Does anyone know the difference between the GO Pro outdoor and the GO Pro motosport?
Does the outdoor version lack some mounting hardware necessary for a motorcycle mount?
I'm asking because I can get the outdoor version $45 cheaper.
Created on: 03/25/12 01:58 AM
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dragking
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GO PRO
03/25/12 1:58 AM
Does anyone know the difference between the GO Pro outdoor and the GO Pro motosport?
Does the outdoor version lack some mounting hardware necessary for a motorcycle mount?
I'm asking because I can get the outdoor version $45 cheaper.
Hub
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KoflaOlivieri
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RE: GO PRO
03/25/12 5:14 AM
Does anyone know the difference between the GO Pro outdoor and the GO Pro motosport?
Just like Hub said, according to this article, the only difference is the mounts that come in the package.
dragking
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RE: GO PRO
03/25/12 8:22 PM
I'd step up to the go2.
KoflaOlivieri
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dragking
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RE: GO PRO
03/26/12 10:58 PM
The outdoor doesn't include the $30 suction cup! My 15% discount would be worthless, especially when you add taxes, better go with superbikesupply through the zx-10R net forum and get the motosport version!
Jeff01ss
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dragking
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RE: GO PRO
03/27/12 6:23 PM
How to you mount it for front road view. I also saw you had it in the seat cowl for your track day. Do you just use the adhesive stuff they come with?
Jeff01ss
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RE: GO PRO
03/27/12 10:49 PM
Yeah, just the sticky mounts. They come right off with a little heat, although they are trash then. I just leave mounts stuck in a few places on each of my bikes and helmets. I bought an extra 5 arched and 5 flat sticky mounts off of amazon.
dragking
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RE: GO PRO
03/27/12 11:31 PM
Thanks for the info Jef!
dragking
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RE: GO PRO
03/28/12 2:40 PM
Screw it, I'm going with The Drift HD! Got me a deal for $229 and it has a remote that you can mount anywhere, including your wrist. The contour sound quality isn't good IMO... judge for yourself:
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Grn14
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RE: GO PRO
03/28/12 10:58 PM
Looks very nice...HOWEVER..and this may not matter to some...but that mount deal....it only allows the cam to sit one way....flat as it were.What are you gonna do IF you need to mount that foot on an angle,say,angled up or down?There's no way to keep the camera pointing in the horizontal that you would need to have.Looks great though...maybe they have mounts for it to do what I mentioned...like the gopro?Any angle possible with that one.Even upside down(which plays back rightside up).
Just an aside here...that gopro foot adhesive tape...it can be reused several times....just have to store it out of the dust and such...and go real slow when removing.With a hairdyer if possible.Same with mounting.Heat up the adhesive and the mount spot...stick on there...hold firmly for about 30 seconds...it'll hold alright.
That remote is sweet though....I'm hoping GoPro will follow suit and make an accessory like that for the HD Hero 2 .I wrote em an e-mail a while back suggesting just that...now...Drift has trumped em.
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Rook
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RE: GO PRO
03/28/12 11:25 PM
Does the outdoor version lack some mounting hardware necessary for a motorcycle mount?
The motorsport comes with self-adhesive mounts.
All I really need is the suction cup and an extension which allows both dasboard and front scenery view!
for the GoPro that is all I have used so far. Sticks tank, tail side, lower if you dare.
Good luck with the Drift.
We sure have enough Camera threads going now. Three at last count. I can't even find Sctjkyl's any more. Forgot where it was- LOL. Grn has one in Accessories.
We should have a way to consolidate all of this info.
dragking
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RE: GO PRO
03/29/12 1:04 AM
The contour HD and go pro hero 1 are replaced.
I think you should compare it to contoure roam and go pro hero 2.
What are you gonna do IF you need to mount that foot on an angle,say,angled up or down?
I like the look and the shape, the video and audio quality seem pretty good. I'm sure it would be fine but I don't trust any adhesive mounts on my lowers at 160 mph (on a track of course). Even on the nose of the bike... at those speed you have the ram air, 180 + hp vacuum trying to suck it in and the front wind trying to wipe it clean... I will be getting a suction cup ( also $30) for the drift but it'll still be $40 cheaper than the GO PRO 2 without a suction cup! Honestly, I have a feeling about the GOPRO 2 being better but for $229, I'm willing to try the Drift!
We sure have enough Camera threads going now. Three at last count. I can't even find Sctjkyl's any more. Forgot where it was- LOL. Grn has one in Accessories.
