performance to frame.EVERYTHING.

But this post in particular should really be in the H2 section...I don't intend or want to jack C's thread here..so I'll say no more.

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" Unlike my boy Hubs, I know when to stop."
" I will as hub said, sit this one out. "

less than an hour later

"I thought Mav was already running a C flash?"

I guess some people have way too much time on their hands, and no idea how to find something constructive to do.

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Wolf- You get fired up and babble on... Most of the time it doesn't make any difference but this time is different, this testing is or now was the most interesting thing that has been on this forum in quite a while.

Well, this thread is dead without hub.

I'm not saying this, Wolfy, they are saying it. Park it on this one. Park that ego, Coach. Spend more time involved correcting your student's papers. You are not at this level. So shut up with the apology that meanshit, and what respect to the members, dude? Say nothing. Let Smoke cool off. Give the members a break from your shit.

Here is the DBrief:
YOu are at Clown Level is YOU!!!

Chinese philosopher:
'No investigation, no right to speak'

Signed,

You, YOu run to the mailbox runner plug-it-in plug-it-in is everyone already knows you know how it runs seat of the pants. Show us the numbers or shut up.

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Besides, you already have the flash! Stealing a flash?

You, like Clown Level, are under that same tent.

All anyone would need is WRT to "steal" any flash, Cblast or otherwise. Cblast uses WRT.

You still don't get it and you are answering your own questions?

So the plan here was to spend $1000 on parts and to go run to make the cblast flash actually look bad.

Vic, couldn't Smoke buy the flash for less and use the tire that was on the bike and come out with the same numbers more or less, yes or no. He's looking for any little thing that would crack into the .3's. Why would... Oh forget it.

Then, actually steal the fuel map section which is just downloadable and editable using WRT software, or ANY software capable of accessing that memory area of the ECU. Then market the stolen flash as their own!

What is going on here. The ECU's end up even... Forget this one too.

If someone wanted to "steal" Cblast flash at most they'd have to give a friend an ECU to send to Cblast.

Again, Vic, look at how C showed his maps. You can read a dyno chart, right? No you can't. You didn't see you take a stock WRT, throw an AFR at it and now you know the base AFR numbers, right? Match C's AFR, but not really. All they did was drag the AFR to that dotted line. So even C showed he's not hiding anything so why steal it, if the flash there is to see anyway. No matter how you look a it, it was not impressive enough for a .3. Hanging in the 5's did not make or come close to the 'chase number.'

A business model based on secrecy is doomed to fail. A business model based on innovation is setup to succeed.

There are no secrets in racing. If you only knew how simple they turn out to be. And a business model like Coke and their recipe is based on secrecy and it came out of your mouth was the quote, right?

Here's hoping that somehow I get mixed up with all the secret spy stuff for writing this

You sure are mixed up. Lets keep this a secret and tell me your inseam length so I can send you a clown fitting, or try on wolfy's suit so I can get an idea.

FFS, D is for dumbrief and here is yours.

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Hub, I guess that makes you "top banana"?

Mike, I'm thinking seagulls. Swoop in to fight over a french fry, fuck everything up, shit all over the place, and then just disappear.

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fat, this is more you flying in, shitting on the fries and flies off. So what did you contribute but make some lame comment. Can we wait for Smoke or Mav to come back with something? Fuck the thread up all you want while we are waiting. Fucking mailbox posters! Show me your AFR meter. Yeah, I didn't think so.

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Wow, very saddened by what I'm reading here. More to the point, upset how I found out. That was a bit upsetting.

Going forward, Just when I think there is never going to be any hope that the masses can work together for the greater good, you guys work it out. Shocker, my bad for not giving enough credit.
I do admit,this shit hurts my Brain

So where are we with this ? Myself, I have a need to know the science of it all. For Some, Your obsessions end in the 1/4 mile #'s. Mine are on the computer screen. This flash compared to All Others has one different approach. The need to know if that approach is any faster is important to me and hopefully all of us.

Lee, lets play. Letting BS get the way is good for no one. C'Mon what if ?

This forum has seen some ups and downs lately. This internet drama is getting to be boring.

First in this thread Hub was making a bunch of idiotic baseless assumptions like most of the time. So there was all this drama that went on for what the first 20 pages. Keep in mind, I don't read Hub's ramblings, but I do read everyone else's posts so I could see hub was acting like a baby.

