17-53... Glad someone else has the same seen your page? I had a moment there about the 'Miscellaneous' you looking for the oil levels. No power means the crank is running thru more oil than normal slowing down the engine. You were too consistent with the level all those miles and then up till now?

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At least ya didn't fill er up with DIESEL!I friggin did that one night...a long while back when I still had my Harley Ultra.Fucker ranLOL!IDK HOW it did...but it did...like shit...well...kinda hard to tell it was runnin like shit...you know what I mean;)I figured it out though when she was bleedin RED oil outa the air filter cover....the next day.And yeah...I was somewhat enebrieated that night.Fortunate I made it home really.

Last weekend I dumped hot oil out, left the filter on, poured in 4 qts looked at the window saw it was at the top of the glass above the markings. Left it anyway. It was highest I had ever filled it. All the other times I kept it between the markings.

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Exactly what I did....several thousand miles ago on this fill/change.It's up above the top line...and stayin there....so she's not burnin any anyhow;)Always a silver lining somewhereLOL!!!

* Last updated by: Grn14 on 6/16/2013 @ 11:54 PM *

The motor was running fine yet it wasn't. Hard to explain, it just vibrated like a son of a bitch. Thought I was riding a Harley for a while.

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Shit, I've loaded delo in the bike. My routine is roll backwards [out the driveway] with bike in gear so I have a brake. The bike used to roll back fine until that delo sort of needed some breaking in. I'd say about 3 times down the drive and all of a sudden the oil is now thinned out and rolls backwards normal again.

Which brings this to conclude it is not your oil [weight] when about a tank and a half will thin that delo out if not two tanks. And this shit is thick like the trans could not shift any butter when fresh oil is in there. Just so you know and you probably know it shifts kind of nice when the oils changed.

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And if you had it overfilled it would pump out into the closed loop of the ram chamber. That's why you can run any grade gas in a harley. They built those for camel toes. 20k vibrator with bags to hold the tampons and lime-aid.

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Ya...I got rid of it...nice bike...but...just not for me.It was a looker though.Custom hand painted...stereo...all the goodies.Well nigh 900 lbs at least...that wasn't so kool;)Traded her in for my zx12R.WHAT a difference(I'm happy to say).Never looked back.

Hub...he didn't say he poured in REGULARLOL!!YOU said that.He only said 'maybe bad gas"....LOL!!!

"Fuck, I don't know.

You know how this evolves? I don't give a shit what brand or grade. Did he fill up with a bad batch yes or no? Did the bike blow up yes or no? Is the bike fine with lets guess... What did he change? The oil! So now the bike runs fine, lets go back for more bad gas.

You're right you don't know, you reach around, clowntown.

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"I don't give a shit what brand or grade. Did he fill up with a bad batch yes or no?"...ugh...well...honestly...he doesn't know.I don't.And you don't.Changing the oil may not have had ANY affect on his now sweet running bike.Tis a mystery!

And BTW...who in their right mind puts DELO in there bike?Only you Hub...only you .

"You know how this evolves?"...yup...I do.And you ALWAYS bite right into it;)You're as predictable as...humm...let me see....the "phantom Breakin Vibration Experience"....two 14R's now Hubster....my 2012,and my 2013.BOTH had the PBVE....LOL!

* Last updated by: Grn14 on 6/17/2013 @ 12:25 AM *

Changing the oil may not have had ANY affect on his now sweet running bike.Tis a mystery!

Speaking about pee dick table is go make a sandwich. Go and wonder why you shit? It must be the oil change you chump.

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"I'd say about 3 times down the drive and all of a sudden the oil is now thinned out and rolls backwards normal again"...this is of course,Kawasaki engine oil...yes?I must be doing something wrong...my bike backs up muy perfecto every timeLOL!Oh shit...I know what it is...why,I'm backing up in Neutral.What a dumbass I am;)

and this is your scientific conclusion...good work.Now just WHO would have EVER come up with that test and finding?.Only you einstien...only youLOL!!!!That's like 'starting the bike in gear every stop" so you won't get the 'clunk'...Bravo!We should all be coasting to the stop with the bike turned off and clutch held in...then restarting immediately before takeoff!Awesome.Glad you thought of that;)

And speaking of oil...lets all start our cold engines in first gear and immediately 'take off' so we avoid that nuetral to first shift....nevermind about the warning to allow the engine oil to circulate for a few minutes for the engine's sake.OR 70 psi for highway drivingLOL!!!

* Last updated by: Grn14 on 6/17/2013 @ 1:17 AM *

"Viscosity matters! Whether its grease, engine oil, or gear lubricant, if your lubricant is too thick, fuel economy goes down and excessive strain is put on your components. If your lubricant is too thin, it will not offer the protection you need. Always use the proper lubricant for the application. Follow your OEM’s recommendations"...DELO???Hello;).How about that clutch there...with that delo doing it's fine job of saving the environment?