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Grn14
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RE: GO PRO
03/29/12 1:54 AM
"It can be angled and the lens can rotate so regardless of the position you get a proper picture".....That lens moves 300 degrees AROUND a single axis.If that single axis is pointing downward...turning the lens is only going to give you a picture....pointing down.If it's sitting horizontal...the axis...then you're going to get a picture of the horizontal....at whatever degree you turn that lens.It is NOT as versatile as the GoPro mounting systems.GoPro...you can have a straight horizontal view...even if the foot is on an angle.
"I have a feeling about the GOPRO 2 being better"...then go with that.Your instincts are telling you something.
If they had made some sort of ball mount deal to fit on the mounting part of that camera...then yeah,you could get a horizontal with the mount facing any angle...but they didn't.They have the mount pivot attaching by bolt flush with the camera side body part.TWO parallel planes that cannot move off the parallel.(the bolt holding it in there,and the flat surface of the body and foot).I'm quite sure they're going to come up with something that will allow that cam to be set for any angle....But the way it is right now....nope.If you want a straight forward picture...that camera can only be placed on a bodypart corresponding to the axis of the lens....which would have to be ....horizontal for a forward straight on video.The placement of the foot into the camera body will not allow the rearmost portion of the cam to clear anything that may be extending beyond that rear part,i.e...a windscreen surface.Or something similar unless the cam is following the surface angle.Which in most cases on a sportbike...is virtually curved almost everywhere.Very few flat horizontal/vertical areas at all(90 degree angles anyway)...maybe the side of the fairing,or the gas cap.But that's about it.You still have to use the adhesive foot mount....which you say you don't trust.
I would say...that drift looks heavier than the GoPro...so if you are worried about that camera coming loose at speed...even using the "suction cup' deal...more weight means...more centrifugal mass moving with wind gusts and such.It may not seem like much...but it MAY be in regards to that camera and that suction cup deal.He said "helmet mount"...but I think he may have been referring to a bicycle,or an MX bike(speeds).NOT a fast azz sportbike.I could be wrong of course.
I had my 07 fitted with that GoPro with an adhesive foot to my nose faring...just below the windscreen tip.I folmed PLENTY with it there...at top speed several times.It never even budged.Camera picture quality was perfectly smooth...no vibs at all.You can trust that 3M adhesive on there...it isn't going anywhere.
About the ONLY place you'll get a straight shot with that camera mount the way it is...is on the tail cowl.That is...if you want a vid down the centerline of your motorcycle.Otherwise...your stuck mounting it off center in some way...which 'could' get annoying watching.
The Gopro has an extensive number of angles and ways to mount their cams in almost any area of the bike.
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scottjkyl
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RE: GO PRO
03/29/12 4:39 AM
i can bout my contour just about any where on the bike ...curved or not with the suction cup
If they had made some sort of ball mount deal to fit on the mounting part of that camera...then yeah,you could get a horizontal with the mount facing any angle...but they didn't.They have the mount pivot attaching by bolt flush with the camera side body part.TWO parallel planes that cannot move off the parallel.(the bolt holding it in there,and the flat surface of the body and foot).I'm quite sure they're going to come up with something that will allow that cam to be set for any angle....But the way it is right now....nope.If you want a straight forward picture...that camera can only be placed on a bodypart corresponding to the axis of the lens....which would have to be ....horizontal for a forward straight on video.The placement of the foot into the camera body will not allow the rearmost portion of the cam to clear anything that may be extending beyond that rear part,i.e...a windscreen surface.Or something similar unless the cam is following the surface angle.Which in most cases on a sportbike...is virtually curved almost everywhere.Very few flat horizontal/vertical areas at all(90 degree angles anyway)...maybe the side of the fairing,or the gas cap.But that's about it.You still have to use the adhesive foot mount....which you say you don't trust.
grn, which cam are you talking about here? Cause the Contour mount is very versatile and is a ball mount
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Grn14
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scottjkyl
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RE: GO PRO
03/29/12 5:29 AM
hey just looked at that drift ...that thing is sick, love the onboard screen and remote. damn wished that would of been out when i bought the contour lol
Jeff01ss
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RE: GO PRO
03/29/12 11:01 AM
The gopro mounts DO NOT need to be heated to stick, nor held for 30 seconds! The surface just needs to be cleaned with windex or what not.