Then hub does whatever to get banned. People start to feel sorry for him, beg for him to be unbanned. So he gets unbanned. But then hub is all butthurt, so people beg him to come back...and he does (I see he's posting). Yay you all get to enjoy him being back, being assured he's always right about everything 100% of the time always, even when he's actually wrong or doesn't know the answers 50% of the time but that doesn't matter. Three cheers for overblown egos. Three cheers for being able to read a service manual.


NOT

Then there's all this drama over the bullshit about testing, by far and above the most interesting thing to happen here. And now there's a bunch of apologizing, begging, and other bullshit.

Almost makes me want to patch things up with hub...

NOT

fat, this is more you flying in, shitting on the fries and flies off. So what did you contribute but make some lame comment. Can we wait for Smoke or Mav to come back with something? Fuck the thread up all you want while we are waiting. Fucking mailbox posters! Show me your AFR meter. Yeah, I didn't think so.

Yeah, because Hubanese is just so fucking cool. Your delusional. You have fucked this thread up and countless others with your regurgitated diarrhea. You make ill informed comment after comment after comment. Then you try to correct Vic. That shit seriously looks like a conversation your having with yourself. I'm just tired of your shit, your insane.

No matter how you look a it, it was not impressive enough for a .3. Hanging in the 5's did not make or come close to the chase number.

The fucking ecu/pig that set 8.42, didn't even run 8.42. You have to compare for that day, how many times must you be told certain things?

Don't you worry about my AFR meter, AFR is perfect, thank you.

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this fucken sucks,was really looking forward to the results,how about a 3rd party holding the ECU's so the rider wouldn't know which is what.shouldnt be necessary but one bad apple spoils the bunch

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"how about a 3rd party holding the ECU's so the rider wouldn't know which is what"...pretty good idea;)Jeez...trusting...not trusting...c'mon ya'll....go ride or somethinLOL!!!.

Blind testing is not a bad idea. We could even throw a stock ECU in the mix just to show how terribly gimped the low to mid is from the factory with the safety mode and secondary engagement.

Yay you all get to enjoy him being back, being assured he's always right about everything 100% of the time always, even when he's actually wrong or doesn't know the answers 50% of the time but that doesn't matter. Three cheers for overblown egos. Three cheers for being able to read a service manual.

Vic, I ASSociate that 'is this normal' BigDog thread as generic as this thread here. There are some who post and tell the guy that it is Not Normal. I asked them to bring in their science: if I can see it from here. It's the exact same thing with this flashit. I can't help you if you can't see it and Romes does. So I look at some of you as posting 'this is NOT normal' but when I ask you to bring in the science = Silence. And that's why every time I bring that book up, I shove the page up your ass so you can read it better, because I ASSume your eyes are up there somewhere?

Now here is where I close your buddy's mouth shut is the effervescing silence. Can either of you complain about the science or answer the science? I didn't think so. I have no clue about, but I have enough clues like that hot header. At least I can see it from here like I could could read the red hand on that throttle whipping: and you idiots are telling the guy different is how I see it. Any post here bring in science, short of Smoke's short debrief? The drama is you looking all bigdog and that is not my fault is it. So, did you bring in the science to back up the current conversation? I let that thread answer that for me as is the same deja vu all over again with this thread.

The fucking ecu/pig that set 8.42, didn't even run 8.42. You have to compare for that day, how many times must you be told certain things?

Could you please explain the 3.10=3.10 number being the same at the end of the day? It's in the book but you don't see it is one more page shoved up your ass. The day was compared and if you don't see it in the numbers, I can't help you and your AFR, guy.

It's the same thread all over again, bigdog. You are one of those classic posters that are ass clueless. Vic's or your science is not about to come forward as in the both of you are posting a, 'not normal' in the laugh of it. I didn't need the reality check was more to check yours instead was that goof. No book up your ass this time. But I would more shove one of those pipes up your ass and burn it into your brain: who to listen to at this point, you or the book?

And you still don't get it! Now, no excuses. You both look like bd members and there are only two posts that will happen... 1) you complain and bring no science. 2) you bring in the science. 3)No post but Silence.

And that is why there are pages after pages of no science of explaining that 3.10 number.

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It wont be truely blind. The bike sounds different, smells different, revs different with the cblast than the pcv combo. You will know right away which one is on the bike.

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What's the point of a blind taste test? Give Lee the flash, he'll run his best and that's that.
Even that is not 100% accurate, but close as you guys will get to an answer.

"You will know right away which one is on the bike"...well...this IS true..for someone whose already run both.

"Give Lee the flash, he'll run his best and that's that"...this IS true as well.

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