* Last updated by: Grn14 on 6/17/2013 @ 1:35 AM *

Bravo!We should all be coasting to the stop with the bike turned off and clutch held in...then restarting immediately before takeoff!Awesome.Glad you thought of that;)

Yep. I watch dummies like you slam the bike in gear, complain about it, do nothing about it like see me have a clunk issue? See me wear out the hours sitting at lights going nowhere with the engine running? And an idiot like you would come to the conclusion the starter motor is going to burn out and you see me rebuilding my bikes that I've been doing this way before the 14 came out? Hello? You do not have enough experience to yap but go right ahead. Give you BACK some of your own medicine. Ya dumbshit!

And speaking of oil...lets all start our cold engines in first gear and immediately 'take off' so we avoid that nuetral to first shift

That was the shell answerman a long time ago. Remember when he said to take off slow so the metal expands without the piston growing faster than the cylinder wall? That's it in a nut 'shell' LOL

...nevermind about the warning to allow the engine oil to circulate for a few minutes for the engine's sake.OR 70 psi for highway drivingLOL!!!

What an asshole. Did the warning light go out? Look, oil pressure goes something like diss. The fluid keeps moving out the monitor. The oil then is so backed up against the wall from the continuous push, the oil light goes out and now we need more pressure do we? No. The oil pushes the face in and lights out!

* Last updated by: Hub on 6/17/2013 @ 7:02 AM *

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"Viscosity matters!

Only in cold/hot conditions does it matter.

If your lubricant is too thin, it will not offer the protection you need.

How thin can an oil film cover a part? I know the answer and it was way back in the 40's they discovered that is the army core of engineers?

Always use the proper lubricant for the application. Follow your OEM’s recommendations"...DELO???Hello;).How about that clutch there...with that delo doing it's fine job of saving the environment?

You follow book. I wind up with a high compression bike and what are you doing wrong having a lower compression? Must have followed book.

And you are not even close to a smooth running bike you closed looped clown.

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"What an asshole. Did the warning light go out?"...yes.Does that mean it's nicely circulating inside the motor?No.;)

"what are you doing wrong having a lower compression?"..And just how do 'we' know I had any lower compression than anyone else?Sayin a thing aint the same thing as Doin a thing...in fact...mine may have been higher than yours...

"And you are not even close to a smooth running bike"...I'm gonna have to start addressin ya as "Merlin"...

* Last updated by: Grn14 on 6/17/2013 @ 10:03 AM *

Who got sucked in this time? LOL

There are different kinds of lube, clowny;
1. Splash = The instant the crank/trans spins = Windmill churning is a splash effect!
2. Pressure = How fast does the light go offandango? In an instant. Oil is now at all parts or pressure loss happens.
3. Splash = When the crank is pressurized, the oil out the bearings is called 'fling' up the piston's pin and cylinder wall: becomes a 3rd type lube in splash [cooling] form.

If it does not circulate within seconds = BOOM! Noise! Smoke! DOA!

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"I've seen racing setups a lot sloppier"...hmmmm...like this you mean?.

Besides..the whole 'idea' that the motor would run without circulation is mute.It won't.Not these.It won't start until the oil is moving in there.Try it next time you change your oil.

* Last updated by: Grn14 on 6/17/2013 @ 10:16 AM *

...in fact...mine may have been higher than yours..

The way you neglect bikes. Did you change air cleaners as per book? No. Did you blow it out with air? Probably. Did you push more micron thru that blowing process? Most likely yes as opposed to just leaving it alone, yes.

And I gauge how we pull air cleaners out. Pull yours out in 30K and it looks brand new. But yours has received a direct hit and they pack up with... Ah what do you know? You never pulled yours out to even... Can you spellz Knee G-l-e-c-t?

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Can you see the backasswords Y and the X makes the throttle open real he Z?

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" Did you blow it out with air? Probably. Did you push more micron thru that blowing process? Most likely yes as opposed to just leaving it alone, yes."..I do believe it was YOU who stated.."you should clean the rail in there to get all that debris from falling in when you reinstall"...something like that.Yes...it WAS you who said that...;)

"The way you neglect bikes".
"Y and the X makes the throttle open real he Z?"...uh huh...nice rust-o-leeeum inthere....it better have a gargantuan spring setup like you've gotLOL!

* Last updated by: Grn14 on 6/17/2013 @ 10:24 AM *

This has been fun...but...as a professional crash dummy,it's time for me to get to workLOL!"They make em,I break em;)"C-ya Hubster!

* Last updated by: Grn14 on 6/17/2013 @ 10:38 AM *

GRN14: Just finished reading the last two pages and.......GRN14.....beware....beware....some of your posts read like they were written by HUBSTER !!!!! Are you okay??? Are you drunk??? Are you on drugs??? Have you slipped and hit your head??? There must be a reason for this !!!!!

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Hey Grn, I put the green pinstripe on the wheels. They don't quite match the green on the bike but it really makes the green accents on the bike POP out at ya.

* Last updated by: nasty on 6/17/2013 @ 1:21 PM *

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Come give Uncle Hub a hug before you head off to (cough) work(?)

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