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Grn14
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Jeff01ss
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RE: GO PRO
03/29/12 2:09 PM
They stick again without heating them....I just don't trust them! They are CHEAP to replace whereas the camera itself isn't! Holding them for 30 seconds is a waist of about 29 seconds and will in no way help them stick if you remove them. But, you are the expert who can't even import the videos into windows movie maker.....just saying!
Grn14
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RE: GO PRO
03/29/12 2:50 PM
"the expert'.... I'll send ya a raw clip from my Gopro....you see if YOU can import it...how's that sound?...in case ya didn't know this ahead of time...that 3m adhesive on the GoPro mounts has a bonding property to it.It doesn't just 'stick on there'.If you're holding it for one second and then trying to get it to stay stuck with only that time frame...they will come lose.I can see how you 'wouldn't trust it' doing it that way.You might learn something new if ya don't go cuttin others down so fast.I'm no expert...experienced...yup...that I am.Got lots of good videos with those "used'ones you say are done with one application.Whatever....So go ahead and spend 20 bucks per bag....it's YOUR money afterall .
I wonder what ever happened to the phrase.."gee,I didn't know that"...must have gone extinct with the rest of us dinosaurs
BTW....the GoPro films in 264HD.Try importing that codec in(to) WMM.Just for your info here...I DID import the GoPro vids into my Movie Maker program.....AFTER they were converted to WMV format(using a separate non-windows program).You DO know what 264HD is don't you?....it's a format that WMM can not handle.It's the same compression that the Hero Motorsports 2 HD/Std def formats are compressed in on the SD card.WMM does not have the compression abilities to deal with the files.Nor can you download the codecs to do it into WMM.
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dragking
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RE: GO PRO
03/29/12 3:17 PM
@ Green: There is a vid on youtube... I'm a little bit dyslexic so I'm not sure what you were saying but if you tighten the mounting clip at an angle, the camera will be at an angle.
Also, I don't wanna dig it out but the guy was saying that even when mounted at an angle on his bicycle the pic came out straight. Beside, the selling point for me is the remote. That'll save a lot of editing. That camera came out at $369 "me" think and now I can get it for $229. Worth the risk IMO!
I would trust a suction cup anywhere on the bike... They put those on plane wings!!!! I was just talking about the stickies, which I think should be fine but I don't wanna take the risk.
@ Scott: yeah the looks and the remote are nice, also it looks more stealth than the GO PRO, especially when mounted on your helmet. Don't feel bad, the way they come out with bike accessories, it's not the last time you'll feel like upgrading. I got double and triple of most of my mc stuff!!! I was calculating the $$ my accessories and extra mc stuff cost me and had to stop... I was getting frustrated.
Your suction cup and set up looks cool, I hope the drift suction cup is that versatile. It looked exactly like the GO PRO's but I could be wrong.
But, you are the expert who can't even import the videos into windows movie maker.....just saying!
Come on guys, it's just a camera thread!
I'm locked and loaded on the drift, after all, all my mods came from learning from the mistakes of others and I feel bad for not trying the Lithium Moto battery. I'll test the drift for you guys.
Grn14
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RE: GO PRO
03/29/12 3:31 PM
I see what you're sayin about mounting that cam 'at an angle'...yes...then turning the lens to compensate for a horizontal view.I get that.But I don't see how you're gonna get that combo IF you can't get a non-curved surface at least as long as the camera body.Know what I mean?You can't mount that cam with a flat or even curved foot and get a horizontal view unless the camera is actually horizontal...that's considering if you ONLY want to stay in the centerline of the bike.If you attach that cam/foot to any other curved part(like the radius of the windscreen or fairing front(nose),if you are going to mount it off center...then yes,it will compensate by turning the lens...but the film will not appear in the center of the bike...it'll be off to the side somewhat.That's all I'm saying.I'll show you...here...this is a pic of the GoPro AFTER I remounted the center attachment point directly under the lens...you can see that a foot mount NOW will be able to be centered directly in the axis of the bike...and the film will appear directly at the centerpoint.Why this matters is because the foot mounts are curved...and some flat as well.You can't really get that flat mount to adhere securely to that radius of the nose or screen.But the curved one can now be attached directly under the lens....so instead of having the foot 'off to the side'..and trying to 'bend' the camera to the horizontal...it can now be 'fixed' horizontally because it's directly in the bike axis.Believe me..trying to get a center shot with that undermount position off center of the lens...it was a real pain.Your clearest quality is gonna come from the LEAST amount of 'arms' you have attached to the camera.If you can get a 'direct' mounting onto the foot without the extensions...that's the best way.
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